Hey guys,

I'm planning to spend two weeks in september around Vegas and Los Angeles with 3 friends.


Would you have advices on what to do or what to avoid (activity, accommodation, visit)?

We are from Europe, what would be the best way to change currency (got a euro skrill account but I'm not VIP)

We have not plan anything yet, my first thought would be to go to the grand canyon, try to catch up some of my favorite comic (Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, Bert Kreischer), visit a studio in LA, fire some weapon

On the poker side, is there any place where I could play some 5 card omaha (1-2 to 5-10)?

In the United States Omaha, both limit and plo are played with 4 cards. Sorry to disappoint

The best chance to play BIG O Limit 4/8 or 8/16 is in LA at Commerce or The Bike. Look at Bravo Poker.

Both Wynn and Cesars have Big O which is 5-card PLO8. Sorry...


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It would seem that you are unfamiliar with the game some refer to as Big-O or, alternately, Congress. Admittedly, I too had been unfamiliar with Congress until I saw it on the boards in Durant and asked what it was.

It isn't spread on a regular basis in many areas, but it definitely exists...

Plenty of time to get Skrill VIP and get their mastercard. Use it at points of sale, pay your (and other) hotel bills with it, etc. Dinner with friends, pay for it all on card and take $ cash from them? Ask around for Euro-local players that you know travelling to WSOP this summer to trade with you when they get back?

I would for sure take the time to check out Grand Canyon. Also plenty of great food off strip in Vegas. The strip itself is overpriced when it comes to drinks/food.

Thx guys,

It is a shame omaha 5 cards is not played over there, my favorite variant right after pot limit 6 cards omaha three board

We will check out Grand Canyon for sure!

For skrill I was thinking about that but look to hard to reach since my friends want to buy their plane ticket themself (insurance)

worth a visit to the below if you want none degen activities in vegas

Neon museum
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attrac...as_Nevada.html

pinball hall of fame
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attrac...as_Nevada.html

shoot some guns
https://www.battlefieldvegas.com/


if your in LA, get your cash game fix there rather than vegas, games are much more juicy, the Bike and Commerce both spread lots of games

Also Hoover Dam, it's only 30 miles from Vegas.

Thx battlefield vegas look amazing! It brought back some good memories from call of duty / counter I will for sure try to set up a visit!

Red Rock Canyon, just west of Las Vegas is considered among the top five climbing destinations in the world. It's a spectacular, primordial world.

Climbing look amazing! Is it beginner friendly? We are in shape but not athletic anymore and none of us did climbing before (except a bit in high school and it was the more intense and exhausting sport I have ever done)

Is it easy to find a guide that would provide us the equipement or do we have to buy it?

Thank you to share your experiences! Look like I won't play poker over there

There’s plenty climbing info on the web, e.g. https://www.mountainproject.com/area/105731932/red-rock

Mid to late September could be good weather for climbing, early September might still be too hot. October/November and March/April are the best months for that, at least according to people who know way more about it than I do.

Red Rock is also pretty awesome to hike and that’s something you can do while it’s still a little warmer outside if you take the necessary precautions like bringing plenty water.

FWIW, some people think the Hoover Damn is amazing, others think it’s kinda boring. I am in the latter camp, but that obviously doesn’t mean you won’t enjoy it.

For the Grand Canyon, I'd consider skipping the Native American Reservations and taking a day or two to visit the Grand Canyon National Park (South Rim), it's a long drive but easily worth it when compared to the reservation offerings.

For exchanging € to $, there's a place called "Foreign Money Exchange" at 101 Convention Center, they had stupidly good rates when I went there with couple of friends to exchange some money, much better than any of the big exchanges or even banks.

Yes, go to the South Rim. And take the time to actually hike down into it (however far you are comfortable going down...and of course remember you must hike back up), dont just walk along the rim, take a few photos, then leave.

If you decide to go to Red Rock, be sure to get there EARLY for two reasons. One is to avoid the mass of humanity that gets there about 10am and second is for heat reasons. The park opens at 6AM so if possible, I'd try to get out there when it opens.

You could also go to Zion National Park in Utah...its under 3 hours to get there so it's closer than the Grand Canyon. You could make a day trip out of it if you start super early in the morning and get there, again, before the mass of humanity descends on the park. Obviously if you do a day trip you can't see everything but you could do the iconic Angel's Landing hike in the morning (if you have any fear of heights I would not recommend going all the way to the end.... and someone just fell off and died a couple weeks ago so don't go to the end if it's been raining) and then hike up The Narrows in the afternoon, then drive back to Vegas. Of course ideally a multi-day side trip would be ideal as then you could also visit Bryce Canyon National Park, which I actually found more photogenic.

To avoid: Death Valley. Probably dont need to say that but it will be blistering hot in September.

I wouldnt necessarily avoid it, but I'd probably put the Hoover Dam far down on your priority list. I'd rather spend time at the Grand Canyon and/or Zion/Bryce before visiting the Dam. Yeah it's big, but it's just a dam. But if you're driving to the Grand Canyon, you'll drive right past it so it's worth a stop.

As far as Vegas goes, if you enjoy drinking and hanging out at bars/listening to DJ's, then East Fremont is a must. There are several bars like Downtown Cocktail Room (my favorite), The Griffin, etc. all within a few square blocks. Also, the Container Park is pretty cool just another block further East.

Make the GC an overnight trip. Its a 4-5 hours drive, one way, from LV. Get a cabin at Bright Angel, or a good hotel room at El Tovar (may have changed name).

If you're heading to Los Angeles from Vegas, Disneyland isn't that much of a detour. Get yourself a churro too!

Before the tour inside was closed, it was very cool. (See, the Beavis & Butthead movie, which is remarkably faithful to the actual tour.)

Now, it's ehhh.

Zion, Bryce and GC North Rim, for the win

I was considering Dysneyland (I love the one in Paris) and then I saw the 6 flags attraction park that seems to be more oriented on thrill, isn't it?

Thx for your input guys!

If you’re talking about the Santa Clarita 6 Flags, that’s definitely more “thrill” focused. Their advertising says they are the theme park with the largest number of roller coasters in the world.

We have a Grand Canyon thread here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...t=grand+canyon

Thx for the help.

We are goin to do some shooting for sure in september!

https://www.battlefieldvegas.com/

Is it the best spot to do so?

We are also going to do the archery tag.

https://www.headzupvegas.com/archery-tag-las-vegas/

if we do some climbing it will be at the Yosemite.


My main preocupation is to find a place to stay now for 2-3 days.

I saw a lot of bad reviews concerning hotel in Vegas, plus the scam of resort fees ...

Where would be the best place for us to stay? We plan to visit the grand canyon, to do some shooting, play a bit at the casino and maybe do the archery tag.

We will basicly go to the hotel to take a shower and sleep so no need resort. I guess a airbnb outside the strip would suit us the best? Any recommandation?

Not sure about the bad reviews but generally speaking, Las Vegas has lots of great hotels. I don’t think there’s a need for another thread about resort fees, so I’ll just say they are annoying but certainly not a scam (because they are disclosed) and leave it at that.

I’d recommend staying on the Strip for first time visitors. Same way first time NYC tourists benefit from staying in Manhattan or Brooklyn instead of Newark. That’s just part of the Vegas experience. If money is one of your biggest concerns, there’s nothing wrong with AIRBNB off Strip. Otherwise I would look into one of the medium tier options on the Strip.