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01-23-2024 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You mean counting? It also takes a huge bankroll and lots and lots of patience. You can run below expectation for a long time. I tried counting as an experiment for a few hours and never won a hand when the count was good. Also didn't get any blackjacks during those 3 hours.
Life is too short, vacations are too short. just do your best and have fun. it obviously isn't hurting your chances
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01-23-2024 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWhale

That table then broke, and I get moved to a nearby one. I sit down and see a limp for 800 and a raise to 3000 from a guy who:

1) Has huge earbuds and sunglasses.
2) Looks completely stone faced and like a real douchebag grinder.

(apologies if I offend someone with this description, but the entire look was just so overdone that it just looked miserable).
Biggest win of the trip in my eyes. Always love taking these type out (especially on a suckout) and send them home grumbling
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01-23-2024 , 12:52 PM
After getting eliminated on the bubble at South Point, I went back to NYNY and updated this TR. I then headed out for some more play, and although I had a hard time deciding on where to play I ended up at Wynn/Encore. As soon as you enter the poker room, you are greeted by a big pair:



Maybe a random selection on a Monday evening, but I wanted to give Wynn another try as the game plays quite big and maybe I could run well. After a few minutes we started a new game 4-handed, with one pro, one random Asian (maybe a pro) and one fishy guy who only sat with $200. After around 10-15 minutes the table did however start to fill up, and before you knew it we were 8 players. I was break even at this point, winning 1-2 small pots that's not even worth mentioning.

Then the fun starts as soon as the 8th player joins the table. He looks like a pro, is recognized by someone else at the table, and immediately starts to raise his hands pre-flop. In maybe his second or third hand, there is a limp for $3, this new pro makes it $15 and I find QQ in SB. I 3-bet to $55 (should have made it $60), and he calls quickly.

Flop comes the dreaded A-7-5 two diamonds. Not perfect, but I continue for a small sizing ($40). He calls. Turn is a black T. I have no idea what the best line is here, but I obviously thought he would float wide in position to the small sizing. So I ended up betting again, reasoning that it would be easier to get to showown that way than to just let him take control of the pot. I make it $90, but he calls somewhat quickly again.

River is another 7, but at least no flush came in. I have to give up now, so I check and pray he will just check behind. He does just that, and after I show my hand he mucks. Very unsure about this turn-spot, it's one of those where I both hate betting and getting called, but where I hate giving up even more. If I have to guess he had JJ, or missed a flushdraw of some kind.

I am hardly done stacking my chips before there is a limp from a fishy guy, the Asian (fairly tight) makes it $12, the new grinder guy makes it $40, and I have KK in cutoff. I 4-bet to $110, don't think I need to make it any bigger than that in position. First two players fold, and grinder guy makes the call.

J-6-4 two hearts. He checks it, and with the Kh in my hand I actually decided to make a sneaky check back. Having a heart means I don't have to worry too much about another one coming out + I think this guy will pounce on weakness as soon as he sees it. Turn comes a 9, and he leads for $85. I debated just jamming for his remaining $200-something, but settled on a call.

River is a 5 of hearts, but he checks so he for sure doesn't have the flush. Value time then. I chose to bet $190, which in hindsight was a bit silly as he only had around $250 left. Should have just gone for it all - especially since I knew his stack size and didn't just bet blindly.

He thinks for a long time, says he doesn't have much but that he probably have to pay it off. So I do think my flop-check really confused him, as I would for sure have bet a flush draw on flop for example. He ends up calling, which is obviously great news. In hindsight I need to jam that river though, as I think he will call with the same hands that he calls for $190 with.



Huge stack then, after buying in for $400. The sad thing is I went very card-dead afterwards, although I can hardly complain about distribution (see above). This grinder-guy was compeltely relentless, bought in again for the max and kept hammering. He was in there in at least 50% of the pots, and although he sometimes was caught bluffing he won a ton of hands and soon built up a stack similar to mine. So it's fair to say I didn't really want to tangle against him in a big pot. Although he was probably overdoing it a bit, he was easily the most tricky/tough player I have seen in Vegas this trip.

One more interesting hand though; there was a Croatian guy at the table who was clearly a huge fish. He didn't seem all that accustomed to playing in a casino, and was limp-calling a lot and generally chasing in hands. That said, he seemed a bit scared to put in huge amounts without a good hand.

Funny story btw, he said he had been in Vegas for 20 days now, and twice having gotten robbed (!). Once he picked up a 'card' (with women on it) from someone on the street, called the number on the card to set up an appointment at his room, and the girl did not show up alone, but rather with two large guys who then proceeded to take all the money he had visible in his room. At least that's how I understood the story, although his English wasn't perfect, and he seemed to just laugh it off as 'gotta try it in Vegas, man'

Anyway, this guy limps for $3, I make it $15 with AQo, and get three callers. Flop is rather favorable, with A-Q-2 two diamonds. It checks to me, I bet $25 and only the Croatian calls. Turn is another diamond, the 6. He checks, and I am still going to bet unless he tells me otherwise though. I did however miscalculate this pot in my head, which is why I ended up betting only $42 on the turn. He calls very quickly.

River is the 4d, so there are now four diamonds out there and I have none. And to make matters worse, the Croatian moves all-in for his remaining $200. Sigh. I know I have to fold, but it's just so annoying having to do so. Plus, I had realized by now that I had made a mistake on the turn regarding pot size.

I fold face-up, hoping he would show, but he does not. However, I am 99.9% certain this was not a bluff. Most likely he just flopped top pair with some random Ad combo, and no amount that I bet would have gotten him to fold. It's just too bad the river was not a diamond, otherwise I could have taken his Ace to valuetown.

That guy eventually left, and another short stacked fish had also left the table a bit earlier. Another pro trickled in, and the game became unplayable. So I just took my $492 USD profit and left after 2 hours and 30 minutes.



I ordered an Uber, as it was raining outside, and went over to MGM Grand instead. Mostly because I saw they had 7 tables running and no list, but also because it was just across the street from NYNY and I would have a short way 'home' when I got tired.



Game looked very boring when I sat down, but I did discover that there were two fish at the table who was drinking quite heavily and being a bit splashy with what hands they were playing pre-flop. They didn't know each other from before, but had bonded from sitting next to each other and was encouraging each other to order more drinks etc.

Not going to run through many hands here, as there were really only one interesting one. I tried to open it up with some raises to $10 pre when I had decent hands, but I was connecting very poorly with the flop. So even though I also won the odd small pot here and there, I was probably down around $40 or so when this spot comes up.

There is a straddle on the button from a new guy, before a grinder-looking guy makes it $17. A new OMC to the table calls, a new black guy calls, and an Indian OMC calls on the button. I am in SB with AKo and a ton of dead money out there. I make it $100 straight (seems like a fine sizing), expecting to just pick it up most of the time.

Raiser folds quickly, but then the first OMC-caller asks how much it is and puts in the call. He only has $60 behind or so, which is just insane. The rest folds, and I just slide out enough to cover him before the flop even comes out. Q-J-9 was not on my Christmas wish list, and he snap-calls as soon as he sees it.

I assume that means I am toast, and shows him I only have Ace King. He does however show up with ATdd, so by some miracle I am still ahead. Turn is a 6 and river is a 4, and I can only accept the donation. I would have been happy to just take it down pre, but getting to stack a player and win even after that flop is definitely not something I expected.



Although I played a couple of rounds more, nothing really exciting happened. One of the drunk guys busted, and the second one talked about leaving soon. And I was getting tired, so I just racked up after 2 hours and 15 minutes with a profit of $173 USD.

Cash Games:

Hours played: 42h 45 min
Won/lost: -$82 USD
Hourly rate: -$1.9 USD

Tournaments:

Won/lost: -$320 USD (2 played)
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01-23-2024 , 01:02 PM
Today is Tuesday 23rd January. That means that it's time to start spreading the news, because I'm leaving today. I would have liked to still be a part of it, at...



That said, look at the numbers above! I thought it would be very hard to get back to even, and now I am only down $82 USD in Cash Games, even after that $1200 loss at $2/$5. That feels pretty good, and although I ran well yesterday it's still a testatment to me (once again) that I am beating the $1/$3 games here quite easily.

Will I play more today? Maybe. The flight doesn't leave until 10:20pm after all, so I still have a ton of hours. Now I am going to eventually start packing up and checking out of the hotel, and see what the day will bring. Thankfully I once again have a decent bankroll of USD, so I can even find the time for some VP degening before I leave maybe.

This trip has felt extremely long, and obviously didn't go the way I wanted to with me getting sick after only two days. That said, I have thankfully recovered some towards the end now (still coughing a bit, but otherwise feel decent). And with the sickness in mind, I am actually quite happy with the number of hours I have played. Would have easily made it over 50 hours if I hadn't been feeling terrible some days there in the middle.

And the $2/$5 session aside, I am very happy with many of the lines I have taken in hands. Some mistakes for sure, but I have had some very good thoughts during hands which have paid off at times.

I just need to be even more ruthless in some spots (maybe not to the extreme of the grinder guy at Wynn), but also to slow down a bit more in some spots. I think it was Javanewt that wrote that when people are letting me see flops, I can adjust a bit to that and don't go crazy with isolating any decent looking hand. And although I don't want to be a guy that limps into pots very much, you have to adjust and take what the table gives you (still not my strong point to make huge adjustments).

Will probably update one more time from Harry Reid Airport, and also if/when I finally make it home to Malta. Vegas can be a bit exhausting when you are not feeling 100% (and not running great), and I have felt some of those thoughts creep in a times. But it's still utterly amazing 98% of the time, and as soon as I am home I assure you I will start looking and planning potentially new trips.

MuckPls obviously still have a couple of days left, so he will keep the thread going - hopefully he can continue the (mostly) run good.
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01-23-2024 , 01:45 PM
Everybody runs good on their last day!!

Let’s goooooooo
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01-23-2024 , 01:52 PM
Nice comeback!
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01-23-2024 , 02:06 PM
Well done, BigWhale! Good luck today and safe travels tonight.
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01-23-2024 , 03:08 PM
Home for the next 4 nights:













Exactly the same layout as last time but on floor 47 instead of 55 this time.

In a bit more not so fun news: joined a game at Aria where I lost $400 and then joined a blackjack table where I lost $700. Seems like even I ain’t bulletproof. Ah well, lots of bullets and time to go!
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01-23-2024 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWhale
After getting eliminated on the bubble at South Point, I went back to NYNY and updated this TR. I then headed out for some more play, and although I had a hard time deciding on where to play I ended up at Wynn/Encore. As soon as you enter the poker room, you are greeted by a big pair:

Those are the only aces I've seen at Wynn in my last several visits there.

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Huge stack then, after buying in for $400. The sad thing is I went very card-dead afterwards, although I can hardly complain about distribution (see above). This grinder-guy was compeltely relentless, bought in again for the max and kept hammering. He was in there in at least 50% of the pots, and although he sometimes was caught bluffing he won a ton of hands and soon built up a stack similar to mine. So it's fair to say I didn't really want to tangle against him in a big pot. Although he was probably overdoing it a bit, he was easily the most tricky/tough player I have seen in Vegas this trip.
My last visit there, 3 of these guys were at the table. They were running good too. I was mostly just a spectator.

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Cash Games:

Hours played: 42h 45 min
Won/lost: -$82 USD
Hourly rate: -$1.9 USD

Tournaments:

Won/lost: -$320 USD (2 played)
That's really a nice comeback.
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01-23-2024 , 03:36 PM
Muck, does your employer pay for your lodging there?
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01-23-2024 , 04:05 PM
BigWhale nice job Monday, way to finish strong.
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01-23-2024 , 04:07 PM
No his blackjack does
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01-23-2024 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brianr
No his blackjack does

True, blackjack and VP and platinum pays for it. It’s fully comped.
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01-23-2024 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MuckPls
True, blackjack and VP and platinum pays for it. It’s fully comped.
If your employer kicked in a couple hundo a day, you could get nicer suites.
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01-23-2024 , 11:10 PM
Now at the Harry Reid Airport, coming to you with one more live update from Las Vegas.

After checking out of the room at NYNY, I actually headed over to Mandalay Bay, as I had noticed when I was there 2-3 days ago that they still had Video Poker machines with good paytables for my stakes. Took the tram over there, and immediately started playing lots of volume to make up for the lackluster numbers earlier this trip. Also threw in a Buffalo Slot machine for good measures, and hopefully MGM will see one big wagering day before leaving, and decide to give me some reasonable offers going forward as well.

And the worst part is, I was actually running quite decent. Probably broke even, at least on the VP portion. After playing, I made my way over to more familiar terrain.

NYNY:



MGM Grand (and parts of Excalibur:



One of these days I need to bring a woman to Vegas and take a picture of her right here:



I then went over to Aria for one last quick session, simply because I had a lot of time to kill. After waiting around 20 minutes, I got a seat. Only bought in for $300, but with the view to potentially add on if the game played big. I quickly one a small one, when there are two limps for $3 and I make it $16 from cutoff with KTdd. I get one caller, and flop comes A-3-T two hearts. He checks, and I debated between betting small and checking, but ended with a check.

Turn is the 5h, so there are now three hearts out there. He checks, I bet $14 and he calls. River is yet another heart, the 7. He checks, and I just turn over my hand halfway expecting to lose. It is however good, so it's nice to see that I did get a little bit of value on turn.

Then there is a straddle to $6, two callers, and a woman in SB goes to $21. I find AA in the BB, and although I can't quite see how much she has left (seat 9 vs seat 1), I 3-bet to $71. The rest folds out, and she calls quite quickly.

Flop comes A-J-6 two spades, and she ends up jamming in front. Music to my ears, and I call - although I now see it's not that much more she had left (maybe $50-$60 or so). Turn is a 7 and river is an 8 (third spade). It doesn't matter however, as she only have a weirdly played TT.



A while later I give back a lot of the profit however, when an active player from the UK (who is also going home tonight) raises to $15. The woman, who was a bit of an erratic player, calls in hijack, and I have A9dd in cutoff. Squeeze time! I raise it up to $70, although in hindsight can probably get away with $60 in position. That said, the main goal is to take the pot down pre.

A nicely dressed young guy in SB does however go into the tank, before eventually coming with the cold-call. I assume he is fairly strong, but it's very hard to tell as he didn't really look like a very studied player. The other two folds out, and we see the Q-2-5 flop with one diamond. He checks, and I have two backdoors at least. So let us bet small ($50), and see what happens. What happens is that he announces 'raise' and slide out $100 more. I fold immediately and bemoan my timing. In hindsight, maybe I could just check back flop and try to realise some equity, for example a 3 or a diamond on the turn.

I do however win some back through a couple of small spots, can run through two of them. In one there are two limps for $3 and I make it $15 from the button (bit too small) with KTdd. BB calls, and the two limpers actually fold. We see K-J-4 two clubs, and I actually decided to check it. He checks back. Turn is another club, the 6c. Not worried about him having a flush, but have to charge a draw now, so I bet $25. He calls.

River is a Q and goes check-check. This guy looked a bit spewy in his playing style, so I actually wanted to give him a chance to bluff clubs. But he did not, and I obviously win.

Then the woman limps for $3, and I go $16 from SB with AQo. An Asian player in BB calls, and the woman folds. Flop is 9-2-2, and I bet out $15 again. He calls quickly. Turn is a K, which is a great card to bluff on in case he has a medium pocket pair. So I make it $25, with plans to increase on river. He does however show 55 and fold, so that was easy.

After 2 hours I got tired of playing, and went back to NYNY to get a 20 minute massage instead (which was awesome!). The result of the session was +$98 USD, which means... we are in profit for the trip on cash games Although I didn't think about it while playing, it feels good mentally to actually post a profitable result when all is said and done. It feels well earned as well, I just wish I didn't have that mental lapse in the $2/$5 game and ended up losing a buy-in I didn't have to lose. But what is done is done, can only learn from it and come back stronger.

Hopefully I can come back to Las Vegas soon as well. But for now, we have to endure two flights and endless hours of traveling. That said, I am hopefully to get a lot of sleep while up in the air.

Until next time, Vegas, and until next time, 2+2 readers. It's been a blast.



Cash Games:

Hours played: 44h 45 min
Won/lost: +$16 USD
Hourly rate: +$0.36 USD

Tournaments:

Won/lost: -$320 USD (2 played)
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01-23-2024 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWhale
One of these days I need to bring a woman to Vegas and take a picture of her right here:

Lots of them in Vegas. I imagine you could convince one to sit for a picture.

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Cash Games:

Hours played: 44h 45 min
Won/lost: +$16 USD
Hourly rate: +$0.36 USD

Tournaments:

Won/lost: -$320 USD (2 played)
A lot better than my results in recent memory.
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01-24-2024 , 02:48 AM
way to go out a winner
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01-24-2024 , 01:39 PM
Wish I had anything interesting to update, sadly don’t. Got buried yesterday for a **** ton of money on both poker and blackjack. All good tho it’s just variance and whatever.







Also some not so fun story: woke up for a super early meeting this morning only for the water to be completely off. It came back on 3 hours later but no or barely any hot water.

Had some breakfast, and decided to play my $20 free play at Aria and second hand:




Plan is to take it easy today, got Vegas sick too (tons of damn coughing). Feel absolutely miserable.
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01-24-2024 , 01:42 PM
Nice, BigWhale. Excellent last session. Thanks so much for sharing your tip with us.

So sorry, MuckPls. I hope you feel better soon.
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01-24-2024 , 11:50 PM
Again can’t really think of anything interesting to post, nobody wants to listen to bad beat stories. So instead here’s a pic of the Diablos Cantina wall at the Mirage:




Also a stack pic with a Jameson:

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01-25-2024 , 01:18 AM
Jameson number ?????

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01-25-2024 , 02:04 AM
Are you close to getting the hours you need to get the status you wanted?
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01-25-2024 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
Are you close to getting the hours you need to get the status you wanted?

No, I’ve been slacking after the marathon weekend sessions, because of work and other stuff. I will just have to get it during next trip.
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01-25-2024 , 04:01 AM
What did you think of Diablo's Cantina?
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01-25-2024 , 10:36 AM
I love hearing bad beat stories! Seriously, write it all up.
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