A real Claude Rains moment ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

Shocked, there is gambling going on are ya ?

Details ?

Was that the older white dude Trump supporter guy? There's a dealer there that's constantly making mistakes, being an *******, and making political snipes but I forget his name. Super unprofessional and easily the worst dealer I've seen in years. Seriously, besides the unprofessional level of unwanted and insulting political commentary, I saw him make a significant mistake like every 3 hands, often misreading them, mucking winning hands, making all sorts of random procedural mistakes.

What was the supposed infraction? How was the dealer in error? What was the verbal abuse?

Does anyone have an updated list for min/max buyins for the Vegas rooms?

In particular, the lower NL games (such as 1/3) at Ballys, Caesars, Bellagio, Aria, etc.

$100-300 is the standard at 1/3. Wynn has bigger caps on their games, I think $500 at 1/3 but I'm not positive. Resorts World is in the middle.

Wynn has $500 max at $1/$3. Resorts World has $400 max.

If I remember correctly, a random place like The Orleans also have $500 cap on their $1/$3 game.

MGM has stack matching which is nice, the only Vegas room that does as far as I know. I think the normal cap is $300, but it's almost guaranteed someone else at the table is going to have a lot more than that and you can fully match it.

So they do have match-the-stack now at MGM? Interesting

Saw Trooper mentioned it in his recent vlog from MGM, but doesn't look like he has done much research on the rooms so didn't really take it as a fact.

Not much action there but I think Sahara might allow that too

I walked by the tables at MGM a couple of times and thought the stack sizes were too small. I saw tables with several players having less than $200 or even $150 and nobody with much over $300. Was a little disappointed because the ability to match the stack sounds interesting.

Edit: On Bravo it says if a new game starts the max you can buy in for is $600. Interesting.

Think they only changed recently. When I went in November it was 1-2, $300 max. When I played there last week I sat down at a table and three players had >$1k stacks but not many were actually matching the stack (I was expecting old rules so only had $600 on me and cba going back to the room to get more) and most were between $200 - $500.

It definitely benefited some more than others, there was a 2-5 pro sat in the game cleaning up and I made sure to avoid him!

If he really was a Vegas 2-5 pro, I would have targeted him. Ime Vegas 2-5 is softer than local 1-3 plus he prolly doesn’t have real experience playing 300+ BB deep. But imo.

LOL, you'd pick on someone "known" to play in bigger games, in your opinon, instead of avoiding him.

Yea, sound strategic choice ......you would have really given him "what for ".

So you'd rather target the best player at most 2-5 tables than the worst player at your 1-3 table?

I'm really suspicious about these posts talking about how easy Vegas is compared to their home towns. Vegas is usually one of the toughest places to play at any limit, especially if you're talking about the best players at the game.

He’s at the 1-3 table and prolly playing deeper than he is used to at 300+ BB. Also, if he is a 2-5 pro, the money on the table means a whole lot more to him than me. I loose my whole poker role and I just go pull another poker roll from my 401K. The taxes on that unplanned income hurts me more (cause I hate paying taxes and unplanned income screws up things also)

Ime Vegas is easier than non Vegas at 2-5 and lower and plays shallower also.

How do you know how strong he is? There are lots of pros, even in Vegas, who suck or are nits playing scared. Not saying he is or isn’t good, we don’t really know. Could be the deck is running him over.

With that said if I find he is out playing me, I am wise enough to back off

Would I go to a 2-5 game to find him, no. But if he comes to my 1-3 game and think I will be scared money at 300 BB, then yes I will play with him all night long esp hands where I am in position.

Realize that is a game (deep stack 1-3 cash) I see all the time locally. I prolly have played more 300+ BB deep than he has

If he is on the nitty side he won’t be involved in that many pots. The 1-2 players would be involved in more and have bigger leaks so wouldn’t they be easier to target?

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I retract the cr*p I gave Fore above. Fore, if your intent in your post on 2_2 was to brag hypothetically about how you would measure whose d*ck is bigger in your 1/3 game v some interloper pro moving down from 2-5 because he thinks he can exploit YOU, have at it.

What does poker strategy have to do with this ? Fore may be a legend only in his own mind at 1-3, but he should be able enjoy himself on 2+2.

Just saying that deep stack low limit cash is much more common outside Vegas. That certainly could change but is true currently.

I am not the best player in the local games here. Some but not all who are better than I are pros and I do tread carefully. Sometimes even game selecting away from them even though it is a very good game. There are also plenty of pros who I love to see join the table. Being a pro does not make some one good necessarily.

There are also decent to good pros who know how to outplay me but choose to play a lower variance game. They know this is probably sub optimal but at that time in that session for whatever reason, they are valuing the lower variance.

From what little we know, we don’t have any basis to say if this pro is actually good or not. My real point is just because someone is a pro doesn’t mean they are God. Just because someone is playing deep, doesn’t mean you need fear them even if you are not deep. And if it is a pro playing deep, you def need to pay attention, but if you are going to play scared, you are better leaving. In SOME cases, leaving is the best. But sometimes you might have an opportunity to use his style against him for awhile. If he is a pro, he will adjust and so should you. But for awhile you could have an advantage and if so you need to use it.

It isn’t a macho thing. It is situational awar3ness and adjustments. Iow, it’s poker so play poker but don’t play scared.

First let me say “target” is too strong a word. Ime, targeting leads to making poor choices and trying to force things to happen. Be aware of the situation and if appropriate open up your game would be a better description

Just because I am looking for opportunities/situations where I have advantages against V1 doesn’t mean I avoid V2 or V3. Esp. If V1 is a decent pro. I would expect a true pro to adjust but not the others.

Regardless I am not going to play pots just to play pots with any of them

Yeah seriously this. Alot of Vegas rooms are infested with promo chasing nits like you won't see anywhere else in the country.

And I've played all over. Can't really think of anywhere off the top of my head in the US that features games tougher on average than Vegas. Vegas makes up for this to some extent by offering lots of venues with 24/7 games, free drinks, etc.

The idea of pulling money out of your 401(k) in order to re-up your poker roll is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard on 2+2. Which means it’s close to the dumbest thing I have ever heard anywhere.

Heading out next week for a few days. NFL draft being in town should make it pretty busy, correct? I’m looking to play 2/5 for the first time in Vegas. Sounds like my best bet for some longer sessions will be Aria, Bellagio, and Venetian. Is Resorts World a better bet for a decent game than Venetian?

Also will be playing some faster structured $100 tourneys with the guys while drinking, any recommendations?

Very excited to be out there and get in lots of play.

Hopefully you will have a good time. Going out myself in 2 weeks, also very excited

If you want to play $2-$5 for the first time, try Bellagio or Ceasars (if running). Both these have $500 cap, so it's a small transition over from your normal stakes, and makes it easier to feel comfortable.

For faster structured tourneys I would suggest Ceasars, as they run no less than 4 tourneys every day. They start out decently deep, but get shallow after first break, so at most they should take 3-4 hours to complete.

Venetian doesn’t have 2/5 anymore. They have 2/4 and 3/5. The buy-ins for those games are $200-$600 and $300-$1200.

With Resorts World it’s hard to say, games can be hit or miss in any room. I’ve seen some good games there but heard mixed views. The max you can start with there is $1200 so it’s going to be a bigger game than the Bellagio 2/5.

Just returned from a week in Vegas.

Caesar's had 2 2/5 games running most days.


--klez