I could be wrong, but with more time left in Vegas and more bankroll left, I dont think he ever seriously considered quitting.

But yeah, its still awesome to see such a sick win streak.

You might mean that several ways, and I agree regardless.

In general, we come to Vegas so often that I can't use every trip to just go nuts from a health standpoint. That is doubly true when the kids come- already, we eat far more gluten/sugar in Vegas than on a normal basis, and I can see the effects on my kids almost immediately. Whiny, acting out, etc- basically all the annoying behavior typical of kids that often is a function of just too much sugar. Plus, we're taking a cruise in a week, we're always going to Disneyland or a birthday party, etc... so I don't want to just let myself go completely.

From a cost and ease for my dad perspective, it doesn't make sense to eat anywhere else other than the Wynn. Unfortunately, that means we eat at the same restaurants all the time and anything gets old. That's part of the reason I often forget to take pics- eventually everything blurs together and it's like "is this the 6th or 7th time I ordered this"? We're also limited in the number of places that will let kids come in.

I'd love to hit some of the other nice places in town (eg, Joel Robuchon, my wife and I ate there a few years ago- one of the most sublime meals I've ever had but it cost 1k!!!), but it's hard to justify that expense when we could be getting comped at the Wynn and I need the money for the machines

Question for a baller like yourself, and your pops, who get RFB comp from Wynn.

Say you go crazy and starting order large amounts of Kobe Beef, $100 Gold desserts, bottles of top shelf liquor, etc. for every meal, does the Wynn audit that and could they cut you off from the comp RFB, even though you both are putting a ton of coin in the machines?

I would think others don't have the self-control you have when it comes to taking advantage of their comps.

That's what I thought the other poster meant by "nit", though I could be wrong..

Never quit. I had a decent chunk deposited in our bank from previous wins and was prepared to hit the atm if needed.

I'm sure they would. It's all about the bottom line- at some point, anyone is going to generate more cost than benefit and at that point they're no better to the corporation than a bum off the street.

In my case, we know they won't cover everything past a certain point (see Aug TR). My parents haven't reached that point and they probably never will since they basically don't drink and aren't extravagant. Honestly it's hard to use up that much comp from just food and room- at some point, you get full, and the room is basically a fixed cost. Alcohol is where you can really hurt yourself, but we're good there.

Does the comp cover tips to the wait staff at the restaurants or does the casino make you pay that out of pocket. Or does it depend on how big you are tipping?

Tips aren't included. I've never seen that and it would be pretty easy to set up a scam that way.

You could eat better than you're having at the wynn for less money than the tips you're spending on their meals tbh.

No doubt. I've read your website a bit and really would like to try some of your recs- the dad factor is the main issue.

There are outfits that deliver to hotel rooms.

I'll definitely have to look into that then.

Chada is on Uber eats.

Day 3

I go to bed around midnight, and wake up just past 6. After getting less than 5 hrs of sleep the night before, I guess six is like a win. I head down for my usual coffee and play.

I start with 10 play TDB since I ran so well the day before. The VERY FIRST HAND, I pick up-



Man, I am just crushing this trip.

Result-


After that, the machine doesn't give me anything. I think I lost 2k in about 30 min. No matter, I'm so far up from yesterday that it's all good. I go play some UX by myself and no **** lose another 2k in about 10 min. WTF. OK, now I'm getting a little upset. My dad texts and he's up- I grab him and we head down. I should never have played UX without him and got duly punished. We partner up and get several good draws, but nothing comes in. I think we hit a few minor things- I know I ended the session with him getting 1k back, so I'm stuck 3k pre-breakfast.

We all meet up for room service in my parents' room. I get a standard omelet (no pics). My mom is planning on taking the kids to NYNY again- they'd rather do that than Circus Circus. They're going to stay until lunch and then come back and either hit room service or go to Charlie's. My dad is going to get some work done, and the nanny and I are going to play. Then, we take my dad over to the ballroom for the slot tournament. He's scheduled to play at 1pm so we're going to go over around noon and grab the food offered there.

I decide to slow it down a bit and play 5-play.



Which of course misses. Keep playing. Keep losing. Finally pick up a real royal draw!



Result-


Jesus. I'm down another 3k for -6k on the day. My nanny finds me and he's getting crushed too. I suggest we partner up to slow things down and give him a chance to put some action in on a full pay machine- the biggest denom he can play is quarters and all the paytables at the Wynn are crap. We go in for 1k total, he's got 20%. We switch off every hundred dollar bill, and plan on cashing out any time we hit 200 or more. We've had good results partnering up in the past on blackjack and one session of VP, so I'm hopeful.

The 1k lasts 5 min.

Good god. I actually feel worse for my nanny than myself. He doesn't have much money. He wanders off and I switch to 10 play, telling myself I'll give him half of the next jackpot I hit to help him out. Good karma should get rewarded.

NOT. I just get drilled. I'm down ANOTHER 2k, for -9k so far and it's not even lunch. FINALLY, I pick up a monster draw-



And proceed to whiff all 10 spots. Time to go get my dad- I'm stuck almost 10k so far.

We head over to the ballroom with plenty of time to spare. The tournament is 10k buy in, 31 runners. Top prize is 200k, then 40k. Down to 8th place gets cash and profit (15k prize so 5k profit), then it's 5k free credit, going on down. So it's super top-heavy, but there's only 31 runners... you never know. Knowing my dad, if he binks the 200k I'm sure he's going to share the love.



Which of these machines is going to make a winner?





Food- utterly forgettable. Caesar salad (4/10), jerk chicken (4/10) and tomatoes and mozzarella (3/10) on the left. Penne pasta with short rib (5/10) on the right, the only thing remotely worth eating.

We've got about 20 min before the round starts. Both my nanny and I are former smokers, and we periodically smoke in Vegas bc, well, Vegas right? So we decide to head back to the casino real quickly for a cigarette. I of course stick the 400$ ticket I had on me into a spin poker TDB machine and lose it all in 5min, so I'm now stuck a cool 10k on the day. Head back to the tournament.



Dad, about to play round 1.

Format is typical- 3 rounds, highest two count. Each round is 10 min long, so the top scores tend to be around 90k. For the first round, my dad posts an utterly forgettable 60k or so, which is just above avg. I see several scores of 85k+.

My dad wants me to play the second round- I want my nanny to have a shot. I've played in these before and meh- why not give him a chance to experience it? I ask my dad if he'll let both me and the nanny play, but he wants to play his third round, so I give the second round to my nanny.

He also posts a score around 60k. Again, there are several 80-90k scores, including a guy who also got a top score in the first round. Well, I think we've found someone who has a shot at the winner! Meanwhile, barring a miracle third round, there's no way my dad is going to win this thing.

My dad plays the third round- he starts off slowly, but proceeds to just rattle off jackpots. He finishes with 82k which is 4th in the round. One guy literally nipped him by a few hundred on the last push (my nanny saw it)- the guy got some random combination which was just a few hundred pts higher than my dad's, and there you have it.

Man, ok, well we know he's not winning, but maybe he can place as low as 8th and still make some money. We meet up with my mom, and my nanny decides to just hang out in the room with the kids. I play more with my dad.

We head to hi limit and it's crowded, so we go to the UX machine on the floor with no sound.



I took this pic just bc of the absurdity. Non premium quads on the redraw.



Which of course misses. A few hands later,





Come on already!

We had a few more draws which I didn't bother to take a picture of, and all of which missed. My dad needs to head up to the room at 5pm to get ready for dinner- we're eating at SW steakhouse at 6pm. So I take him up, stuck 15k on the day. I should get ready and just chill before dinner- playing more is unlikely do anything but generate more loss.

BUT, I'm on tilt and only need 5 min to get ready. Grab more money and head downstairs again.

I continue to get drilled. I lose another 2k. Now stuck 17k. DUMBDUMBDUMBDUMB!

We head to the steakhouse, which allows children 6 and up. Sorry no pics- I got the snow beef Rib cap which was an 8/10; kids split a "fish and chips" which was actually some lightly breaded halibut and crispy potatoes- solid dish, also an 8/10. Nanny got a regular steak and my parents got Kobe. We got brussel sprouts (6/10), truffle creamed corn (7/10) and creamed spinach (6/10) as sides.

I went ahead and got a greyhound- man, I need to get this run good back! I curse myself for not getting a greyhound in the beginning of the trip. Dessert is the cherry bread pudding (8/10) and funnel cake with caramel, chocolate and creme anglaise dipping sauce (8/10).

After dinner, I head upstairs to put my kids to bed, then give another shot with my dad. Make that 3 shots- we plow in 6k total and don't get ANYTHING. These machines are ice cold. I cannot believe I am EVEN for the trip again after being up almost 20k. Just such a sick, cold day. I decide to give my regular machines another shot, esp bc just yesterday it dealt me the quad 3s which started the rescue.

Play for a few min- say what?



QUAD THREES DEALT AGAIN!

Hold hold hold hold, draw and pray...


Dang. OK, it'll have to do.

So now I have a little life again. I head back to hi-limit and partner with my dad again.



Sure, make non-premium quads on 8x.



Sure, make premium quads on no multiplier.

We must have gotten dealt trip aces at least 5x and 4 to a royal once, but never got anything from those. Overall, it is still chilly as hell. I decide to stop at midnight again- I wish I could just erase this day completely. This time 24hrs ago, I went to bed up 20k, with huge stacks in the safe. Now, I'm barely up.

Day 3 result- -17k
Overall- +3k

To be continued...

Forgot to post tourney result- My dad came in NINTH which was 5k free credit. One spot higher and he gets 15k cash, and profits.

wow slot tourneys are ridiculously top heavy. that's frustrating to profit bubble like that. i guess it's better than nothing since the first two heats were terrible.

...awaiting next installment impatiently

Never underestimate the rungood power of a greyhound..

I dunno man- I know the history and where the legend comes from, but my results are no better than random (as, logically, we know they should be). I've had great results w/ and w/out. Terrible w/ and w/out as well.

I think next trip I am going to force myself to open with a greyhound every day. I have no interest in alcohol and try and limit my unhealthy calories, but if that's what it takes... if I run bad that trip we'll know for sure there's no need to ever get another one

But if you get dealt a royal, you're going to become an alcoholic.

Raise your hand if you click on LVL, see that the last post is from Leon, get giddy, then feel beyond dejected when you notice the up-down bar on the right of the screen is the same size as before, meaning he was just replying to a post rather than adding the next installment of the TR.

Needless to say, loving this as usual Leon. But wow - those swings!

Just a post of appreciation for the write ups. Thanks, and best of luck, leon.

It's really sick how context warps one's happiness for low rollers, high rollers, and everyone in between. If you would have known before your trip that after 3 days you'd be up 3k, you'd probably be pretty happy with that. But after being up $20k, you don't see it as being up $3k, you see it as being down $17k.

Like even a low roller like me, if I come out of Vegas with +$200, but I was up $1,200 at one point, I'd feel pretty pissed. But if I come out of Vegas -$200 but I was down $1,200 at one point, I'd be totally ok with that.

Totally. My last trip was like that- booked a loser, but the circumstances made it feel like a winner.

Timing, circumstance etc matter a ton too- the best example I can think of is when I was dealt 4 aces in Jan 2016 and made no kickers, 5 ways. I was super pissed- but had I made 4 aces back to back over 5 hands I might have been lamenting lack of kickers, but overall I'd be happy with the result.

I just went through this exact rollercoaster.

This is called being "upstuck" and it is one of the worst feelings.

It really is awful, and why it kept my gambling wins low and losses big.

And to this day makes me lock up (marginal to good) wins in good poker games.

hand raised.

ty for sharing this leon