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Yesterday , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by twoarmedbandit
I hit cash out. The slot makes a change sound. Then I put the ticket back in.

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Then hilarity ensues for everyone else as the chinese guy (heaven help you if it's a chinese female) starts yelling at you.
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Yesterday , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rodgethatnew
To be fair it’s not just Vegas, I travelled the USA this year doing AP slots and poker and it was pretty much every city I visited had Chinese teams camping ascension non stop.

There is over 150 AP Machines that I know of and probably more I don’t know, I doubt mgm is going to ban every single ap machine from comps . Probably just the main ones everyone hunts, regal riches, ascension, hex, etc.
Per the video, MGM is not banning ANY machine from comps. It is analyzing the player history. If that player is only playing AP machines and realizing a actual win rate far above what the machine is set for, then that individual player doesn't get comps any longer.

If a random slot degen only plays Ascension but realizes a win rate in line with the machine set hold, that player will continue to get FP, comps, etc.

Basically MGM is setting it up such that AP players get the same whether they use a card or not. MGM is agnostic to the AP player "winning" on those machines because the machine profit is the same. It is just the distribution that is skewed. What MGM doesn't want to do is pay those AP players via the non-cash card benefits for taking advantage of the system.

The idea of the non-cash awards based on cards is that MGM is paying the player X% of the machine or game hold. If the playing is just playing 'randomly' then if their machine of choice holds 10% of coin in and and MGM then 'returns' 2% of the coin in back to the player, the machine actual hold is 8%.

But if the AP player is effectively reducing the coin in hold for their play to 1% on that machine and MGM was still paying them 2% of coin in as card rewards in FP, comps, food credits, etc. MGM is losing 1% on them. That is what they are trying to stop.
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Yesterday , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
I’ve heard the Gambling With An Edge guys Dancer and Munchkin joke about this.

“Ok now that I know stop spreading this information.”
Yeah for sure. Not many people are Thorpe and just figure it all out on their own. Others taught me and I've taught others. It's very rewarding to help someone improve their living conditions, pay off debts or whatever.

People used to leave a lot of bread crumbs online or offer general guidance, just like on that pod.

Last few years seems to be a huge increase in people just spelling out exactly how a play works in public. Some are selling info. Others, it seems, just want other people online to view them as smart.

When this occurs, it's just a matter of time till a casino person sees it and ends it. Casinos are the only significant beneficiaries of this.
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