Haven't been there in a while but there's no reason it doesn't still have that potential. 10x odds, crapless craps option, sometimes 5$ minimum... only reason I stopped playing there was when we started to get good comps at the Wynn.

I had a picture from this weekend grinding VP during breaks of a poker tournament.

10 play UX .25 denom. Dealt trips, turns into 8 trips and 2 full houses. Dealt 444xx the next hand. Bink off 44424 on the 12x slot.



I think the picture would have sent leon into catalytic shock seeing premium quads on a 12x only pay out 1500 credits. Only way I can rationalize it is that if I was playing TDB I would have busted my buyin long before that spot ever comes.

Day 6, final day

I have one goal today- don't donk back too much money. I managed to sleep in until... 8 am! Shocked, and likely due to a combo of the sleep aid and cumulative fatigue. Order a room service breakfast for later and head downstairs.

Pick up a good draw right away- will I complete the white whale trifecta this trip?



Result-


Unfortunately, things really cool off after that. I'm down almost 2k on the day, and I had mentally only earmarked 3k total. Someone sits down next to me just as I pick up another good draw- for whatever reason, I got uncomfortable taking a before pic, but luckily I got a good after one to show-



OK good. Even for the day again.

Back upstairs, eat, pack. I'm planning on playing until I have to checkout, then head to the condo and grab lunch with my mom and chill with her for a few hrs until I have to head to the airport. It's now or never for 4 AWAK!

The white whale trifecta?



Close...





Not aces but I do need bullets...

Result-


Switch to 10 play for a bit (stupid, I know)...



I must have missed because I didn't take an after pic. Come to my senses after playing 500$ thru rapidly. Back to 5 play.



Close, again!

Result-


And finally...



Christ come on.

Time for a story. I get dealt the above hand. About to draw, when two idiots come up and start having an argument literally 2 feet from me. As near as I can tell, one guy is pissed bc a third friend ditched them at a strip club last night; this first guy "is just done", he's "not that kind of guy" and isn't going to put up with it anymore, and "he's leaving for the airport right now". Second guy is trying to convince first guy to calm down, don't leave, it's not that big of a deal, don't ruin the trip, etc. Rinse, repeat.

I immediately realize this is bad juju and I'm not drawing while they have their argument. I am going to wait this out. This is probably the last good draw I'm getting this trip anyways, and I'd like to end on a high note- I'm stuck 2k for the day again and a 4k hit would be a sweet parting gift.

I wait. They keep having the SAME STUPID ARGUMENT. I wait a true 5 min and they're not going anywhere. I get in this weird spot where you figure, you've waited this long, might as well wait some more. So I do. And they keep saying the same stupid crap. Now 10 min have gone by- I know I'm committed, since I waited this long if I draw now and miss I'm going to be SO pissed. In for a penny, in for a pound.

I check my email. Respond to emails. Text my wife. Text my mom. And they KEEP TALKING. I swear that guy must have said he's "leaving for the airport" at least 50 times. I started muttering under my breath, "so F UC K ing LEAVE already!!!!" but they never do. And still my aces sit there, waiting...

Play a game on my phone. Check email again. It's now been a true 30 min, an agonizing, never-ending 30 min and I am on serious rage tilt. If there was a way I could have murdered these two idiots and gotten away with it I would have. Finally, it's 11:45- I NEED to check out! This is ridiculous. They take 1/2 a step away from me but continue the argument. I decide that's as good as it's going to get and hit draw...

Result-


OMFG so pissed. These idiots and their stupid, never ending cyclical argument about a third di ckhead who isn't even there! Even thinking about it now makes me mad. Did they make me miss? Yes and no. Obv they had no influence on the result. And yet, they DID because I waited because of them. Everything about the exact time I pushed that button (and missed) was because of them.

I'm so mad I could spit bullets. I rage switch to 10 play and fire in another 500$ in 1 min. I'm just mashing buttons as fast as I can, hoping against hope I'll get dealt 4 awak and make up for this ridiculous 30 min waste of my life.

It's not to be. I just dumped another 500, down 2.5k now. I fly out of my machine and upstairs. Check out online (takes 1 min, total damage lol 26$ for 5 nights thanks to my host) and am back downstairs soon after. The idiots have moved on. FMLLLLASDNIANSDASDANSDND

With that, I head to the condo. It takes me a true hour to calm down. My mom has her curry chicken prepared but I can't eat it- it would be a total waste with how angry I am. I wait it out, finally calm down enough and have lunch. Afterwards, we head to the airport. I get through security lightning-fast and have time to dump 100 in airport TDB. No white whale trifecta there either. And, a great trip is in the books...

Day 6 result- -2.6k
Overall- +9.9k (call it 10 for ease of accounting)

Thoughts-

1. It was really good to be able to eat offstrip and do different things this time. I need to do more of this on future trips, especially bc if things are cold at the Wynn, the misery is compounded by basically being trapped there and being right next to the machines that COULD get me back, if things turn around...

2. I should get in at least 1 craps session per trip. No reason not to, variance is lower, and I'm not completely sick of the game like I used to be...

3. I got EXTREMELY lucky this trip. Were it not for both my dealt royal or the dealt 3's w/kicker, I'd be stuck over 5 figures. Take away even one and I'm even at best. I made a ton of hands, but I played a ton of 10 play and generally gave it all back. I need to be smarter and limit 10 play (I finally figured this out later in the trip).

4. Related to above- UX just sucks. I mean, it's cool and all when you make hands, except one makes hands so rarely. Need to save UX for when my dad is there, or if I'm really up and taking a shot.

Postscript-

Headed to my local at some point last week to pick up my monthly cashback and redeem the mailers. Played a mix of 20 line 25c TDB and flip and pay- both were cold. I was about to leave when I managed to get dealt 4 3's on flip and pay...



Result-


What an unbelievable kicker draw!

Kept playing for a bit, picked up 3 aces and a kicker, draw...



Drew so well on this day.

Ended up +4k for that session, with a little more bankroll padding for Vegas. Thanks for reading!

Your story tilts me just reading it.

Another great trip report. Thanks Leon!

I went to Chada and asked them to give me what the 'weird guy/freak' gets, and they got my order perfect..

Guess I should have gone with the freak and weird dude angle lol.


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Can I share a craps story?

At my local casino they count the number of rolls each shooter shoots because of the daily promotion they have going on around the top shooters for the day so I know my numbers to be accurate and not just a close approximation.

One Saturday I had three of the top 5 slots with rolls of 45, 47 and 42. 4 Points to a Fire Bet, 4 points to a Fire Bet and on the shortest roll a 5 pointer. I really don't think I can expect to do/see that again.

Ugh. Always- yet more evidence the dice are alive and have a sense of humor.

Personally, I've generally been able to play just fine with don't bettors. Independent events, they're simply betting on a different outcome and not "against" me, etc. The only time it's annoying is when they smirk when the dice 7 out and they pick up chips and the rest of us lose, as if they're so f'ing smart and are the only ones who figured out how to beat the game and the rest of us are donks. Those guys I root hard against. It's especially enjoyable bc usually I'm placing bets and often don't even win myself when a point comes in, but still plenty fun to clap for them when they kill themselves (and innocently act like I didn't know they just lost LOL).

Reading this thread really gets the degenerate juices flowing lol. Good thing I just home from back to back weekends in Vegas and I won't need to feed the beast for awhile.

Well ..maybe pop by the local on my way home for a quick beer...and some UX TDB

Im very thankful they don't have video poker in Washington.

Ive managed to kick all my other degeneracies, but Im quite certain VP would still be raping me.

Best TR on here.....

First off I want to thank leon and everyone that has made this thread so enjoyable. I signed up just to show you guys a picture that you might enjoy / cringe at. I was up in Reno visiting my friends and betting on basketball (Sweet 16 and great 8). I'm sure you can figure out what it will be and before you get too mad this is the only game that I really know how to play. I really need to spend some time to learn double double or triple double. Was so disappointed all night, my friends kept telling me to be happy that I won, they really couldn't understand my tilt. I turn Leon's $20,000 hand into $625.

Enjoy!



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At least its 9/6, that's forgivable.

And that isn't easy to find either.

DDB or TDB pay you less on the smaller hands, so it all evens out. Where the thrill is, is when playing multi-line and either getting dealt quads (all lines pay off) of a trips draw where you get multiple chances to hit the quads.

If you're playing a relatively short time, DDB/TDB sucks because you're not at the machine long enough to get the top payouts.

Ugh.

That's the main reason I never play Deuces Wild Bonus, or any variant, other than TDB, or DDB, if TDB isn't available..

When a 40 year old VP degen shows up to the Circus Circus arcade.

Did. Not. Enjoy.

On another note, I guess you don't need to bother learning TDB as you've clearly used up your "dealt 4 AWAK".

LOL. Pretty much.

I had a good run my last trip to the local- I think I was +7k and never hit anything over 2k, but basically just kept hitting hitting hitting from the moment I walked in the door. It was your classic dangerous trip in the sense that every time I was going to leave, or told myself, "just 500 more", I'd hit something and get more blood. Dangerous because memories like that are just fuel for turning future small losers into BIG losers (by continuing to play). Whatever, I'm glad it worked out this time. All of this was capped by a ~900$ hit on Walking Dead 2 (haven't played this much at all, and every time I do with the wife or my mom I get absolutely nothing). I took a couple of pics which I'll upload in a few days (we're out of town right now).

Do you guys know where the 2-4 kicker originated? Like, why those kickers? It would seem to me that a J-K kicker would make for a 'stronger' and more desirable hand. And yes, I understand that there are variants that give bonuses to J-K kickers, but the typical kicker games (TDB, DDB, etc), reward 2-4 kickers. Why?

Quite possibly because it causes bad players to hold non pay cards in improper situations.

I have to imagine it's due to the following two reasons:
1)There are way more holds that result in quads with JQK kickers than 234 kickers
2) New / inexperienced players are likely to draw incorrectly with this payable and the machines will hold greater than expectation due to player mistakes

Undoubtedly these two. I've personally posted several examples of quads made from a singleton high card hold (eg, hold J, QQQQ comes in, etc). There's no situation where a player would (properly) hold a singleton 2, 3, or 4 and backdoor a premium hand.

As to the second, I've had to explain to my nanny and my dad how AA is the right hold vs AA2, etc. One thing we can count on is if you give people an opportunity to make a mistake, they'll make them.

Saw this on Twitter. Dealt hand!




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Easter Weekend













And ....Last Hand.... Drum Roll Please
Bam!






Miracles do come true on Leons's thread ..... Ahhhhh

Just one interesting tidbit of weekend. I came casino with $500 and donked that off and withdrew another 1k. Part of that ($600) was earmarked for past HOA dues in attorney's office. I couldn't make payment on Friday cause they were closed. Anyway was down to only $400 and then the winning streak happened.

Going home with $5200 (+3700)
Well I'm sitting in my hotel room right now packing