I totally know that feeling.


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It seems strange but I feel that way even with different machines. I can put a $20 into a slot, play it, and when that's gone, I can get up and leave, no problem.


I put $20 into a VP machine, lose it, and suddenly a couple hours of monkey tilt later it's $500 gone and I don't even realize what happened. VP is the devil.

It's a progressive, which are never full pay, or even very close.

I have a friend that's a blackjack player. He asked me how big a typical win at the poker table might be. I told him maybe half a buy-in unless you run really hot. He said "Is that all?" in obvious disappointment.

And those cold streaks really put thoughts in your mind like 'maybe a different machine will turn things around', or 'this particular machine might actually be rigged', or 'maybe i've won too much with my player's card and they doomswitched my account - I should take it out so I can win a little bit.'


Sigh.

I got 9 lives.. Cat size ...
Angus Y.

First, I would like to thanks all my fans


Last two weekends ...

They still have Walking Dead at Winstar

I hit the major with 3X







I got quad deuces with 5X but my battery died. That was like $1250 handpay on 5 line deuces wild UX.

I was getting a these 4 to a Royal both Saturday nights. Seem like I got a half dozen. All misses.



These helped





I did Hit 3 Random Royals .. Two with in 10 min of each other. Here is one of them. It put back in black And saved me from jumping off the bridge into the Red River.





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BINK

Now that's SEXEEEEEEE.

Thanks to all posting, to keep the thread going.

Funny. I'm a (former) poker player who thinks nothing of dumping thousands in a VP machine, but still remembers losing several thousand in one hand of poker way back in 2002 (3 of us flopped the nut straight, runner runner flush for the scoop. Biggest pot I've ever played, 5/5 PLHE no less) and I still feel sick about it.

BINK!

I play nickels ten play double double bonus, ultimate X

I frequently lose $1,000 within 2 hours.

That is 20K at $1. Would be 10K without the ultimate x feature.

Reading this thread, I am amazed Leon has not had worse stretches.

Maybe I'm a moosh. But, I play for several hours at double double and don't get near the draws he seems to make.

Your comparison is not entirely accurate, though.
- the vast majority of my play was on full pay machines while I've never heard of full pay UX at nickels
- I tended to play 25-50 credits per iteration while your game is 100 with the UX feature, meaning your coin in per push is at least double
- my guess is 10 play UX which I basically never played variance > vs 10 play full pay TDB

The variance issue is probably the biggest one. What's the biggest score I could make at regular old 10 play? 4000 x 10? But at UX it's 12x multipliers x 4000 x 10 lines? So that positive variance lightning bolt is factored into the overall EV, meaning the negative variance is also potentially ridiculous.

One way or the other, VP all end up broke and/or dead anyways. Only choice is the particular flavor of poison

Wait - are you saying there's a limit to the variance you will accept??!?

WTF!!! Another Royal - 3rd weekend now (4 royals in last 3 weekend)!!! Yeahhhhh!!!!

Given the paytable change I wondered. It looked like you were playing 9/6 DDB earlier at Double Big Wheel??? This at Winstar?

FYI, Double Big Wheel pisses me off. It adds less than 0.01% return to the base game.

Yeah I was bouncing around different games. It was at Choctaw. I walked into VIP lounge Friday night and asked for room and they said np . I had not even played there in a year. I thought I got em but then I increased my bet size.

That VIP host was smart. That room cost me $1300

I guess their computer flags them "TRUE DEGEN"

I think im going take a break like The OGs (Leon and Trooper)

Leon, Borgagta has 9-5 Double Double Bonus Ultimate X for nickles.

Certainly not full pay, but pretty good.

$1,000 goes poof from time to time. Given your volume and more high variance game, even with better pay table, surprised you didn't poof 20K from time to time in first 3-4 hours.

I mean, Ultimate X is all about the multiplier, but still. have had 60,000 negative streaks over several hours before 20,000 + unit streak. Maybe I just suck. Typically follow Wizard of Odds tips.

Took a little trip to the local today as my dad is in town... boink.



Really needed this.



Ran pretty hot today overall, only thing that was lacking were 4AWAK. I think I made 4 royals and had a few other handpays as well, played a ton and ended up locking up a 14k win. Even got to experience the entire casino losing power for a few sec and having to wait for the machines to reboot- spoiler, it didn't hit me with a dealt royal on the reboot.

Or hit you a royal just before the power went down. That would have been devastating...

Ahh but that would have counted. Every machine came back up under the exact same conditions as before. I'm sure they would have REALLY examined the machine had I been dealt a royal, then power goes out, before paying me, but pretty sure I still get paid.

Of course, the "malfunction voids all pays" clause could be used to screw me as well.

Wow, 9/5 DDB for nickels is really good. I csm think of only one place where I've seen that. The Linq. But that was over 5 years ago and long gone now. Yeah 99% of the time you'd be fine. Memory on those is pretty good.

I would think you would get paid under that scenario unless whatever caused the power outage had also impacted the machine prior to the outage.

Understand I am not an attorney.

Nice. Are you a golfer?
Or do you use all the Barona benefits for the steakhouse and weekend “getaways”?

Nah. I'm sure I leave value on the table as far as Barona is concerned but I have no desire to use more than I do. I don't pay for food there of course, but since it's my "home" casino and the food isn't that good it's not like I'm going to make a special outing there just to eat. I'll grab take out for the family periodically, I've done the steakhouse a few times, that's about it. No need for a room bc once I'm done playing honestly I'd rather go home.

I did manage to set up something with my host for monthly cashback in addition to the normal monthly mailers, etc so at least I'm getting some value there.

Borgata is lousy with free play. Harrah's gives me much better.

Room rates I typically do better at Harrah's, but given my volume (not as much as Leon's), I do way better at Borgata due to pay tables.

Really is a very good place to play video poker on the East Coast.

Even some 9-6 machines at the B Bar.