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06-10-2016 , 09:34 PM
I know they are cutting down beer selection too but this is one of the main reasons I always order beer when im out.

When you order a beer they open it and give it to you. Liquor you have to worry about ice, brand of liquor, amount of liquor, quality of mixer, type of glass and deal with long pouring, dirty glasses, etc.
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06-10-2016 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
The final straw will be a small admission fee to get into the casinos or an annual membership like Costco. You all laugh, but watch them pull this BS off in about 5-10 years.
This is illegal in Nevada. A tavern with video poker can't even charge admission for PPV events. All gaming must be open to the public without restriction. (NRS 463.0129)
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06-11-2016 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
This is illegal in Nevada. A tavern with video poker can't even charge admission for PPV events. All gaming must be open to the public without restriction. (NRS 463.0129)
Pretty sure the law would change if the casinos wanted it to change, but agree it's not going to happen.
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06-11-2016 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EndoBird
What if I want a zima?


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06-11-2016 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Pretty sure the law would change if the casinos wanted it to change, but agree it's not going to happen.
I disagree that casinos could get it changed. There are legitimate reasons the law exists and MGM has been cited and fined for violating it.

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jul...complaint-ari/
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06-11-2016 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
They've been penny pinching with drinks for quite a long time now.
The bottled beer I always drank in the MGM Grand was Becks, a fairly expensive German beer. They stopped serving it over a year ago now and stuck with the cheap Heineken.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Becks is now owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev, and last time I looked at one, it said it was brewed in St Louis.
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06-11-2016 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
This is illegal in Nevada. A tavern with video poker can't even charge admission for PPV events. All gaming must be open to the public without restriction. (NRS 463.0129)
I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't totally rule out for Nevada to change that loaw in the future. Paying admission to get into a casino is common in a couple other countries in the world.

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Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Becks is now owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev, and last time I looked at one, it said it was brewed in St Louis.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...rmany-st-louis
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06-11-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Is this a change? I'm pretty sure it has been this way, at least since the 90s, especially at the 25c- slots and $10- blackjack tables.

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I learned the term "well drink" from a snarky waitress at Luxor. As in, "I watched you run ahead of me and drop a quarter into a slot machine so it looks like you're playing, no, you can't have a Grey Goose and tonic, but you can have a well drink, you cheap ass degenerate."

She was probably more polite than that.
It has likely been true at Luxor and that level of casino but it is a new development at the nicer joints. I, being a fancy man, frequent the nice joints.
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06-11-2016 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
It has likely been true at Luxor and that level of casino but it is a new development at the nicer joints. I, being a fancy man, frequent the nice joints.
Pretty sure I've been shot down at Caesars Palace and Wynn as well, but it's always a little nebulous how obvious we're being when we do stupid **** like that.

8-10 mid 20something half drunks running past the cocktail waitress and dropping single quarters into slot machines lol
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06-12-2016 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't totally rule out for Nevada to change that loaw in the future. Paying admission to get into a casino is common in a couple other countries in the world.
The only casino in the U.S. like this that comes to mind with restricted access is Greenbrier in WV. The Greenbrier is a unique resort that caters to the elite in an area that is not.

The goal in WV was to keep the locals out of Greenbrier and prevent it from competing against the racinos and local video lottery establishments. This was the compromise Greenbrier came to that permitted it to get a gaming license in a state where it must be at tracks. All guests to the property must go through a security gate so that makes it easy to regulate traffic.

I don't see any place where this works or is needed in Las Vegas.

Even if Nevada law permitted charging admission, the number of entry points to these massive resorts becomes an issue. I also can't see many people paying to enter a casino, especially with all of the removal of themes these days. There really isn't much to see.

Then you have to think about the tenants (shows, restaurants, shops, clubs etc) that would lose business if guests couldn't freely enter their establishment. The casinos get a cut of that.

Last edited by John Mehaffey; 06-12-2016 at 02:15 AM.
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06-12-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
Even if Nevada law permitted charging admission, the number of entry points to these massive resorts becomes an issue.
Maybe not as big as the bigger players in Vegas, but there are many casinos in the US that have 1-2 people at every entry point to the casino to check IDs. L'Hauberge in Lake Charles, LA for example is that way.

Other than that, I agree with you and don't see it happen either. But, 10 years ago, how many people would have thought they'd introduce parking fees at Vegas casinos? I think most people would have laughed about that ridiculous idea..
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06-12-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict

Then you have to think about the tenants (shows, restaurants, shops, clubs etc) that would lose business if guests couldn't freely enter their establishment. The casinos get a cut of that.
That seems it would be a huge part of it there- I would guess it would violate lease agreements all over the strip.

But I too don't see these laws changing. What NV politician would get behind something so blatantly anti-customer? Parking costs and resort fees didn't require politicians to stand up and publicly ask for them.
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06-12-2016 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
What NV politician would get behind something so blatantly anti-customer? Parking costs and resort fees didn't require politicians to stand up and publicly ask for them.
I may be arguing against myself here, but they could attach it as a rider into a must-pass bill or something, much like the UIGEA leeched onto a port security bill.
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06-13-2016 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
I may be arguing against myself here, but they could attach it as a rider into a must-pass bill or something, much like the UIGEA leeched onto a port security bill.
Nevada law doesn't permit that. You can't attach anything to the must-pass bills and every individual issue must stand alone with a unique bill number.

The only hope would be to figure out some way to get it through two committees and two chamber votes without anybody bothering to read or understand it. I'm sure some obscure topics have gotten through that way but NGCB is there being a watchdog on gaming bills.
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06-13-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
Nevada law doesn't permit that. You can't attach anything to the must-pass bills and every individual issue must stand alone with a unique bill number.
I wish all other states and Federal adopted this.
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06-13-2016 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I wish all other states and Federal adopted this.
+1
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06-13-2016 , 05:02 PM
Vital Vegas, which originally broke the MGM drink-watering news, now adds to the story: Only paid drinks get 1.25 oz of liquor instead of 1.5. Comp drinks now get 1.0 oz of (brand X) liquor.
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06-13-2016 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eobmtns
Vital Vegas, which originally broke the MGM drink-watering news, now adds to the story: Only paid drinks get 1.25 oz of liquor instead of 1.5. Comp drinks now get 1.0 oz of (brand X) liquor.
Did I miss something? I assumed that the 1.25 oz pours were ONLY for the comp drinks. You mean those are the ****ing paid drinks?

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06-13-2016 , 08:22 PM
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06-13-2016 , 08:34 PM
My local casino just switched last weekend to standardized 1.25 oz pours instead of free pours. The bartenders are all annoyed because they have to use the jigger which slows them down.
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06-13-2016 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
I don't even care about the quantity of alcohol (assuming I didn't pay for it)
An blog I read stated they've lowered the booze you pay for too! They're pouring 1 1/4 oz for paid drinks and 1 oz for comped drinks (instead of the industry standard of 1 1/2 oz).
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06-13-2016 , 09:26 PM
Am I imagining things or did someone else just post that 4 posts above you?
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06-13-2016 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Am I imagining things or did someone else just post that 4 posts above you?
I heard all the bartenders are annoyed because they have to use jiggers instead of free pours.
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06-13-2016 , 11:51 PM
This is insanity. I'm really not sure where this price gouging, add on fees and penny pinching will end.

If that 1.25oz is for paid drinks I'd really be ticked. The avg mix drink price any and gaming floor bar in LV seems to be $9-$13 with $12 seeming to be a popular price. With that kind of cost you should be getting a 2oz pour. Sheesh.
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06-14-2016 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
This is illegal in Nevada. A tavern with video poker can't even charge admission for PPV events. All gaming must be open to the public without restriction. (NRS 463.0129)
Although this is true apparently there are exceptions to that law, the Palms got a waiver so that they could charge admission to enter the Playboy club back in the day when it opened and they had gaming up there.
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