I've heard the numbers all over the spectrum and obviously it varies wildly. I am wondering if anyone wants to share anecdotal stories or knows someone who does it and has an idea.

Assume we are talking at relatively popular Vegas Club (Marquee, XS, Hyde). What kind of money do you think a girl working there will pull in annually?

100-300k

i would say 100k as for the average. but 300k is completely plausible, i heard of single tips up to 10k. mbn

I'm not much for clubs. What do bottle service girls do? My understanding was that bottle service basically meant that you bought a bottle. Are they just who brings it to you when you order it?

I used to sell cars when I moved here. As part of the job, you have to verify employment so I saw what a lot of industry people make. I sold a car to a bottle service waitress at Drais' once. It's essenti ally a commission job with a low hourly ($10ish) and the serice team pools tips at the end of the night with individual keeps on your tables.

This particular girl made roughly 1600/week after taxes but it fluctuates a lot depending on the party.

They also pour your drinks. Other than that, they stand around your table, look hot and chat with you, if you want to and the music isn't too loud.

What percentage of cash tips are getting reported in Vegas? I've heard people in the service industry specifically talk about (non-Vegas) places that have a higher number of cash tips compared to credit cards tips, because they can't cheat on the latter one.

I would love to know this as well. MY GF works at the Monte Carlo but she only gets 3 shifts a week or so as she is new to MGM properties. I'll have her ask around. I'm sure a lot goes under the table. I've heard of Charles Barkley leaving a casino and tipping the floor $25000. I'm sure that for big payoff nights like that there's some "sweeping under the rug" that's going on.

I feel like she's almost certainly choosing not to report most of her tip income. You can't really know what they actually earn based on what they tell you. They'll only tell you enough to buy the car and they'll only tell the IRS enough not to get audited.

That's probably over $100k a year before taxes.

I remember on The American Casino show a veteran waitress worked in the high limit room and made like $250k a year. She was between 35 and 40, but still hot. The show was at Green Valley Ranch, so I can imagine the equivalent girl at Wynn or Bellagio making a lot more.

This is a pretty odd way to look at it.

If she made enough money, she wouldn't have had to apply for the auto loan at all.

And I probably wouldn't trust a cocktail waitress to determine whether or not one mighy get audited by the IRS.

Everyone seems so sure everyone else is dodging taxes, but I suspect the reality is that most people pay honestly for the same reason most people pay honestly - it's a huge ****ing hassle to keep five different sets of books just to lie about how much you make.

Whatever they report is in a line item on casino payroll checks as "tips & other wages" or some similar verbiage. Of course that number can be fudged but they are taxed on what they report. I think the highest amount I saw (not from my customer) was from a 20+ year experienced dealer who made about $7k bi-weekly after taxes. He was an older Asian guy so I am sure he was fluent in Mandarin or some other dialects. He told me that a VIP host at one of the major properties that's fluent in Chinese & some of the other Asian languages can make a half-million a year plus as they get a commission/percentage on their player's losses.

This entire thread always gets me thinking when I see a complete smoke show of a hottie working at the dollar store or a fast food drive through. I'm thinking, "don't you know you can make 5x what you're making now in this city without getting naked, just based on looks?" ......10x as much if you have to get naked for work in this town

So they are hookers, too?

Explains why so many idiots pay for "bottle service"..

"Idiots" pay for bottle service because they think "he who has the bottles, gets the ladies". Meanwhile, the "non-pros" are looking at the guys at the tables with bottle service as the guys to avoid cause they're the drunkest guys in the club and want to avoid being groped as they walk by broskis. The true "pros" look at the guys getting bottle service as $$$$.

Notice how many guys have stories about bottle service at clubs that lead to getting Vegas-rolled by an escort.

No they're not hookers. They get tables thinking they're getting laid. They invite the girls over to the table but once the booze is gone so are the girls. " It was nice meeting you guys" lol. Happened to my friends in Atlanta all the time

Whether or not she applied for an auto loan is based on what she reports on her taxes. She couldn't easily justify paying cash for a car if she's reporting an income of under $100k unless she can demonstrate she has low overhead (lives with mom and dad, her significant other makes a lot, paid off house, etc.). Of course some cheat on taxes and do such things, and then have some splaining to do when they're audited.

I suspect the percentage of people of fudge their taxes on income that's hard to trace is much higher than you realize. The hassle of multiple books is hardly a deterrent. Getting caught and paying the fines and jail time is the deterrent. And most think they won't get caught if they keep it at reasonable levels. There's a reason why the IRS requires employers to report your income.

A table is also a place for the ladies to hang out when they want to get off the floor. So having a table is a magnet for that.

The key part here is "hard to trace" and "reasonable levels."

Money laundering is super easy for small amounts. If you get $1,000 from W-2 income, it's pretty easy to pay for $100 worth of stuff in untraceable cash and live the $1,100 lifestyle while reporting $1,000.

Extrapolating this to larger scales is difficult. It's difficult to spend $10,000 cash, even when you're reporting a $100,000 income. Sooner or later you start to generate paper trails and such.

So it's exactly that people need to keep their tax cheating to "reasonable levels" that drives my analysis. Unless you're really determined to break the law and have set up infrastructure to do so, your reported income is going to be pretty close to your real income.

That's why they have to at least report tips from credit cards. That's the minimum.
Same reason why they stay at Wynn instead of Motel 6, eat their steak at Cut and not Outback and not only gamble on penny slots.
Just don't run out of booze

You still need some kind of game to pick up girls, but it's usually easier than without bottle service. At a minimum, lots of girls are willing to make out while the booze is running.

I agree it's difficult for large sums of money, but I doubt 10k is a problem if you just spend the money on immaterial stuff.

A friend of mine works at a restaurant and after almost every evening shift a group of co-workers without family head out to eat dinner at decent restaurants and then hit a bar. I joined them a couple of times, cost me around $30-50 each time. Never bothered to ask, but always assumed that's where they spend their off the book tips.

Zackly. My small hometown has the highest number of smokin' hot chicks per capita of any city I've ever been in. It's like a giant outdoor Hooters. The chick at the McDonald's drive-up window would make you weep. These girls can't wait to get out of Hicktown and dream of latching onto a PFC from the nearby military base. They represent a stable income and adventure in faraway places. Like Officer and a Gentleman except with Privates. It was funny, a friend of mine moved into town and could get no play with these girls, even with a flashy new car and 5 times a Private's salary.

I have never been to one of these places, but it boggles my mind that people tip the girls tons of money. Even if they want to get booze and a table to meet women, surely they know they aren't goingto hook up with the bottle girl. Do you have to pay her a lot ot hang around and pour your drinks? Can't just order a bottle, give the person who brings it a modest tip, then just pour it yourself and let her be on her way?

Hey!! What's wrong with Outback?? It's not like it's Sizzler!

Sounds like Annapolis

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You are charged an automatic 20% gratuity that is given to the bottle girl.

most places have mandatory auto grat of 18% (call it a service charge) then leave a ****ing tip line on top of it. super scummy.


some places use to at least stamp it like this -- but still had a tip line on it --- this was from the last day of main event after final table was set some years ago not sure what current situation is like.