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08-18-2018 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Take away labtops and iPads from people and those same people are unlikely to just start chatting it up with the other players at the table. They will probably just sit there, not say a word and have a serious look on their face.

This isn't remotely true
They'll also act a lot faster on their hands
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08-18-2018 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
There are lots of card rooms in the US that ban laptops and iPads, but are there many left that ban phones?

I can’t remember playing in a single phone-free room in at least 5 years and I doubt any casino would go back to prohibiting phones after allowing them for years. The only reason for them to do that would be to generate more rake but as I mentioned earlier, that’s not the case.
Not Las Vegas...but in Illinois I believe there is a state law banning electronic devices at the table. You cannot use a phone while seated at the poker tables at Harrah's Joliet, for instance. To text/take a phone call/surf the internet a player has to stand up and move away from the table. I've heard similar rules exist at other IL casinos.

IIRC, Harrah's Joliet opened their poker room ~2011 - no idea if this rule has been in existence since then or is a recent development.
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08-18-2018 , 01:30 PM
So, another perspective. What about folks like myself who want to sit at the card table and play a bit while watching/wagering on sporting events? I prefer the poker table to the sportsbook and I'm sure not to slow play down, but I do have my laptop open either handicapping a game or watching for a live bet opportunity.

I'm a losing player at the poker tables and if I don't slow the game down I think you'd rather look at the back of my Mac/iPad and have me at the table than not, right?
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08-18-2018 , 02:18 PM
I find phones to rarely be an issue. The tablets/laptops are the ones that show that tablet/laptop attention is first, poker attention is second.
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08-18-2018 , 03:14 PM
Visiting family in Los Angeles this weekend and I played at Hollywood Park Casino. I played 7 hours on two tables and never saw an iPad or laptop. You would see guys checking their phones and returning texts but very social games.
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08-18-2018 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
There are lots of card rooms in the US that ban laptops and iPads, but are there many left that ban phones?

I can’t remember playing in a single phone-free room in at least 5 years and I doubt any casino would go back to prohibiting phones after allowing them for years. The only reason for them to do that would be to generate more rake but as I mentioned earlier, that’s not the case.
South Dakota banned any electronics at poker tables. They went a bit overboard, like you have to get up from table to text even if you're not in hand. However, it's better to have that annoyance than the table completely distracted by people that have no clue about courtesy.
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08-18-2018 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mehaffey
South Dakota banned any electronics at poker tables. They went a bit overboard, like you have to get up from table to text even if you're not in hand. However, it's better to have that annoyance than the table completely distracted by people that have no clue about courtesy.
It's a good rule.

They dont let you look at your phone in Blackjack bc they fear cheating,they shouldn't in poker either
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08-18-2018 , 06:59 PM
At one casino in NY, if you are texting and win/lose the BBJ, it doesn't count. You will also lose your player share if texting and it gets hit on your table.
Imagine how pissed off everyone would be if you hit it and it wasn't allowed because you were texting ?

I was grateful that the dealer told me about this rule because I was the one texting. She said they will "run the tape" after each BBJ to see if anyone was texting when it hit.

Of course, they're doing this for fear of cheating, not because it slows the game down.
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08-19-2018 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
There are lots of card rooms in the US that ban laptops and iPads, but are there many left that ban phones?

I can’t remember playing in a single phone-free room in at least 5 years and I doubt any casino would go back to prohibiting phones after allowing them for years. The only reason for them to do that would be to generate more rake but as I mentioned earlier, that’s not the case.
Not in the US but in many places in Asia and Europe. Australia also IIRC, at least Sydney /NSW
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08-19-2018 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pensfan
So, another perspective. What about folks like myself who want to sit at the card table and play a bit while watching/wagering on sporting events? I prefer the poker table to the sportsbook and I'm sure not to slow play down, but I do have my laptop open either handicapping a game or watching for a live bet opportunity.

I'm a losing player at the poker tables and if I don't slow the game down I think you'd rather look at the back of my Mac/iPad and have me at the table than not, right?
The problem is that everyone thinks they are not the one to slow the game down, but everyone does.

Maybe, just maybe, you are perfect and never slow it down by a second, but I doubt you can honestly say that (even I occasionally do and I'm brilliant )
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08-19-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jelloman
At one casino in NY, if you are texting and win/lose the BBJ, it doesn't count. You will also lose your player share if texting and it gets hit on your table.
Imagine how pissed off everyone would be if you hit it and it wasn't allowed because you were texting ?

I was grateful that the dealer told me about this rule because I was the one texting. She said they will "run the tape" after each BBJ to see if anyone was texting when it hit.

Of course, they're doing this for fear of cheating, not because it slows the game down.
Sounds like Buffalo
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08-19-2018 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jelloman
At one casino in NY, if you are texting and win/lose the BBJ, it doesn't count. You will also lose your player share if texting and it gets hit on your table.
Imagine how pissed off everyone would be if you hit it and it wasn't allowed because you were texting ?

I was grateful that the dealer told me about this rule because I was the one texting. She said they will "run the tape" after each BBJ to see if anyone was texting when it hit.

Of course, they're doing this for fear of cheating, not because it slows the game down.
This is basically a tangent but arbitrary BS jackpot killers like this tilt the hell out of me.
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08-19-2018 , 03:34 PM
i never understand how these ultra nits even get any action. Whenever they raise just make an absurd comment loud enough so everyone can hear and fold your hand.

If you speak up and comment on their poor behavior maybe it would deter them from ruining the games like that.
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08-19-2018 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FWWM
Not in the US but in many places in Asia and Europe. Australia also IIRC, at least Sydney /NSW
Yup, that's why I asked specifically about the US. Can't remember seeing a single laptop at the table playing poker in Europe.

Some places have a policy that allows for phones but no larger devices. The Horseshoe in Tunica is an example for that and I remember an awkward situation about that. New guy sits down and takes out a tablet that looked like an iPad mini. Dealer told him that wasn't allowed at the table. He asked why the player next to him was allowed to use his tablet to play Candy Crush and that player told him that his device was a Galaxy Note which is like an inch smaller than the iPad mini and called 'phablet' because you can make calls with it. First guy said that his tablet has a SIM card and he can use it to make calls through apps. Dealer calls for the floor who backs him up. Then they basically agreed that the player was allowed to use his tablet to listen to music as long as he stepped away from the table to touch it. So the guy was sitting there with headphones in his ears and at least twice told the table in a loud voice that he had to step away for a second now to switch albums.
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08-19-2018 , 11:52 PM
I always find these 'generational' threads amusing. Too bad the previous generations didn't have internet because then we wouldn't be able to revisit all the wonderful things their parents were saying about them and their own 'devilish' new technologies and immoral mindsets lol.

How unfortunate that technology has improved to the point where we don't have to talk about hookers and booze just to play cards anymore. But hey, I'm sure I could find a subreddit for you where you old timers can continue to do that
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08-19-2018 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 3aces
Visiting family in Los Angeles this weekend and I played at Hollywood Park Casino. I played 7 hours on two tables and never saw an iPad or laptop. You would see guys checking their phones and returning texts but very social games.
Because what you describe is actually the norm, but these guys don't want to admit it because to do so would mean that they are just whiny anti-millenials who pine for the good ol' game.

Times change, so should they.
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08-20-2018 , 01:01 AM
personally i wish other locations would adapt what they do in Macau --- no smartphones ipads or computers while playing. you actually have to step away from the table to use your phone.

this was a much larger issue at the poker table this past month in Vegas (Aria/Bellagio/Ceasars/Venetian) compared to earlier in the year.
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08-20-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGull
I always find these 'generational' threads amusing. Too bad the previous generations didn't have internet because then we wouldn't be able to revisit all the wonderful things their parents were saying about them and their own 'devilish' new technologies and immoral mindsets lol.

How unfortunate that technology has improved to the point where we don't have to talk about hookers and booze just to play cards anymore. But hey, I'm sure I could find a subreddit for you where you old timers can continue to do that
You don't have to leave your house to play cards anymore, at least not since the turn of the century. Online poker is not exactly millennials' invention, sonny.

What this thread is about is live poker, which game benefits from social interaction during play. I get it that you are uncomfortable with direct conversation in your presence, but a subreddit echo chamber is not a substitute for live discussion..... (fwiw, maybe heard 10 live poker table conversations about "hookers and booze" in 45+ years of play, even playing at the del Rey, which has both.)
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08-20-2018 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
fwiw, maybe heard 10 live poker table conversations about "hookers and booze" in 45+ years of play, even playing at the del Rey, which has both.
Conversations about hookers and booze - or more generally, interesting conversation - helps good players, who can chat it up while recalculating ranges in the background, and hurts bad players, who would struggle with analysis even given a pencil and paper.
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08-20-2018 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGull
I always find these 'generational' threads amusing. Too bad the previous generations didn't have internet because then we wouldn't be able to revisit all the wonderful things their parents were saying about them and their own 'devilish' new technologies and immoral mindsets lol.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates
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08-21-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
It really depends what people would do if you took away their iPad/laptop/phone. People may play just as badly but faster (which is good), or they may pay more attwntion to the game (which is bad). They may just remain antisocial and glare creepily at people (which is bad), or they may tell you about their sports betting habits (which is good).

A highly respected player might be playing in a higher limit game where he's fighting with other pros constantly, he wants them distracted. Whereas a casual player who only plays on weekends may rather people get bored and leave so they can be replaced with tourists.
Exactly.

I want the tough regulars in my game engrossed into their phones/tablets because they aren't making adjustments to table dynamics or picking up signals on who is folding behind them which caused them to play fairly standard (but obviously still miles ahead of the next group).

I want the loose players to not have anything that distracts them. Distractions give them a reason to tighten up. A few years ago someone said the worst thing that happened to our 20 game was Candy Crush, because the loosest spewiest regular was playing that nonstop while at the table and probably tightened up by ~20%.
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08-23-2018 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SenatorKevin
At least they'll fold quicker. It's getting worse every year and makes it drives casual players nuts.
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Originally Posted by borg23
This isn't remotely true
They'll also act a lot faster on their hands
Well I guess it’s possible they might give some bad beat stories or something. Personally I’ve never had much of an issue with how fast (or slow) they act. In my experiences they are usually just tight regs and they tend to make only one decision per hand which is to fold PF.

The only people that annoy me by being too slow are the inexperienced players, or the players that tank a lot (and they often are inexperienced).
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08-23-2018 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGull
I always find these 'generational' threads amusing. Too bad the previous generations didn't have internet because then we wouldn't be able to revisit all the wonderful things their parents were saying about them and their own 'devilish' new technologies and immoral mindsets lol.

How unfortunate that technology has improved to the point where we don't have to talk about hookers and booze just to play cards anymore. But hey, I'm sure I could find a subreddit for you where you old timers can continue to do that
Complete and utter nonsense
Those new technologies didn't destroy poker games

If you go to a poker room people shouldn't have to wait for you to act bc you're watching Netflix.

People also shouldn't destroy their own games by being antisocial.
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08-24-2018 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates
-Old Person
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08-25-2018 , 04:48 PM
Yeah, Socrates is pretty damn old. Was pretty wise too.
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