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Vegas Workers Strike on the Horizon? Vegas Workers Strike on the Horizon?

05-11-2018 , 12:30 AM
I've read some reports and linked to one below.

Apparently a strike vote is to take place later this month and 50 thousand waitresses, culinary workers, housekeepers and other staff could walk off the job in early June.

For the love of all that's holy please let the two sides come to an agreement. I'm flying in on June 26th to drink, eat and gamble my face off, been looking so forward to this trip, really hope it doesn't get ****ed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/09/the-...-contract.html
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05-11-2018 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Key Guy
I've read some reports and linked to one below.

Apparently a strike vote is to take place later this month and 50 thousand waitresses, culinary workers, housekeepers and other staff could walk off the job in early June.

For the love of all that's holy please let the two sides come to an agreement. I'm flying in on June 26th to drink, eat and gamble my face off, been looking so forward to this trip, really hope it doesn't get ****ed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/09/the-...-contract.html
I hope they do get what they want or strike. And hopefully you'll still be able to enjoy Las Vegas.
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05-11-2018 , 02:46 AM
So a couple years ago most of these people were begging for jobs. Now that there is some prosperity they threaten to stop working. Like there aren't another 50 thousand people in Vegas that would love to have their jobs. They need to rewind their brains to the New Frontier strike.
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05-11-2018 , 03:17 AM
Go unions!

But that is terrible news for the WSOP because it would drastically reduce the amount of rec players in town. Plus all the temp workers that would be poker dealers might waitress instead.

If it does happen it would be smart for us all to heavily promote poker as an alternative to casino games that make the casino more money (because protesters would be out in force trying to dissuade people from patronizing casinos).
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05-11-2018 , 09:41 AM
Unions have been important in our country's history but are no longer necessary. We have plenty of employment protection laws now. If your job sucks, find a better one! Pretty simple.
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05-11-2018 , 11:26 AM
I'm staying at the Cosmopolitan end of June til 07/04. Will this affect the Cosmo? I seem to think they weren't really a union hotel but I could be wrong. I remember a few years ago a bunch of strikers in front of the Cosmo and I thought it was because they weren't union.
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05-11-2018 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by whaler55
I'm staying at the Cosmopolitan end of June til 07/04. Will this affect the Cosmo? I seem to think they weren't really a union hotel but I could be wrong. I remember a few years ago a bunch of strikers in front of the Cosmo and I thought it was because they weren't union.
In December '15

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The Culinary Workers Union Local 226 said that it and the Bartenders Union Local 165 have agreed to a four-year contract with the Cosmopolitan that includes workers in the food, beverage, housekeeping, bar and lounge, and bell departments.
So
union: yes
strike: no
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05-11-2018 , 12:19 PM
the press release from the union has a table of casinos that would be impacted by the strike
http://www.culinaryunion226.org/news...vote-on-may-22
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05-11-2018 , 12:52 PM
The South Point and other non union hotel-casinos must be licking their chops..
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05-11-2018 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
The South Point and other non union hotel-casinos must be licking their chops..
Or they are afraid to lose their workforce to those Strip hotels in need.
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05-11-2018 , 01:05 PM
It seems as if I was in Vegas when one of these was happening before. Lots of people milling about on LV Blvd with signs, but I don't recall any noticeable problems in the casinos or hotels themselves.
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05-11-2018 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Trebek's Cat

But that is terrible news for the WSOP because it would drastically reduce the amount of rec players in town. Plus all the temp workers that would be poker dealers might waitress instead.
I don't see it impacting the number of rec players. Most who were coming out already have their reservations in place. I don't see them canceling just because the sheets might not be changed every day...
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05-11-2018 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall_Cool
Unions have been important in our country's history but are no longer necessary. We have plenty of employment protection laws now. If your job sucks, find a better one! Pretty simple.
Congratulations on saying by far the most wrong thing to be said on the internet today.
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05-11-2018 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
So a couple years ago most of these people were begging for jobs. Now that there is some prosperity they threaten to stop working. Like there aren't another 50 thousand people in Vegas that would love to have their jobs. They need to rewind their brains to the New Frontier strike.
It's called leverage, and they have it. Same thing the other side uses when they have it.
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05-11-2018 , 03:02 PM
For those who don't want to click through to Canoe's link, I believe the Wynn/Encore, Venetian/Palazzo, and Cosmo are the only non-union strip places. All TR/MGM properties are potentially affected.

Some irony in the union that doesn't want me to cross picket lines potentially asking me to play at the casino with the former RNC fundraising chair's name on it, or at the property owned by one of the biggest right-wing donors...
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05-11-2018 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Congratulations on saying by far the most wrong thing to be said on the internet today.
I guess you're also a fan of mafia protection rackets and "no-show" jobs.
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05-11-2018 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
It's called leverage, and they have it.
Depends on your definition of ‘leverage’. As soon as the conversation switches from better working conditions to not losing jobs to automation, things aren’t that great.
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05-11-2018 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall_Cool
Unions have been important in our country's history but are no longer necessary. We have plenty of employment protection laws now. If your job sucks, find a better one! Pretty simple.
With automation supply of workers will greatly outpace the demand for them in the future

It will be rough for those without supreme intellect and money making skills like you, and this is most, to even have a standard of living equal to that of their grandparents

Unions are more necessary now than ever for workers to protect themselves and the lives of their families.

Capitalism inherently requires stepping on the backs of other people.

Seeking protection from this is no longer necessary?

And I don’t vote and consider myself a libertarian and have only worked a union job four months in my life 18 years ago

care about the plight of the average man
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05-11-2018 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
It's called leverage, and they have it. Same thing the other side uses when they have it.
The problem with modern unions is that they tend to only have one thing they do with that leverage.

I really don't mind if the cooks at the Bellagio said, "hey we're really good cooks, pay us more or we'll start putting out Excalibur level food."

I also don't mind all the workers at one place getting together and demanding changes that affect them all, like finding asbestos in the kitchen and having all the cooks and all the servers threaten to walk out unless it were fixed. That's originally what made unions super useful.

What I do mind - both as an employer and as a customer - is the uncertainty generated by the two sides constantly threatening nuclear warfare. If I had anything of importance on the line, I'd probably write to both management and the union and tell them I'm making emergency plans unless they announce a resolution.
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05-11-2018 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall_Cool
Unions have been important in our country's history but are no longer necessary. We have plenty of employment protection laws now. If your job sucks, find a better one! Pretty simple.
What do you think would happen if unions went away? Billionaire company owners are itching to roll back labour regulations.
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05-11-2018 , 09:10 PM
Idk. Look at the tons of states without unions. Things are going just fine
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05-11-2018 , 11:35 PM
Ok, the only thing I care about is how much is WSOP and our trips are going to be impacted If they do go on strike?
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05-12-2018 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
So a couple years ago most of these people were begging for jobs. Now that there is some prosperity they threaten to stop working. Like there aren't another 50 thousand people in Vegas that would love to have their jobs. They need to rewind their brains to the New Frontier strike.
I would cite the New Frontier as a reason the workers shouldn't be afraid to strike.
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05-12-2018 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lv2plapkr
Ok, the only thing I care about is how much is WSOP and our trips are going to be impacted If they do go on strike?
The Rio's agreement does not expire until August 1, so there's that. Wynn also has a non-expiring collective bargaining agreement.
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05-12-2018 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tall_Cool
Unions have been important in our country's history but are no longer necessary. We have plenty of employment protection laws now. If your job sucks, find a better one! Pretty simple.
Nonsense, sorry..... an enforceable contract is pretty important for protection in the workplace and for many people the only way to get one is to go union.

What law protects you from being fired at will ?

What law provides you medical benefits from your employer ?

What law protects you from an arbitrary work schedule change ?

What law protects you from a wage cut or being replaced by a cheaper worker at any moment, ....just because the employer can make an extra $1.00 per labor hour ?

Finally, where do you think those "employment protection laws" came from, and do you think they are carved in stone on two tablets ?

Sure, a lot of people who work as independent contractors can negotiate some personal protections, but no one should rely solely upon statutes.
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