Ya, if you are going to play MTTs as a 'part time grind' then you might as well treat them as recreational entertainment with the chance of a bink, but unless you are going to commit to huuuuuge volume, you will probably just want to kys after a few months.

Although, to be fair, if you do indeed commit to huuuuuuge MTT volume, you will probably still want to kys after a few months!!

Ok, ok, I keeeeeeeeeed...but, pretty much what Whey said. They are gonna be filled with the gambooolz whereas cashaments are just nice (shorter) bursts of controlled wins and losses. My personal preference has kind of grown into full time cash, with some part time MTTaments mixed in so I can keep a measure of sanity in my life, without the 14 hour day after day soul crushing MTT grind. However it shapes up for you, best of luck, and thanks for sharing your adventures!

whats kys mean? lol

Understand, but i feel doing cash game 6 days a week after long hours of work is just getting to me. Not giving me enough time for myself and meeting people down here.

I think i might just make this more recreational and save up money for big GTDs. I love poker and the almost "chess" feel to the game. I think doing this will make me enjoy the game even more, by putting alot less volume everyday for cash game and put in more time studying for events and playing my A game in tournaments. This giving me more of a chance to enjoy the game and not just slave to the game.

(Will still be doing cash games, but far less.)

kys = kill yer self

Definitely gruesome to try and grind 6 days a week alongside working fulltime. I was doing that in the underground games here for a while. I'd work 8 hours, take a dinner break and workout, then go grind from 8PM to 2AM, sometimes more sometimes less but that was the gist of it for a good while. I managed a nice win rate, but it was a big life suck.

Currently I'm off the grind altogether. Can't believe it even. But my life priorities just don't include it right now. I'm focusing on my day job, BLECK!, and plotting the escape from my day job building my own business. All so I can redevelop my life plan to have more control over my time, and be able to include grinding in my schedule on better terms. The only poker I'm doing now is a bit of Bovada to tame the degen in me and the occasional live MTT when I can make it which isn't often enough thanks to my geographical location.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone play ak like that?

pretty sure its been said, but the unnecessary Hollywood will cost you $ when/if you run into a competent player(s) any mtt action in the plans?

What do you mean hes making it work? He started off with 800, injected another 1100 in his roll after winning and dropping back to 900, injected more money from online winnings and i believe hes up at blackjack as well (+4xx and -200).

I didnt do the exact math but feels like hes losing or breakeven at best at 1/2.

Apparently, he did stop.

but he calls to show people that he s not ****ing around.

Ho could he be a losing player?

Is this thread dead? I just read through the whole thing and was really enjoying seeing his lifestyle and grinding, especially through his eyes and perspective. Without going into details and offending any 2+2ers, I think it's important to remember that this is a thread about his lifestyle, not an analytical breakdown of his hands. If you would like a super specific discussion on them they can be found at the LLSNL. I think it's very interesting to see the way he breaks down hands and analyzes them albeit sometimes incorrectly. I think a lot of the posts seem negative but most of these guys are looking out for your best interest in telling you to study your play.

Having said that, I was once in your very shoes as most of us 2+2ers have been, and I would suggest buying both of the Harringtons Cash Games V1 & V2. Read them both cover to cover "even the boring or redundant parts" and then go crush the tables for about 50hrs. Then go back with your applied knowledge and read them again. I promise in that amount of time you will be beating the games faster,better and with less variance then before, and will have a solid understand going into 2/5.

For what it's worth I started 1/2 when I was 21 while working and going to school full time and never took it super serious similar to your situation. I'm now 28, have a full time college job and still put in about 20hrs a week at deep stack 3/5 1k buyin, and the 5-10 when it runs in my casino, and sample about $40-45 an hr over 1400hrs of live play. So I feel ya man stick with it but stay humble and keep learning. But READ THEM BOOKS, they are the new age bible for 1/2 cash game players!!!

I'm in late to the thread. I don't understand the suggestion of not calling $5 more with 35s from the SB when the flop is set to go off 7 handed. It's different if you suspect the BB is going to re-raise but he's the only one still left to act.

You should be able to get away from the hand easily on the flop if you don't hit. And your relative position to the pfr is great especially if the Big Blind plays straight forwardly or telegraphs his actions in any way.

Is this just another leak in my game?

I said fold because A) we are out of position, B) we are buying in short, and C) we are easily dominated by higher straights and higher flushes when we hit.

It's not as easy to "get away from a hand" when we are forced to act first. Calling raises with any 2 suited cards out of position while buying in short is a great way to dwindle down the short buy-in, and make the eventual double-up less meaningful. That's why I am folding preflop.

great advice bro. hav read em booth myself and great thinking spots to employ. im looking to head out west myself just divorced and tieing up lose ends by next month just have a dream i never finished from 07 when i built up i 9k roll in 1/2 but got marries moved to texas etc etc.

Must of went busto

Back from the dead guys .. ;D

Ive lost a lot of my interest in poker.. I pretty much in a sense went busto off my "roll".
Got into BJ and other table games.
The quick money got to me, lol.
I still have money that i could play, but gambling is gambling. Regardless if you believe poker is a game of skill, try being on the bad end up the stick for 2 weeks, go in with the best and still lose constantly.

I still play but only for recreational.
Tbh, Grinding 5-8 hours a day just got to me.
I will be participating in the colossal still.
(HMU if you are doing it, i would love to meet up and chat)

I still encourage players to keep learning and enjoy the game, but to make it a primary income is just nonsense. People will argue with me, but trust me Ive been through it. I might not be the best but poker was my life, Inside and out. I Study constantly, read, played patient.. Played aggressive.. i tried it all. I had a run like a mother ****er though and i wouldn't take it back in a heart beat.

Also, making this forum was a huge part of my Vegas experience so far. It was great and met a lot of people doing it. So for you 2+2ers even the ones who doubted me going through. thank you.

I will update any LIVE tournaments i do also, but will no longer keep this thread going.

PEACE

Congrats on completing that part of your life journey. Everyone needs to figure out on their own what works for them. You will always be able to look back and say you tried it and have no regrets. Now go get some education and start making real money so you can play poker anytime you want without worry. Good luck!

WAHA!!! More like "Can stop, did stop, crash and burn"......Its been five months are your throwing in the towel!!?!?!?!! What a joke. Here's the deal, from following your thread it looks to me like you freestyled this too hard and went in at full speed without any sort of solid plan or well thought out goals. You didn't take a shot at playing poker for a living you took a shot at the "Vegas lifestyle" and failed miserably. -I'm gonna help you with your game.
What you ought to do is take a break(a month or maybe two) to regroup. Total break from poker- No colossus, no millionaire maker, no poker books or 2+2 forum, NOTHING....Spend time in the gym(HIRE A TRAINER!-also a strong core and good flexibility will help with long hours at the table), see the rest of the city, trying out new stuff you never thought you would do( I suggest learning a new language and shooting guns!!). Just step away. Then, when its all out of your system and your head is clear- come back. Not the way you did before but with a more balanced and well rounded view. Start by rereading every poker book you have, then at least two you have never read and read them twice.Also read a few none poker books- Dale Carnegie s: how to win friends and influence people, Sun Tzu: Art of war, Marcus Lutrell: Lone survivor, Stephen R.Covey: 7 habits of highly effective people, George Washington: Rules of Civility & Decent Behavior in Company and Conversation (Little Books of Wisdom), are all a must read learn what they have to offer. Spend a couple hours a day for two weeks dealing out hands and calculating the odds, first on paper and then in your head till you can do it very quickly and still get it right(you cant estimate odds- if you do, its just a guess in which case whats the point?) Do it 9 seated just like it would occur at a game and do it for all 9 hands in order, on each street. Also calculate what the right move for each person would be based upon odds(bet fold or check) do this everyday for two weeks once your good at that do it with two radios on different stations and the TV on, you will be amazed how quickly you and your game improves. also practice basic times tables, addition and subtraction and division (You can just do that on paper with what ever numbers you choose) This will help you act more quickly and precisely and help you come to the most accurate numbers. get your eyes checked, if you need corrective eye wear get contacts or surgurey-bad eyes sight will only make a very visual game harder. Approach poker differently- Make going to play more than just trying to win a few hundred bucks, Make a plan before you go, dress up a bit as if your going out, dont just show up after work in you work clothes(You dont have to wear a tie and vest, but it wouldnt hurt) make sure your hygiene is squared away- Shower, fresh deoderant and cologne, brush your teeth, clean your ears etc... all that ****. You know, conduct yourself as if you have a reason to get out of bed in the mourning and the person you see when you look in the mirror matters. stay in the game while you are there, constant analysis and observation is a must, you should always be learning. Do not catagorize other players- This guy is a "fish" That guy is a "reg"- Check yourself- You have refered to many other players as fish but now who is on the forum tapping out after going busto? Not ever table has such a simple division of players its much more dynamic than that, you don't want to underestimate someone and have it cost you big when that estimation turns out wrong( Which it already has) and you don't want to lose value by over estimating someone and playing poorly due to some hyper inflated sense of skill level (Which you already have) Set a solid limit when you sit down- I prefer a dollar limit and not a time limit as you are not playing for hours you are playing for money, but you can set a time max and I do reccomend that, this should be a win limit as well as a loss limit. Example- Buy in-$200 cash out-$400($200 profit) a simple double up, no more than 6 hours no more than 2 buy ins, if you get felted, rebuy once and only to win back the initial buy in- 30 minute break in between buyins (cool down period). Maybe double the cash out limit on fri, sat and sun (High action days) Take half of your profit from each session- One half goes into your wallet, one half goes into your bank roll. Do not make poker a first priority, fitness and some hobby should be (Like martial arts or playing music or whatever your into) You don't have to keep playing but I also don't think you should quit because it didn't go perfect the first time. - "Whether you think you can or think you can'y, you're right"
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Quite the rant from someone making his first post. Are you him or do you know him in real life?

Pro Tip: Paragraphs are your friend.

Also, your advice on using a dollar limit and not a time limit is likely the worst advice in this thread.

Yes a stop loss will make sense for tilt and the threshold of pain issues, but having a stop win is lololololol bad.

Yea, I can't think of a single business that would think making money needs to have a cap or a limit set to it.

#Communism. #That****Cray

China is the Parent company of all national business and business is good -

dollar, dollar bills y'all