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09-23-2010 , 06:42 AM
Hey Guys,

I'm a NLHE MTT junkie, but I have been roped in to playing in a HULHE game, against someone who actually know what they're doing. My NL HU game is reasonable, and I'm happy with my reads, but I'm looking for some strat to improve my HULHE game. Is there a thread (yes I have searched, and nothing came up) or another resource where I could get an idea of HULHE ABC poker?

I'd appreciate your help, and look forward to the flaming...
09-23-2010 , 07:31 AM
Are you MissNikita1987?
09-23-2010 , 07:38 AM
hasu you can remove the Trojan Full Tilt from your computer before you go broke.
09-23-2010 , 07:56 AM
Nope, I'm me.

Seriously, I've been posting in BQ for a while, and I regualrly play the Shanoobs game on a saturday night.

I've been playing poker for years, but the only game I've taken at all seriously is NLHE. All of my instinct are from a NL environment, and it seems that my LHE really sucks. This is only a (reasonably) friendly game, but I would like to stand a chance in hell...
09-23-2010 , 12:16 PM
raise buttons, fold some more from BB than you open OTB, call down if you have a hand, raise if you have a big hand, fold or raise if you have nothing
09-23-2010 , 01:48 PM
Write this down, it is very important...if you are sure you are beat and and your hand is towards the bottom of your showdown able hand range, then you should fold sometimes.
09-23-2010 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket
raise buttons, fold some more from BB than you open OTB, call down if you have a hand, raise if you have a big hand, fold or raise if you have nothing
Exactly along with value betting a little thinner imo.
09-23-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hippy80
Nope, I'm me.

Seriously, I've been posting in BQ for a while, and I regualrly play the Shanoobs game on a saturday night.

I've been playing poker for years, but the only game I've taken at all seriously is NLHE. All of my instinct are from a NL environment, and it seems that my LHE really sucks. This is only a (reasonably) friendly game, but I would like to stand a chance in hell...
My advice:

Don't play a set-up match while you let one of your friends watch via teamviewer.
09-23-2010 , 06:02 PM
the people in these forums brighten my day
09-23-2010 , 07:38 PM
KJo is the nuts; 53s is trash*. Never fold to a preflop 3bet.


*but play it anyway if rake is low
09-23-2010 , 07:55 PM
never fold a pair and you'll never make a big mistake...
09-23-2010 , 10:41 PM
Depending on how badly you want to win the match or what the stakes are, it might make sense to put in some practice hands against better opponents. Maybe sit somebody at stakes you are comfortable losing at or play a handful of SnGs.
09-24-2010 , 07:21 AM
Firstly, thanks for taking time to stop by and either give me advice, or flame me. Much appreciated.

Johnny, Thanks for actually answering the question, it's not a bad start.

Muppets, I'm plating as much HULHE as both my bankroll and boredom threshold will alow. I can't help i've been raised on NL, and actually like it.

Any more advice is gratefully recieved, and please continue with the flaming...
09-24-2010 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hippy80
Any more advice is gratefully recieved
Post some hands. Include reads but not results.

Edit: Also, if you find you're getting bored easily, you're doing it wrong. That would be less of a problem if you were a crushing winner over a couple hundred thousand hands but when you're just learning the game you should find there's a lot to think about, even with your NL background. Find my "top ten tells" post in the LC thread for some ideas of mistakes NL players commonly make when transitioning to LHE.

Last edited by themuppets; 09-24-2010 at 09:44 AM.
09-24-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket
raise buttons, fold some more from BB than you open OTB, call down if you have a hand, raise if you have a big hand, fold or raise if you have nothing
I'll guess i've found a leak in my game than.

although I try to adapt to my opponents otb range. Since i often play against 80/20 guys i tighten my BB range. But against a decent player i didn't think you should play tighter from the BB
09-24-2010 , 11:57 AM
Shouldnt you call any2 at the bigblind?

As the pay is 1:4 and the chance to hit the flop is 1:3
09-24-2010 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by themuppets
Post some hands. Include reads but not results.

Also dont always post every hand you lose just due to a cold deck or running into tops of peoples ranges. Interesting hands are many times close spots that require thought.
09-24-2010 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by djdanny82
Shouldnt you call any2 at the bigblind?

As the pay is 1:4 and the chance to hit the flop is 1:3
This depends very much on blind structure and rake considerations.
09-24-2010 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnome XXL
This depends very much on blind structure and rake considerations.
Yeah, I also think a lot of hands in the bottom 20% are just really hard to play postflop when you're OOP. If you overdefend, you're basically setting yourself up to make bigger mistakes later on in the hand.

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Originally Posted by djdanny82
Shouldnt you call any2 at the bigblind?

As the pay is 1:4 and the chance to hit the flop is 1:3
Against most opponents, you can also think about this as a 5:2 decision. This would result in a theoretically playable range of hands with an equity of 33% against your opponent's opening range. Such a range is unlikely to be ATC. Even if it was, you have to realize that this math makes no consideration for your positional disadvantage.

In some ways, this part of the discussion reminds me of Stewie's story in the LC thread.

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Originally Posted by Flimitstyle
Also dont always post every hand you lose just due to a cold deck or running into tops of peoples ranges. Interesting hands are many times close spots that require thought.
Yeah, I was thinking today when I left for work about how LHE is really a game where your ability to do well in marginal situations is a key factor in your long term results. Getting razor thin value with nut no pair is a lot more important than what happens when you flop the near nuts.
09-25-2010 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by themuppets

Yeah, I was thinking today when I left for work about how LHE is really a game where your ability to do well in marginal situations is a key factor in your long term results. Getting razor thin value with nut no pair is a lot more important than what happens when you flop the near nuts.
Id never looked at it that way before, but this really sums up hulhe very well. Very profound muppets. U go to the head of the class.
09-25-2010 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by herbertstemple
Id never looked at it that way before, but this really sums up hulhe very well. Very profound muppets. U go to the head of the class.
Are we giving away strategy now because the matches are so rare?

FWIW, I thought HUHU was all about preventing the villain from sucking out when he caps a gutshot on the turn.
09-25-2010 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by randomrules
Are we giving away strategy now because the matches are so rare?

FWIW, I thought HUHU was all about preventing the villain from sucking out when he caps a gutshot on the turn.
as if it wasn't public knowledge that lhe was just about thin edges

you guys can try as much as you want to not give away strategy, but fact is that there's already lot of info out there...
09-25-2010 , 11:37 AM
Doods,

I was kidding.

Last edited by randomrules; 09-25-2010 at 11:42 AM. Reason: and drunk
09-25-2010 , 01:07 PM
and i'm a bit of in a bad mood lately

could you please do one more youtube vid?
09-25-2010 , 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djdanny82
Shouldnt you call any2 at the bigblind?
The short answer is no. The medium answer is you should defend hands where your net expectation from calling is higher than -1sb (after rake). The long answer is really long.

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As the pay is 1:4 and the chance to hit the flop is 1:3
There are more streets than the flop you know.

Also, your notation is wrong. 1:4 means "one against four" which is equal to 1/5 or "one out of five". The odds you get defending your BB are 1:3 or 1/4.

Last edited by Wolfram; 09-25-2010 at 05:16 PM.

      
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