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07-19-2012 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kali2
Someone still writes checks?

If you bank with a nationwide bank you do not need a new one.
That's what I was wondering. My bank is a national bank with branches in Vegas. I won't have to show anyone a powerbill.
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07-19-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by M8Ludi
I never spent more than 30 minutes in the Vermont DMV.
Yes. Vermont. Where everything is better. Even the weather.
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07-20-2012 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by M8Ludi
I never spent more than 30 minutes in the Vermont DMV.
I wouldn't want to spend more than 30 minutes in Vermont period.
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07-20-2012 , 06:22 AM
Why is Vermont even a state? Lol.
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07-20-2012 , 08:46 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know I'm I'm contact with a coach. We are in the early stages of the process but after several referrals I believe he will offer great value. I want to find my leaks and I think he will help with that process. I'll keep everyone updated. Thanks for the support! My journey is getting closer.
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07-20-2012 , 09:34 AM
Good job, man. Hopefully you've got a great coach.

A couple of years ago, a 40-something tax guy made the move to Vegas. Packerfan1 was his username on 2p2, I think. You might want to read about his time in Vegas. His thread, whereas not a huge success, could provide some useful information to you.

Good luck man!
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07-20-2012 , 12:55 PM
Looking forward to hear how this turns out!

Good luck!
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07-20-2012 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
Good job, man. Hopefully you've got a great coach.

A couple of years ago, a 40-something tax guy made the move to Vegas. Packerfan1 was his username on 2p2, I think. You might want to read about his time in Vegas. His thread, whereas not a huge success, could provide some useful information to you.

Good luck man!
What the hell ever happened to Packerfan? I always enjoyed his tales.
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07-20-2012 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
I'd go with one of those extended stay places. The dude is like 40, having a room mate has to be weird at that age. Can't you find places that are like $200/wk?
Extended stays are still more expensive and crappier full of drug addicts. It may seem weird, but I've had roommates in their 40s that were ok, and if he is young at heart (which he needs to be to move to Vegas IMO) then he will be fine.
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07-20-2012 , 11:02 PM
MY ROUTE

I think I have figured out the path I will be taking to Vegas.

I plan to go to Cherokee, then Tunica, MS. After that my next step is Ok City followed by Sandia Casino in NM. From there...VEGAS!!

This will enable me to hit some of the Total Rewards casinos and hopefully get some comped rooms.

I shouldnt have to drive more than 9 hours at a stretch which is good for an old guy like me. So basically drive a day, play a day.

Might be a two week trip at most but possibly shorter.

My tentative leave date is Sept 17th with my arrival in Vegas by the end of the month.
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07-20-2012 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eli924
Why is Vermont even a state? Lol.
Vermont is awesome.

For example, not overrun by illegals like Cali.
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07-21-2012 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by StarberryBSD
Vermont is awesome.

For example, not overrun by illegals like Cali.
Ya, the Canadians return home!
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07-21-2012 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Limo Wreck
Wow, I'll be sure to avoid you in the marketplace.
Oh my God. What are you talking about? I gave the guy advice. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but EVERY SINGLE bank in the United States was involved in serious fraud. What they did is allowed people to lie on loan applications. They would then lend the money for the house, hundreds of thousands of dollars, while requiring the borrower to not put down a single penny.

The next step was to sell the loans to Wall Street so they could get rid of the risk. Then Wall Street sold the loans to the rest of the world and basically created the biggest financial disaster in our lifetimes.

Never before in world history had people been able to buy houses with zero down. People took these loans and many then were able to take out a few hundred thousand in home equity loans, if they got in during the rise. Many of these people took out hundreds of thousands of dollars without ever putting in a penny, since their home equity loans were far in excess of the mortgage total that they paid during the time they stayed there.

So, what happened when the **** hit the fan? The banks, and Wall Street asked to be bailed out. They were ALL GOING TO ZERO. That bailout came from public money, which means that every single American Citizen paid for it.

So, if they can do that, without anybody going to prison, then this guy can order a few cards and max them out if the worst case scenario happens. Those are the rules, and he is allowed to order as many cards as he likes, and if he gets into trouble he can use them. And if he goes under he can file for Bankruptcy, as there are no debtors prisons.

The only part he has to worry about, either legally, or ethically, is if he decides to keep a few thousand or more in cash and not report that on the bankruptcy application. If he does that, the damage he does to the world absolutely pales in comparison to the damage that those very banks did.

He will not damage anybody. He does theoretical damage to imaginary people. Those very banks put in place a game with their crummy mortgages that led lots of people to take their lives, and many others to take other people's lives. Many lives were ruined. If he pulls the plug and takes some cash out NOBODY gets ruined.

This is real world stuff. Publicly traded companies pull far more egregious moves than this, as they often max out credit lines immediately before filing bankruptcy, and management and employees get paid with that.
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07-21-2012 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
A couple of years ago, a 40-something tax guy made the move to Vegas. Packerfan1 was his username on 2p2, I think. You might want to read about his time in Vegas. His thread, whereas not a huge success, could provide some useful information to you.
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Originally Posted by marknfw
What the hell ever happened to Packerfan? I always enjoyed his tales.
Last I checked, he just stopped posting in his thread but was still coming to 2+2 everyday.

I guess he failed.
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07-21-2012 , 02:49 AM
OP, where do you live in NC?
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07-21-2012 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PolProf


Finally an eating schedule. This is one where I could use a little help. I am a big fan of CLiff bars and I plan on taking those with me to eat at the table. Water can be brought in so no tipping for the servers. I plan on a decent size breakfast which consists of bars ,some protein shakes, a piece of fruit and toast. Pretty cheap and not that bad for you. "Lunch" is the issue. What to eat when there? If I get on the tables in the early afternoon, a meal somewhere around 5:00 might be in order. What do you guys eat there to stay cheap and as healthy as possible?

Playing will be in no more than 8 hour shifts. I also like to get up and walk away from the table every couple hours. That seems to keep me more alert. I have played 14 hours in one stretch before and I was not playing my 'A' game for sure. I think 8 is plenty and I have done it numerous times.

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Dude you sound 40 going on 75 ..

Wake up around 11am, soak some rays by the pool followed by full greasy breakfast

1.30pm - 5/10 table and bring your A-game
3.00pm - can't ignore the big-titted waitresses any longer .. move to 2/5 table and start ordering vodkas
7pm - Blazing drunk .. move to 1/3 table and declare in a loud voice 'donkey comin in!' then stack their asses.

Repeat.
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07-21-2012 , 04:00 AM
Good Luck OP!

You know, 4K if you don't run bad at the beginning, you can do it.
I wouldn't recommend the TI thing tho (full of regs, small pots, boring game and not juicy if you play nitty), but maybe to chase the freerolls? Just for a start tho, then, after a month, when you feel good and your game is set, go table select.

Maybe some infos in a TR I made :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...eport-1170236/
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07-21-2012 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
OP, where do you live in NC?
I live near Charlotte
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07-21-2012 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by potleemit
…, but EVERY SINGLE bank in the United States was involved in serious fraud. What they did is allowed people to lie on loan applications. They would then lend the money for the house, hundreds of thousands of dollars, while requiring the borrower to not put down a single penny. .
That’s not fraud on the part of the lender. It may have been a bad business model, but not fraud.

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So, if they can do that, without anybody going to prison, then this guy can order a few cards and max them out if the worst case scenario happens. Those are the rules, and he is allowed to order as many cards as he likes, and if he gets into trouble he can use them. And if he goes under he can file for Bankruptcy, as there are no debtors prisons.
Just because one person breaks the law somewhere in the world does not mean you can. Very faulty logic.

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He will not damage anybody. He does theoretical damage to imaginary people. Those very banks put in place a game with their crummy mortgages that led lots of people to take their lives, and many others to take other people's lives. Many lives were ruined. If he pulls the plug and takes some cash out NOBODY gets ruined.
Regardless on the fallacy of no one gets hurt. The OP would also have to worry about committing fraud, tax evasion and money laundering.

Fraud for taking out the credit card without the intention of playing it back, tax evasion for not reporting the money gained by fraud, and money laundering for making the money clean. The odds of getting caught and charged with everthing is not great, but if it happened the OPs life is f#cked.

I agree with Limo Wreck and will avoid ever doing business with you.

Best of luck to OP.
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07-21-2012 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ncmtbiker
That’s not fraud on the part of the lender. It may have been a bad business model, but not fraud.


Just because one person breaks the law somewhere in the world does not mean you can. Very faulty logic.



Regardless on the fallacy of no one gets hurt. The OP would also have to worry about committing fraud, tax evasion and money laundering.

Fraud for taking out the credit card without the intention of playing it back, tax evasion for not reporting the money gained by fraud, and money laundering for making the money clean. The odds of getting caught and charged with everthing is not great, but if it happened the OPs life is f#cked.

I agree with Limo Wreck and will avoid ever doing business with you.

Best of luck to OP.
For the record I will NOT be ordering more credit cards and maxing them out. Nor will I be committing any fraudulent acts.

/PSA
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07-21-2012 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
Last I checked, he just stopped posting in his thread but was still coming to 2+2 everyday.

I guess he failed.
Well yeah, that seems like how his story ended. I think if you read his posts, you can tell that he wasn't the best player, but maybe he could have done better if he had a better attitude/was mentally tougher.

You don't have to be the best player at the table to win the moneys. I think we've all seen that at least a few times. One thing I have noticed about pros and consistent winners is that they don't get emotional. e.g. push them a big pot, and they stack the chips without even a smile. Some noobtard sucks out on them for the fourth time today, stone face. I feel like Packerfan1 didn't handle losing well.
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07-21-2012 , 09:14 AM
This might go counter to some of the strategies often posted here but IMHO the key is to cut down on the variance. While mathematically equiv, 5 small wins of $20 is better than a loss of 300 and then a win of 400. With swings that are too high you get much closer to the risk of ruin.

Let's not forget these are cash games not tournies. A bunch of smaller plays with a few big ones is much better than a number of big ones that are either mathematically equiv or even EV+. It's better to give up a bit of EV in order not to bust if you plan on playing for extended period of time. This does not mean play badly or passively. It means get a bit more picky about where you make your big plays and try to make more consistent but smaller EV plays such as picking up smaller dead money pots....

Feel free to mock but that's been my experience....
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07-21-2012 , 10:23 AM
4k across the country poker run scares me... Play tight my friend.
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07-21-2012 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
4k across the country poker run scares me... Play tight my friend.
I Plan on it. Obv not knowing whose a reg and who isn't it in strange poker rooms puts me at a disadvantage. Then again they don't know me either
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07-21-2012 , 10:34 AM
are you going to be in the position to make updates as you drive across?
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