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Best stat set up for PokerTracker 3 HUD? Best stat set up for PokerTracker 3 HUD?

11-09-2008 , 03:20 PM
I'd like to know what the best set up for PokerTracker 3 HUD would be for a Large MTT NLHE tourney.

ie what is the best stat information you may have on the table so you can instantly see what your opponent is playing like.

at the moment I have showing;

VP: Vountary put $ in Pot
PR: Preflop raise
AF: Agression Frequency
WSD: Won $ on show down
FFR: Fold to flop raise
FBBS: Fold to BB Steel

but what would be an improved way of reading your opponent?
11-09-2008 , 09:56 PM
I think it depends on what your playing style is. I'm currently trying to build the best HUD for my style, which is semi-tight/aggressive. I have the Call Preflop 3-bet % and Call flop continuation bet %, which are part of my betting style.

Anyone else have input? I'm curious as well
11-09-2008 , 11:21 PM
stats mean pretty much nothing in donkaments b/c game conditions are always changing. your fbbts stat for example, someone will fold almost 100% of their blinds in early stages, and obviously alot less later. So really that stat is hurting you more than helping you. if you must have stats i guess just vpip, pfr, ta and maaaaybe wtsd would be good. if you play tournies as your main game, i would just recommend taking detailed (color coded) notes for future use, rather than stats

Last edited by Vitamin11; 11-09-2008 at 11:26 PM.
11-09-2008 , 11:33 PM
also, if u put this somewhere where more ppl will see it, like mtt strat or somethin u will get more answers. pm a mod
11-10-2008 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mosaicAce
also, if u put this somewhere where more ppl will see it, like mtt strat or somethin u will get more answers. pm a mod
going into MTT strat now, but you have a point, I bought PT3 recently and it just doesn't seem to help in a MTT tourney, i think it is good for cash but i'm questioning the relevance for MTT.
11-10-2008 , 11:40 AM
Found this nice piece ontinternet any disagreements?
I'm pasting it all in my thread so I always have access to it. Seems pretty savvy.

Using Poker Tracker and PA HUD
It occurred to me recently that everyone advices you to use Poker tracker and PAHUD but no one tells you how.

I remember when I first started using them all these pretty numbers appeared on the screen telling me god knows what about the opposition.

Well I will go through a few of the main statistics and how I use them and would be really grateful if any other experienced users would share there thoughts and how they use to statistics to help them win.

PAHUD allows you to define exactly which numbers you see on screen through the layout manager but I will just cover the default numbers and how I use them.

Last edited by GiantRhino; 11-10-2008 at 11:45 AM.
11-10-2008 , 11:41 AM
Firstly the most important number you will see is VP$IP this is short for Voluntarily placed money in pot and gives an indication of how loose (or tight the player is.This will let you know whether you can even attempt to place this player on a hand, if the number is below 25 then the opponent has some idea of hand value preflop and if below 15 then they are very tight, you should be looking for players with VPIP of 40 or more if you really want to swim with the fish.
Be aware though that if a player has a high VPIP then they are very difficult to put on a hand and you will only make money of these players by consistently starting with good cards and showing down.
11-10-2008 , 11:42 AM
Next the PFR stands for Pre flop raise and is very useful when deciding whether to limp with speculative hands, that is if the players still to act behind you have a low number here then you can regard them as passive preflop and a limp has a high chance of not being raised.If someone has a high stat for PFR and for VPIP then you can consider them a LAG ( Loose aggressive ) and you should tighten up and showdown with premium hands.
11-10-2008 , 11:42 AM
Next we have The overall aggression figure. This is very useful as it lets you know how likely a player is to continue raising postflop, low figures here indicate weak tights and loose passives which are your prey at the tables.

Next we have how many hands played and this should not be taken lightly, if this figure too low then you cannot really rely on the other stats as you haven't seen enough hands to really rate them.

On top of that I also like to add the won at showdown figure to the screen, and I look for people with stats of 80+ as these people tend to be weak at the river, that is you can float them and bluff them at the river.
11-10-2008 , 11:44 AM
When looking at all these these figures we should perform a sort of somatyping and decide what mistakes this player is likely to make and then we would look to take advantage of that.For example someone with low vpip, low PFR, low total aggression and high win at showdown can be seen as a weak tight and we beat these people by simply betting into them post flop.

People with High VPIP , High PFR and High total aggression are maniacs and we should tighten up and play back at them when we have a premium hand.

People with high VPIP , Low PFR and low total aggression are loose passives and we should see more flops against these people and use position as a hammer to punish there weak play.

There are as many player types as there are people though so prepare to be surprised and always learn.

One other thing I do is set PAHUD to only look at the latest 2000 hands as we may run into the mistake of underestimating an improved player, remember people do learn.
11-10-2008 , 12:03 PM
To summarise:

VP$IP = Voluntarily placed money in pot

PFR = Pre flop raise

High PFR and VPIP = Consider them a LAG (Loose aggressive)

Low VPIP, Low PFR, Low Total Aggression and High Win at Showdown = Can be seen as a weak tight and we beat these people by simply betting into them post flop

Look for people with stats of 80+ = Tend to be weak at the river

High VPIP, High PFR and High Total Aggression = Maniacs, Use premium hands against them

High VPIP, Low PFR and Low Total Aggression = Loose Passives, Use position as a hammer to punish there weak play
11-10-2008 , 04:55 PM
I added 2 stats to the standard HUD: Folds to Continuation Bet and Folds to Flop Bet... if these numbers are high I will bet at the guy no matter what flops...
CBet folds is most important I think.. Got the idea from last weeks podcast interview with leatherass
11-10-2008 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Makwa
I added 2 stats to the standard HUD: Folds to Continuation Bet and Folds to Flop Bet... if these numbers are high I will bet at the guy no matter what flops...
CBet folds is most important I think.. Got the idea from last weeks podcast interview with leatherass
N1 i'll check it out.Tx. Curiously, do you use PT3 Hud better in Cash or Mtt's?

Last edited by GiantRhino; 11-10-2008 at 05:13 PM.
11-10-2008 , 07:49 PM
Keep those favourite HUD stat set ups coming, I dont want this thread to finish here.
11-11-2008 , 02:54 PM
My PT3 HUD (and a tutorial on how I built it) is available in the How To: Advanced HUD Configuration.
11-12-2008 , 04:14 PM
I like the idea of color ranges. What would be good color ranges for VPIP, PFR, AF, and W$SD?
07-26-2010 , 02:30 AM
I am new to PT3 so this question may be dumb...

What does everyone do with ALL those windows that pop up when I first start up PT3 HUD?

There are 5 pages for every player that take up the whole screen so I cant bet/fold etc.

I have moved them all to the very bottom and saved the layout so they dont popup anymore but I cant get to the data now, it seems like there is something setup incorrectly but I cant figure out how to change it in PT3
07-26-2010 , 03:44 AM
That sounds like you have changed the popup groups to be "show on table for everyone".
If you haven't made any other changes to your HUD then the easiest thing to do will be to replace the current profile with the default - see the Tutorial: Managing HUD Profiles.

Otherwise, you can change the groups back to "popup use only" (all except the groups you want to see on the table, "Player Stats" by default). Tutorial: Managing HUD Groups
07-26-2010 , 02:50 PM
Thank you very much, that is what I needed.

Now I am going to try and setup the right click stats with all the info I want

Thank You again.
07-28-2010 , 05:07 AM
Kraada--how do you download the file and put it to use on your computer??
07-28-2010 , 09:48 AM
You can get it either in the last post of the thread I linked or in the repository. It's a zip file with a text file called README.TXT that is included - it gives you the instructions you need.
07-28-2010 , 10:42 AM
Kraada's HUD is absolute gold (would be platinum if someone hadn't subsequently broken the M calcs).

Colour coding by a related stat is genius!
07-28-2010 , 04:01 PM
Your kind words are very much appreciated!
07-30-2010 , 10:57 PM
With the M Calcs in the tourney M4 profile I sometimes I have different values for my opponents M. There will be a value for this session and another one that I forget the label. The one that is shown on the HUD usually is incorrect but when I move my cursor over the M to highlight it the subsequent popup will have the correct value.

Has there been any updated versions?
07-31-2010 , 04:38 AM
The "M" workaround stat no longer works correctly for your opponents due to the incrementally updating cache. The session value in the tooltip should be correct though. The request for a built-in version of stats like this has been passed on to the development team.

      
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