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11-14-2017 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Leon,


Why do you play at the Wynn? Wouldn't a place like Red Rock give you much more love for your level of play?
guessing it's a combo of his parent's play, his play, and the proximity to his parent's condo.

I believe he's mentioned before ITT how he's been boosted by the level of his dad's play and tagging along.
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11-15-2017 , 08:18 AM
yeah leon has mentioned before that he really got a host due to his parents, and as his play increased, so did his personal level of comps. Also, it's kind of like asking "Why not play at El Cortez? They'd give you whatever you want for your level of play!" Some people just like the casino they like. The Wynn doesn't suck.

There's also nothing wrong with a little loyalty to the host who hooked you up when you were a low roller now that you're playing bigger
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11-15-2017 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
yeah leon has mentioned before that he really got a host due to his parents, and as his play increased, so did his personal level of comps. Also, it's kind of like asking "Why not play at El Cortez? They'd give you whatever you want for your level of play!" Some people just like the casino they like. The Wynn doesn't suck.

There's also nothing wrong with a little loyalty to the host who hooked you up when you were a low roller now that you're playing bigger
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Leon,


Why do you play at the Wynn? Wouldn't a place like Red Rock give you much more love for your level of play?
There's a few reasons. First and foremost, it's the only place my parents play. At this point, all their comp is there, the staff know them (very helpful in terms of watching out for my dad, pulling chairs/setting him up with scooters, etc). While I may have had the luxury before of playing elsewhere, at this point all MY comp is there too, so it doesn't make sense to give another place action/spread it around unless the games are that much better elsewhere.

In that regard, the Wynn actually isn't a bad place to play at 1$ credits and above, esp as a TDB player. Multiple full pay machine and different variants.

Finally, I'll confess you get used to the luxury. It's a nice place. Everything above avg to amazing. At this point, I'm old enough to realize that we all have a limited time on this earth and we have no idea when it will end. I'd like to enjoy my time as much as possible- so would I rather subject myself to a 3.99 buffet w/ all the downtown clientele, or live it up as much as I can? Given RFB is taken care of, I'll go the latter every time.
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11-15-2017 , 10:53 AM
Clearly the strip is the place to be for fun. Downtown is ok to spend a day down there of you 7 day trip but the casinos aren't much different that your local casino.
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11-15-2017 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by leon
so would I rather subject myself to a 3.99 buffet w/ all the downtown clientele, or live it up as much as I can? Given RFB is taken care of, I'll go the latter every time.
Yea, but just think, with your level of play, they'd probably comp you like, TWO $3.99 buffets.
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11-15-2017 , 03:42 PM
Part of Day 3

My friend is scheduled to leave at 9pm tonight. However, with the Rock and Roll Marathon messing things up, he's going to head to the airport around 6pm just to be safe. He also rented a car which he has to return so I think that's playing it safe. We literally have nothing on the agenda except gambling- no dining reservations, etc. This could be great, or super painful...

I wake up around 6:30- since I went to bed before midnight, this is almost a decent amount of sleep. Head downstairs, grab coffee and play. I was contemplating ordering room service right there and then, but bc my friend presumably went to bed at a decent time as well in my mind there's a fair chance he'll get up at a good hour and we can grab breakfast together.

The pre-breakfast session is more of the same ice. The only good part is I forced myself to play slowly and only lost 1k. I head back upstairs, get cleaned up and write up the rest of Day 1 of this TR. Order breakfast- friend still isn't up. Finally after I eat I wake him up so we can get this day going.

We partner up on 10-play. I'm getting pretty desperate, and since I've missed so many draws this trip I figure if we happen to get any we need to maximize our shots to hit something.



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OK, keep it coming.



Not unhappy with the result obv, but it is just unbelievable how seemingly easy it is to turn a non-premium pair into quads.



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Despite the initial flurry, the session ends up basically like all the rest and I think we're barely up afterwards. He goes to play slots, I scale back to 5 play and start hitting draw after draw, of course...



So close yet so far.



Result-

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I think I had a few more good draws in there as well that I didn't even snap a pic of. I of course hit none of them. So sick, and obv a disastrous result for the roll. It's well past lunch but I'm not hungry and neither is my friend. We decide to aim for a late lunch (2pm, which ended up being after 3pm). Disgusted with TDB, I switch to deuces wild bonus.

Gotta run right now- rest of update coming soon...
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11-15-2017 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by leon
There's a few reasons. First and foremost, it's the only place my parents play. At this point, all their comp is there, the staff know them (very helpful in terms of watching out for my dad, pulling chairs/setting him up with scooters, etc). While I may have had the luxury before of playing elsewhere, at this point all MY comp is there too, so it doesn't make sense to give another place action/spread it around unless the games are that much better elsewhere.

In that regard, the Wynn actually isn't a bad place to play at 1$ credits and above, esp as a TDB player. Multiple full pay machine and different variants.

Finally, I'll confess you get used to the luxury. It's a nice place. Everything above avg to amazing. At this point, I'm old enough to realize that we all have a limited time on this earth and we have no idea when it will end. I'd like to enjoy my time as much as possible- so would I rather subject myself to a 3.99 buffet w/ all the downtown clientele, or live it up as much as I can? Given RFB is taken care of, I'll go the latter every time.
Cool. For the record i said Red Rock, not the 4 Queens/El Cortez.


I do understand that Wynn is >>> Red Rock.
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11-15-2017 , 06:12 PM
Red Rock has some really cool games and is pretty nice. The super triple bonus is great and some of the gimmicky VP variants.
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11-15-2017 , 06:12 PM
Pulling for you to get that dealt four aces Leon!!!
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11-15-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by leon
We partner up on 10-play. I'm getting pretty desperate, and since I've missed so many draws this trip I figure if we happen to get any we need to maximize our shots to hit something.
Translation from degen-ese to English:
I've been losing when I bet smaller, so I'm going to bet bigger!

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11-15-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
A sign of Southwest's success. They built Terminal C just for them and they outgrew it just a few years later.
Not surprised they outgrew it. SW flies more people to Vegas than all of the other airlines combined. At least that was the case a few years ago.
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11-15-2017 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Cool. For the record i said Red Rock, not the 4 Queens/El Cortez.


I do understand that Wynn is >>> Red Rock.
Yeah, I was merely comparing one end of the spectrum with the other.
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11-15-2017 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Translation from degen-ese to English:
I've been losing when I bet smaller, so I'm going to bet bigger!

You clearly speak my language
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11-15-2017 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by leon
We partner up on 10-play. I'm getting pretty desperate, and since I've missed so many draws this trip I figure if we happen to get any we need to maximize our shots to hit something.
Would it be better to play two machines adjacent to each other and both do 5 lines, instead of one machine and 10 lines? More options for draws in a short session?
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11-16-2017 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drbeechwood
Would it be better to play two machines adjacent to each other and both do 5 lines, instead of one machine and 10 lines? More options for draws in a short session?
6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other I think. Option A gives twice as many deals, option B gives twice as many draws per deal. Option A I think is better if in general you run "good deal poor", option B is obv better if you're "good deal rich".

Functionally option A is no different than playing 1 machine, 5 lines, but twice as fast.
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11-16-2017 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by leon
6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other I think. Option A gives twice as many deals, option B gives twice as many draws per deal. Option A I think is better if in general you run "good deal poor", option B is obv better if you're "good deal rich".

Functionally option A is no different than playing 1 machine, 5 lines, but twice as fast.
Right, that makes sense, but now you have two people playing/pushing buttons instead of one. Possibly more interesting? If you can get two good machines in close proximity...
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11-16-2017 , 11:55 AM
Leon ever go with hundred play? It’s tough to find a machine with a decent pay schedule.
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11-16-2017 , 01:19 PM
Leon would know better than I do but I'm not aware of a decent 100 play game for quarters at the Wynn that would make this viable from an EV standpoint. He's playing games that generally have a 99.4% or better return in full pay TDB, 9/7 Ultimate X Triple Double Bonus, and full pay Bonus Deuces Wild.

Leon - do you have an estimate on the payout for 9/7 TDB w UX? It seems like it would be at or over 100% on a multiline game unless they rig down something else like the Ultimate X multipliers based upon the payouts I've seen for 9/6 TDB with UX.

The variance on that has to be shoot yourself in the dick crazy, though. And you have to play it differently than the base game to account for the multipliers.
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11-16-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Translation from degen-ese to English:
I've been losing when I bet smaller, so I'm going to bet bigger!

Plus, the less you bet the more you lose when you win
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11-16-2017 , 02:56 PM
Hey Leon, your last entry said the next one would be "soon" and where I come from soon means less than 23 hours.........

Sincerely,
A die-hard, and impatient, fan of your TRs
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11-16-2017 , 03:02 PM
Leon would love to see you get a set up like thebigjackpot in YT. He must make great money through that channel and he just pushes buttons. There is nothing for video poker players on YouTube.
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11-16-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RunninCM
Leon ever go with hundred play? It’s tough to find a machine with a decent pay schedule.
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
Leon would know better than I do but I'm not aware of a decent 100 play game for quarters at the Wynn that would make this viable from an EV standpoint. He's playing games that generally have a 99.4% or better return in full pay TDB, 9/7 Ultimate X Triple Double Bonus, and full pay Bonus Deuces Wild.

Leon - do you have an estimate on the payout for 9/7 TDB w UX? It seems like it would be at or over 100% on a multiline game unless they rig down something else like the Ultimate X multipliers based upon the payouts I've seen for 9/6 TDB with UX.

The variance on that has to be shoot yourself in the dick crazy, though. And you have to play it differently than the base game to account for the multipliers.
No decent > 10 line machines at WynnCore from what I can see. Nothing decent at 25c level, period. My dad hit 40k on a 100 line machine for dimes when he was dealt 4 awak- that was 9/5 TDB! Even the 25 line machine in hi limit, smallest credit denom is 1$, is 9/6. Blech.

No estimate on 9/7 TDB UX. My assumption is like you, with "perfect" play (which is probably unknowable/not possible) it's probably better than the base game. I assume I play at slightly worse than the base game (since I don't know all the proper holds), but that it's still a good game. And yes, the variance is a *****. The money goes SO FAST at UX when you don't hit. Feast or famine...

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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
Hey Leon, your last entry said the next one would be "soon" and where I come from soon means less than 23 hours.........

Sincerely,
A die-hard, and impatient, fan of your TRs
Coming later today brother. I had a busy day yesterday.
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11-16-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RunninCM
Leon would love to see you get a set up like thebigjackpot in YT. He must make great money through that channel and he just pushes buttons. There is nothing for video poker players on YouTube.
I alluded to this earlier ITT and I think it would be a nice viewing experience. But I think the Vegas properties that are livestream video-friendly pretty much begin and end with Cosmo.
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11-16-2017 , 03:31 PM
Leon,

Based upon your photos, it looks to me like they have notched the flush multiplier down from 10x to 9x (when compared to the standard TDB Ult X multipliers used on 9/6/4 TDB that make it a better game than the base TDB). It's is very close to the base game once you account for this from an expected return standpoint. This is consistent with what I've seen for TDB at other casinos that offer UX on the full pay game. It's basically a way to make TDB be much more volatile for the same EV, as I posted before.

The basic strategy I calculated at the wizard of odds is pretty insane, though. Lol. Just like the base game, having a flush paying 7 creates a mess. Then you add the multipliers on top. The exceptions to basic strategy are comprehensive, too. This has to be an extremely difficult game to play perfectly.
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11-16-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
I alluded to this earlier ITT and I think it would be a nice viewing experience. But I think the Vegas properties that are livestream video-friendly pretty much begin and end with Cosmo.
Yes I saw it mentioned up thread. I see that the slot guy films at Red Rock. It would be infinitely better than the slot videos. Google glass would be perfect for it.

Jason Belmonte bowled a game wearing google glasses which was cool.
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