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Old 03-06-2010, 03:00 AM   #201
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

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Its so hard for him to have one playing any 2.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:30 AM   #202
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

I c/r the flop 45% of the time which is probably terrible and is something I'm working on - I just can't help myself. Anyway, let me at least try to defend copokahahahahaha (I customarily ignore this guy's stat posts because they are just slightly more intelligent than Kindergarten 'let me tie my shoe and get my name on the wall' level):

There are a lot of hands Q7 beats on an A52 flop that we may not want to give a free card. Some opponents will fold these hands outright to a c/r. If we just c/c flop, c/f turn UI and a guy tends to barrel all 3 streets, we have no chance vs. middling hands. Against the right opponent I think there may be some merit to this so long as we decide not to put anymore bets into this pot after the flop unless we pair up.

Grilling me shall now commence.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:42 AM   #203
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about 100k

Basically and unfortunately, just the way you describe.
No way to win.
Rather noway to win a large pot.
I call it unbalanced coolers.
If I flop srt8 and win I make 3 times less than I lose when I flop str8 and lose etc.
Faking enormous drag. And I try to be very objective about it, believe me.

I wish you never go that far in it.
Interesting 100k certainly means there is likely a skill component wrong with your game. Even my 50k is indicative of this.

OTR what is your longest breakeven stretch for comparision? I assume youve logged infinite hands
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:45 AM   #204
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OTR what is your longest breakeven stretch for comparision? I assume youve logged infinite hands
I honestly don't know. I can check right now.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:48 AM   #205
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

This is not an argument for the above discussion, but I thought it would be funny to reference an old discussion thread in this forum:

"preflop: David B raises and Hoss calls with Qc7s.

Flop Ah 5d 4h: Hoss check-raises and David B calls.

Turn 2c: Hoss bets"

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...avid-b-274088/

:-)

But pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease don't start bickering about this. Just read the thread if you find the topic interesting. It has good posts.

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Old 03-06-2010, 03:54 AM   #206
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

like 40k or so? Maybe a bit less?
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:59 AM   #207
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like 40k or so? Maybe a bit less?
that sucks, and i assume given ur rep and the fact that u coach that u beat midstakes + for at least 5 bb..

did u think that your skill level decreased during that cooler
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:01 AM   #208
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

haha nice find JarnoV.

Turn & river are still misplayed though !
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:07 AM   #209
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did u think that your skill level decreased during that cooler
To be 100% honest, I didn't even notice it.
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:20 AM   #210
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To be 100% honest, I didn't even notice it.
wow...is this detachment from your results something you've always had ? I'm the exact opposite of this, I could pretty much always tell you how much I'm up for the session/day/month/year.
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:23 AM   #211
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wow...is this detachment from your results something you've always had ? I'm the exact opposite of this, I could pretty much always tell you how much I'm up for the session/day/month/year.
Yeah. I mean I can sometimes tell when I'm running bad and it's not like I never check results, but I just don't get hung up on whatever good/bad streak I'm on. FWIW I think the fact that I can not think about the good and bad runs too much is one of my biggest strengths as a poker player.
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Old 03-06-2010, 06:15 AM   #212
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

I think the fact that you win all the monies is one of your biggest strengths as a poker player.
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Old 03-06-2010, 06:57 AM   #213
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lol
Zee German Dax = Lela Dax ?

You should REALLY brush up your poker basics then.
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:11 AM   #214
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

Bugger me, 6 new pages since last night. Can we have a separate thread for anything Cop wants to post and those who are interested enough to argue about, never skipped so much of this before. His play's perfect guys he can't take advice/debate just leave him to crush 3-6 while the rest of us mortals struggle along.
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:16 AM   #215
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

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Zee German Dax = Lela Dax ?

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You should REALLY brush up your poker basics then.
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:12 AM   #216
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Bugger me, 6 new pages since last night. Can we have a separate thread for anything Cop wants to post and those who are interested enough to argue about, never skipped so much of this before. His play's perfect guys he can't take advice/debate just leave him to crush 3-6 while the rest of us mortals struggle along.
Two things:

1. Yes smart. Skip it.

2. 99 replies per page. Do it!
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:48 AM   #217
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

wowza to all that above!

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wait i just reread the whole thing srsly are u not calling down the pair of aces hand ???

folding in that situation seems far more exploitable than calling
How would you exploit this?
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:47 AM   #218
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This is not an argument for the above discussion, but I thought it would be funny to reference an old discussion thread in this forum:

"preflop: David B raises and Hoss calls with Qc7s.

Flop Ah 5d 4h: Hoss check-raises and David B calls.

Turn 2c: Hoss bets"

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...avid-b-274088/

:-)

But pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease don't start bickering about this. Just read the thread if you find the topic interesting. It has good posts.
Nice post. TYVM

Obv., I've never read it. If I would, i doubt very much the same amount of arrogant, condescending, pseudo scientific know-it-all BS would get to be dumped on me. At least it would have been harder to do. Even for creative righting specialist.

@ MurderbyNumbers123

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Interesting 100k certainly means there is likely a skill component wrong with your game. Even my 50k is indicative of this.
Certanly means? Even 50k IS indicative?

What are the basis for such confidence?
Do we have rules on this I missed?

@wolfram

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I think the fact that you win all the monies is one of your biggest strengths as a poker player.
I could not agree more.

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just leave him to crush 3-6 while the rest of us mortals struggle along.
struggle along towards 3/6?

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Old 03-06-2010, 11:07 AM   #219
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Two things:

1. Yes smart. Skip it.
Yes skip it. Especially now, when you can go here

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...avid-b-274088/

and compare notes on folding Q7 PF or get some reasons from some very respected players on why c/r Q7 on A53 flop might, just might have some merits.

So what about those 2 hand after all.

Hand 1.

from OTR

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I think he's bluffing sometimes. Just not more than 1 time in 8.
Ok. I can live with that. At least after this comment, hand 1 is not a reason anymore for my BE stretch.

Hand 2.

I gotta tell you, I sure picked up some ammunition here

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...avid-b-274088/.

So it can be a blood bath.

Given the fact how important image is for some people (for all kinds of reasons
), I dont think blood bath is in their best interests.

So, i would suggest this.

Remember "My Cousin Vinny"?
Remember Jim Trotter III?

"In lights of Sheriff's Farley and miss Vito testimonies, state would like to dismiss all charges"

Remember his look when he said that?
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:09 AM   #220
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

A 100k breakeven stretch is very unlikely for a 2 BB/100 winrate.
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:30 AM   #221
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A 100k breakeven stretch is very unlikely for a 2 BB/100 winrate.
Less likely than 400BB/100 downer over 20k hands for 3BB/100 WR?

LOL.

Should I bring back unsubstantiated bayesian arguments and use them for my benefits now?

Funny.

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Old 03-06-2010, 12:34 PM   #222
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that sucks, and i assume given ur rep and the fact that u coach that u beat midstakes + for at least 5 bb..

did u think that your skill level decreased during that cooler
I missed that.

Sry for my comment above
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:55 PM   #223
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struggle along towards 3/6?
Probably not. Keep fighting the good fight though.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:57 PM   #224
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Re: HUHU NC/LC Thread for March

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wowza to all that above!



How would you exploit this?
I mean it goes without saying hood

ive heard this from like a million different places but if u can get someone to fold top pair with any consistency at all they will absolutely be crushed at LHE

for example... if I KNEW that someone was pitching an ace (and every other pair) there on the river 100% of the time I would be c/ring 100% of aces always no matter what. and it would crush. it costs 2 bb to win 6.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:59 PM   #225
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A 100k breakeven stretch is very unlikely for a 2 BB/100 winrate.
in all reality though a 100k breakeven stretch is FARRRR more likely ( I mean alot alot alot alot) than a 40k breakeven stretch for someone with 5+ BB winrate.

Assuming OTR does beat the game for a world class clip over here.

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