Vegas left me a broken man
01-27-2020
, 09:17 PM
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This thread is an interesting read. Props to the OP for being open but I think there's a lot of misguided advice in this thread. Living in LV is really not that much different than living in other cities in the world. So, the "advice" that is being shared here doesn't serve any good purpose. It's NOT about bringing your own water to the casino, it's NOT about playing more hours, it's NOT about avoiding expensive Uber rides and all the other nonsense being spouted here.
It comes down to a couple of things:
Reading, "I should have just played the freerolls at Ballys & Harrahs" made me profoundly concerned for the OP. He just doesn't get it. You need to get the foundation of your life in order, not just pick another poker game.
It comes down to a couple of things:
- Education - go to school, have something to fall back on. Las Vegas has plenty of jobs that have nothing to do with gaming but they do require an education. A degree or the right certification will never be a negative in your life.
- Discipline - be a hard worker. OP clearly has issues with staying dedicated to a field. So the answer is not teaching English in Asia
, he'll just work 300 hours at that and call it a day, just a lot further from home. You have to have the discipline to work at your profession (whatever you choose) with the long hours and focus that it requires. - Honesty - you have to be honest with you about your skillset and your results. You have to be honest about your life leaks and all the other things that contribute to you (and only you!) fawking up. You have to be honest about whether you're actually a winning player or not and if you are really putting in the hours that the profession requires.
Reading, "I should have just played the freerolls at Ballys & Harrahs" made me profoundly concerned for the OP. He just doesn't get it. You need to get the foundation of your life in order, not just pick another poker game.
You realize it's impossible to play more hours when you are broke, right? I played as much as the BR would allow.
My mistake was never getting set up with Uber and Lyft. Should have gotten the NV license as soon as I could have once I was out there. But it's hard to get motivated to do something when you don't really like doing ir.
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01-28-2020
, 07:58 AM
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Well I guess working for 30+ years in the newspaper business doesn't mean anything to you.
You realize it's impossible to play more hours when you are broke, right? I played as much as the BR would allow.
My mistake was never getting set up with Uber and Lyft. Should have gotten the NV license as soon as I could have once I was out there. But it's hard to get motivated to do something when you don't really like doing ir.
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You realize it's impossible to play more hours when you are broke, right? I played as much as the BR would allow.
My mistake was never getting set up with Uber and Lyft. Should have gotten the NV license as soon as I could have once I was out there. But it's hard to get motivated to do something when you don't really like doing ir.
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$3k is not a massive roll but it’s certainly enough to build from, especially at lower stakes. If you busted those rolls then maybe it’s time to be honest with yourself on your poker skills. You can still be a losing player after a 331 hour sample size.
As for Uber/Lyft, that’s the first reasonable thing you’ve said in this thread. Previously you cited not playing the harrahs freerolls as your mistake
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Again another person who doesn't get it.
My goal was not to play poker professionally. Why is that hard to understand?
I moved because I wanted to. Because I expected dealing jobs to be abundant. Perhaps I suck and overrated my dealing abilities.
I wanted out of Philly winters.
My goal was not to play poker professionally. Why is that hard to understand?
I moved because I wanted to. Because I expected dealing jobs to be abundant. Perhaps I suck and overrated my dealing abilities.
I wanted out of Philly winters.
First off no faulting you for wanting away from philly winters or any east coast/northeastern winters. Second I never said anything about you playing professional I said “succeed” and ending up broke and ridden out of town on a rail but blaming it on Vegas isn’t really success now is it. Especially when in the OP you admit you failed
You sir are the one that titled your thread “Vegas left me a broken man” that suggested that you feel there is some blame to be placed on Vegas for your situation or how successful your time in Vegas was. Maybe this wasn’t your intention but I’m not the one who wrote it. Assuming that was your intention, let’s break down in your words below how Vegas somehow left you broken.
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I only made my first trip to Las Vegas 9 years ago - January of 2011. We stayed at the Imperial Palace. I played poker there exhausted and lost more thn 3/4 of the money I came with in the first six hours.
I had made annual or semi-annual trips every year until 2017 when I took a job dealing the WSOP. Mostly it was an excuse to play a lot of poker.
At the end of the summer I went back to Philadelphia to gather my stuff, pack up my car and drive cross country.
Nothing wrong here. You don’t seem to be claiming you’re a winning player or trying to be a pro you’re just a guy who loves the game and wants to be around it as much as possible.
so you got a job dealing for the summer then drove back in the fall to move to LV.
I arrived in Vegas on Oct. 3, 2017. All along I planned to deal 2-3 days a week and play 2-3 days a week. That never materialized.
I got off to a hot start and was cruising after 3 months when I hit a terrible downswing. I had started working with a coach and staker in December. It went great for 3 weeks and the next 3 months were hell. Trying to learn a new playing style was not easy. It was extremely hard. And I have an ego so that made it harder.
So you didn’t get the job thinking your heater was the norm (ego) and then needed a backer b/c you’re under rolled to be not working (and likely not good enough of a player). You couldn’t work with your backer because by your own admission you couldn’t adapt to their coaching b/c of ego (possibly also ability/skill)
I was able to get a temp dealing job on the strip in April and worked 30 hours a week through the summer. I played and played well. I managed to build up a decent little roll by early October. I think the high point was $3,300. It was a life/poker roll so not nearly enough but I never expected to be out of work long.
Again I went on a massive downswing. Throw in that I don't manage my money well - I don't waste but I didn't watch what I spent and probably ate better than I deserved - and I was broke by Nov. 1 or so. I spent the next couple of months before landing another temp dealer job in February. It waa about the time I got my tax refund which I used to play for about two months before bills and another small downswing ended that.
Underrolled, poor money management by own admission, possibly not studying nearly enough to be playing as your only income and you go busto. You keep scraping by which btw is to be commended but you’re just doing enough to just barely get by.
I worked part time and played sporadically during the summer. I left one job for another and it didn't work out. I grinded for about six weeks before a bad weekend busted me.
I should mention at this point tbat most of the poker in 2019 was played buying in for 60 BBS. I never approached it like so many others in town - those who hit and run 3 or 4 casinos in a night.
It's now January 17, 2020 and I'm leaving town.
I have a plane ticket back home in the morning. I have no idea where I'm going to live. I have no job. I have like $20 in my pocket and I'm starving.
I've been at the airport since about 2 pm Thursday. Its almost 3 am and I'm exhausted.
I don't regret moving out here. I took a shot and failed. The city will eat you up if You let it. I didn't drink or party or go to shows every week. In a way I missed out on some of the perks of living in such a great city.
The city didn’t eat you up. You are blaming the city despite all you wrote above. You took “a shot” you weren’t equipped to succeed taking. Then you ended up broke and hungry and heading back to Philly with no plan and no cash because of You, not Vegas.
But moving out alone - even though I have made some lifelong friends - in my mid 50s was dumb.
see, not equipped and as you now admit below it was on you, it wasn’t the City that ate you up at all.
If you are thinking about making the move don't let this dissuade you. Had I been smarter and not had some other issues it might have worked.
I paid $600 a month to live where I did. With people I was acquainted with. I could have found a room for $350-400 that would have suited my needs just fine.
Anyway I'll be on a plane in about 7 hours.
I failed but I lived my dream and took my shot. Now it's time to get the truck from Knish and get back to the real world.
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I had made annual or semi-annual trips every year until 2017 when I took a job dealing the WSOP. Mostly it was an excuse to play a lot of poker.
At the end of the summer I went back to Philadelphia to gather my stuff, pack up my car and drive cross country.
Nothing wrong here. You don’t seem to be claiming you’re a winning player or trying to be a pro you’re just a guy who loves the game and wants to be around it as much as possible.
so you got a job dealing for the summer then drove back in the fall to move to LV.I arrived in Vegas on Oct. 3, 2017. All along I planned to deal 2-3 days a week and play 2-3 days a week. That never materialized.
I got off to a hot start and was cruising after 3 months when I hit a terrible downswing. I had started working with a coach and staker in December. It went great for 3 weeks and the next 3 months were hell. Trying to learn a new playing style was not easy. It was extremely hard. And I have an ego so that made it harder.
So you didn’t get the job thinking your heater was the norm (ego) and then needed a backer b/c you’re under rolled to be not working (and likely not good enough of a player). You couldn’t work with your backer because by your own admission you couldn’t adapt to their coaching b/c of ego (possibly also ability/skill)
I was able to get a temp dealing job on the strip in April and worked 30 hours a week through the summer. I played and played well. I managed to build up a decent little roll by early October. I think the high point was $3,300. It was a life/poker roll so not nearly enough but I never expected to be out of work long.
Again I went on a massive downswing. Throw in that I don't manage my money well - I don't waste but I didn't watch what I spent and probably ate better than I deserved - and I was broke by Nov. 1 or so. I spent the next couple of months before landing another temp dealer job in February. It waa about the time I got my tax refund which I used to play for about two months before bills and another small downswing ended that.
Underrolled, poor money management by own admission, possibly not studying nearly enough to be playing as your only income and you go busto. You keep scraping by which btw is to be commended but you’re just doing enough to just barely get by.
I worked part time and played sporadically during the summer. I left one job for another and it didn't work out. I grinded for about six weeks before a bad weekend busted me.
I should mention at this point tbat most of the poker in 2019 was played buying in for 60 BBS. I never approached it like so many others in town - those who hit and run 3 or 4 casinos in a night.
It's now January 17, 2020 and I'm leaving town.
I have a plane ticket back home in the morning. I have no idea where I'm going to live. I have no job. I have like $20 in my pocket and I'm starving.
I've been at the airport since about 2 pm Thursday. Its almost 3 am and I'm exhausted.
I don't regret moving out here. I took a shot and failed. The city will eat you up if You let it. I didn't drink or party or go to shows every week. In a way I missed out on some of the perks of living in such a great city.
The city didn’t eat you up. You are blaming the city despite all you wrote above. You took “a shot” you weren’t equipped to succeed taking. Then you ended up broke and hungry and heading back to Philly with no plan and no cash because of You, not Vegas.
But moving out alone - even though I have made some lifelong friends - in my mid 50s was dumb.
see, not equipped and as you now admit below it was on you, it wasn’t the City that ate you up at all.
If you are thinking about making the move don't let this dissuade you. Had I been smarter and not had some other issues it might have worked.
I paid $600 a month to live where I did. With people I was acquainted with. I could have found a room for $350-400 that would have suited my needs just fine.
Anyway I'll be on a plane in about 7 hours.
I failed but I lived my dream and took my shot. Now it's time to get the truck from Knish and get back to the real world.
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But I don’t get it. I just don’t understand.
01-28-2020
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