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Old 02-22-2019, 02:45 PM   #1
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2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

Hello gentlemen, I had a couple hands over the last few days where I felt like I may have been too nitty, perhaps even exploitable. Both hands were in 2/3/5.

Hand 1:

One was pretty standard so I won't go into it much detail. I 3! a guy on obvious tilt with AKo. The board ran out Qs8s4cQc: he 1/2 pot donked into me on the flop and continued with another 1/2 pot on the turn. Villian had paid me off earlier in the session when he turned 2nd pair into a bluff against my set, so he was super aggressive even before tilting. I suspect I should just call down with my high cards on this board if the river doesn't show a 9, T, J or spade, but I folded turn giving him credit for an 8 from the donk bet.

Hand 2:

Hero has AhJh.

UTG raises to $20. In this game it's a standard raise but often cuts off the top 3-5% of people's ranges as they'll typically open $25-$30.

Hero calls in MP; HJ, BU, BB call. Everyone is ~200bb effective. 5-way to the flop:

A72 rainbow, no heart.

Checks to Hero. Hero makes it $60 into $100. HJ folds, BU makes it $200, folds to Hero who calls. I just sat at table and have never seen BU before despite being a local reg. Turn:

A72T rainbow.

Hero checks, BU bets $340 ($500). Hero folds.

Thoughts: In hindsight, I think I should have 3! pre given my analysis of UTGs range and my position, but I had big suited cards and didn't mind it getting multiway which is pretty common here in single-raised pots.

The BU flop raise perplexed me a bit. I feel most of his combos of 77, 22, and A7 won't raise such an uncoordinated board. The A7 and A2 are probably limited to suited combos, so not many there either. I think his AK and AQs 3! preflop so I'm really losing just to a limited range of strong flopped hands and AQo. He appeared aggressive enough that he would raise the flop with a worse Ace, perhaps with the goal of isolating against the original PF raiser.

On the turn, he continues with a 2/3ish value-sized bet. I have to give more credit to the made flopped hands and the T puts me behind one of his main flop raising combos, ATo. Still, there are limited combos of AT here because an ATs was so ripe for a preflop squeeze.

Should I just call down here and pay off the better hands? I feel like a fold here against an aggressive unknown is too nitty and a CRAI is only getting called by better.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:55 PM   #2
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

Hand 1 is fine.

Hand 2 I like a 3bet, but flatting is OK. Personally, I fold to the flop raise. I don't think you are ahead of much. If he's extremely aggressive, I guess you can call him down, but I don't like it -- and you don't know him.

By 200bb, I assume you mean $1,000 (three blinds, not a straddle or $5 open)?
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:17 PM   #3
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

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By 200bb, I assume you mean $1,000 (three blinds, not a straddle or $5 open)?
Correct, $1k-ish deep, 3 blind game.
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Old 02-25-2019, 03:51 PM   #4
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

H1 is fine, you're not obligated to bluff-catch with all your bluff-catchers
H2 Readless I'm ok with a fold to the flop raise. Better spots out there.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:47 AM   #5
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

75% pot really isn’t a thing on a72 rainbow w aj
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Old 02-26-2019, 02:33 AM   #6
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

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75% pot really isnít a thing on a72 rainbow w aj
In many games it should be
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:22 PM   #7
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In many games it should be
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:07 PM   #8
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

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75% pot really isnít a thing on a72 rainbow w aj

Is there a way to even run a sim on a 5 way pot on the flop?
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Old 02-27-2019, 01:59 AM   #9
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

No but you can draw some conclusions about the way spots work and try to use that to improve your strategy
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:00 AM   #10
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

Let’s not let this debolve into another solvers don’t mean anything in live poker discussion please
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:54 AM   #11
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Re: 2/3/5 Am I Being Too Nitty?

I thot I was a nit til I read this post
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