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01-19-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
I looked this up. 47% of Vegas visitors drive their own cars while in Vegas, which of course means that the great majority of those people are coming from California or Arizona. NOBODY pays for parking at casinos in CA or AZ, nor do we pay for parking at most places. The comparison to cities where paid parking is standard does not fit. The reason parking is $25 in downtown Chicago is because supply and demand dictates it. The reason MGM is going to start charging for parking has nothing to do with that.
I used to look at license tags as I walked thru the parking garage after I parked and was amazed how at least 50% of the Tags where California and easily over 60% of the Tags were California or Arizona.
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01-19-2016 , 05:57 PM
^Yeah I think the statement that people are used to paying for parking is simply not true. This is big news because people are NOT used to paying for parking.
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01-19-2016 , 08:34 PM
Vegas has lost virtually every high limit slot player & I suspect most of their table game high rollers too, it's no longer a place where big gamblers gamble, the big Corporations have ruined it because they don't know how to treat people.
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01-19-2016 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by topdoll827
It's dying for being a gambling town & is now reliant on the younger partying crowd. They no longer know how to look after gamblers which should be their bread and butter income. They are driving down a dangerous path & will end up like Atlantic a City in many years to come unless they go back to the adage " one has to speculate to accumalate".
No. The gamblers shouldn't be their bread and butter income. The club scene, the restaurants and the shopping are actually profitable. Catering to those who are concerned about whether their edge is -1% or -5% is a really bad business model.

As others have said, Vegas is setting records on revenue and number of tourists.
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01-19-2016 , 11:23 PM
$10 a day in all MGM properties and special rates for locals when using their player's card. I'll be parking across the street in every casino
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01-20-2016 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I used to look at license tags as I walked thru the parking garage after I parked and was amazed how at least 50% of the Tags where California and easily over 60% of the Tags were California or Arizona.
A good portion of LV rental cars are registered in these states for whatever reason. My last Vegas rental had an Arizona tag and my rental before that was tagged from California...
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01-20-2016 , 12:37 AM
Vegas car rental rates are actually relatively very cheap as-is so don't think the parking fees will affect demand too much...
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01-20-2016 , 03:39 AM
Man, this is annoying. This is such a matter of principle, like when airlines started charging for checking bags and food. People hate being nickel and dimed. Just add that cost into the rooms or other more "hidden" ways. Surely, there has to be other ways to increase revenue without doing something so incredibly annoying. Sure, we will all get used to it because there are plenty of degens and vistors who will still come and will basically have no choice, but for many others it will leave a sour taste in their mouth and that's just not good customer service. Casinos should do things that leave us with a good experience, and paying for parking every time is not one of them. Of course it is understandable for big events, but every time is like getting a paper cut. It won't kill you but it sucks.

Also, just to clarify, how is "overnight" defined? If come at 7pm to play poker and leave at 1am is that "overnight"? What if I come at noon and leave at 8pm?

Also, would having a players card and/or being a LV resident exclude me from this fee? I have not read anything specific about this. Everything seems very vague.

I hope someone from MGM reads this thread, but I doubt it - and it won't change anything because apparently the theory of treating the players well is a lost art. It was really lost when the mafia left. Some things can simply not be seen on a spreadsheet and not everything is about dollars and sense. I once ordered a margarita at the Aria pool and it was 35 effing dollars - you may have robbed me that once - but never again! Charging more isn't always the answer - and it actually costs them money on future business!
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01-20-2016 , 03:54 AM
Petition is started on change.org
https://www.change.org/p/mgm-mirage-...as-vegas-strip
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01-20-2016 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gjpure
Also, would having a players card and/or being a LV resident exclude me from this fee?
No and no. On the first question though, the answer could be yes if you earned enough tier credits to get you one of the other cards besides the Sapphire card, but even if you do reach Pearl, Gold, or Platinum, you still would have paid for parking with your gambling losses at their properties.

They never said whether you needed to reach Pearl or one of the other levels/cards.
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01-20-2016 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gjpure
Also, just to clarify, how is "overnight" defined? If come at 7pm to play poker and leave at 1am is that "overnight"? What if I come at noon and leave at 8pm?
It pertains to being an overnight guest. If you're staying at the hotel for four nights, you'd be charged $40. It has nothing to do with someone just using the parking garage but not staying at the hotel. I'm sure they'll come up with something like an hourly charge with a daily max for locals and other non-guests.
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01-20-2016 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
Come and go where, though? Is it clear that the parking fee would cover all MGM properties, like if I leave Aria and go to Mirage?
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Originally Posted by R*R
The parking is definitely an issue for visitors from out-of-town who like to bounce around a bit for bars, restaurants, different casino floors/poker rooms, shows, shopping etc. I am a regular MGM client who rents a car and there is a very good chance I will avoid their properties if they don't handle this in an equitable manner. Between my wife and I we are often out and about 4 to 5 times a day.

As an example, if I go to the Mirage for a casual dining meal at say Carnegie or the BLT Burgers do I really want to fork out an additional $10 just to eat there. The cost of my burger just doubled.
They've already clarified that the $10 overnight fee includes in-and-out privileges for all of their properties. So you can stay at MGM, go to Mirage for lunch and then on to Aria for dinner and you won't be charged anything additional for parking.
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01-20-2016 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
They've already clarified that the $10 overnight fee includes in-and-out privileges for all of their properties. So you can stay at MGM, go to Mirage for lunch and then on to Aria for dinner and you won't be charged anything additional for parking.
Thanks for that clarification. If they are charging for parking then that fits the "equitable" I referred to in my post.
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01-20-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
Thanks for that clarification. If they are charging for parking then that fits the "equitable" I referred to in my post.
You're welcome. I found the information in an LVRJ column/article.

Strip fees are still being determined but Absher said MGM will take a more reasonable approach. Also, the fee charged to overnight guests allows those patrons to park in multiple MGM properties without an extra charge.

http://m.reviewjournal.com/opinion/c...ional-response
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01-20-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalcitygangsta
Vegas car rental rates are actually relatively very cheap as-is so don't think the parking fees will affect demand too much...
Last time I rented a full size from Alamo for around 25/day. 10 more sounds like a pretty significant increase to me
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01-20-2016 , 02:20 PM
It will be really interesting to see what they do for locals. Obviously, we won't be 'overnight guests'.

If locals can somehow park for free, that would be awesome. If we can buy a "24 hour parking pass" for $10, good at all properties, that would be OK. If we have to pay every single time we go in/out of a parking lot, that would just be obscene.

The whole thing does leave a bad taste in my mouth, and will likely keep me from going to the strip as often. I'd definitely stop going to the strip just to eat at the restaurants, and will probably skip gambling there most of the time as well. At least we'll still have free parking at Stations and other locals casinos...
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01-20-2016 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
You're welcome. I found the information in an LVRJ column/article.

Strip fees are still being determined but Absher said MGM will take a more reasonable approach. Also, the fee charged to overnight guests allows those patrons to park in multiple MGM properties without an extra charge.

http://m.reviewjournal.com/opinion/c...ional-response
What a pile of BS from this Absher guy
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The company provided a list of average fees in other destination markets. In Los Angeles, valet parking averages $35 a night and self parking is $22 a day. Phoenix averages $25 a day for valet and $15 for self park. In San Francisco, valet averages $56 and self parking is $47.
No way this is true, at least not at casinos
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"We make decisions that are best for the company's customers and employees," Absher said. "We're not afraid to lead on issues, popular or unpopular."
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01-20-2016 , 05:12 PM
Yeah, that is a pretty ridiculous comparison. Those parking charges for other cities actually make sense if you were comparing with downtown Las Vegas.

The strip isn't technically even in LV. And there is free parking at the casinos in the naerby suburbs of Phoenix, LA, and SF.
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01-20-2016 , 05:24 PM
Here's the form letter bull**** I got as a reply to my emailed complaint. I suggest everyone send their thoughts to comments@mlife.com. Obviously they don't really care what you say, but just adding negatives to their tally is better than nothing:

Good afternoon,

Thank you for contacting M life Member Services. I apologize for the inconvenience. Parking frustrations have been one of our most common guest concerns and upgrades including technology to existing parking structures along with construction of new parking will help us enhance our overall guest experience. Quite simply, our parking system is in need of significant improvements to meet guest expectations and current business needs at our resorts but the parking fees are slated to be modest in comparison to similar markets. Parking fees are scheduled to go into effect in 2Q 2016. Thank you for your patience.

Best Regards,

Bryan
Member Services Administrator
(866) 761-7111 (6am to 9pm PST)
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01-20-2016 , 05:25 PM
^

and I think "thank you for your patience" is my favorite word salad item in that nonsense reply. What exactly am I waiting patiently for?
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01-20-2016 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
^

and I think "thank you for your patience" is my favorite word salad item in that nonsense reply. What exactly am I waiting patiently for?
You are waiting patiently for the parking fees that we all have been asking for to finally be implemented.
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01-20-2016 , 06:28 PM
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Parking frustrations have been one of our most common guest concerns
They keep giving us this bs.

I don't find parking to be frustrating. Yesterday I was at Bellagio and there were plenty of spaces and it was easy to get in and out.

Parking frustrations will be a common concern once they start charging.
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01-20-2016 , 07:47 PM
It will be interesting to see how full the parking is at the Trop and Hooters when this goes into effect.
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01-20-2016 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
I looked this up. 47% of Vegas visitors drive their own cars while in Vegas, which of course means that the great majority of those people are coming from California or Arizona. NOBODY pays for parking at casinos in CA or AZ, nor do we pay for parking at most places. The comparison to cities where paid parking is standard does not fit. The reason parking is $25 in downtown Chicago is because supply and demand dictates it. The reason MGM is going to start charging for parking has nothing to do with that.
this. +1
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01-20-2016 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
They keep giving us this bs.

I don't find parking to be frustrating. Yesterday I was at Bellagio and there were plenty of spaces and it was easy to get in and out.

Parking frustrations will be a common concern once they start charging.
What's particularly funny/galling about it is that once they put gates in, it will absolutely slow down the traffic patterns getting into and out of the garages. Anyone who has ever been to a mall parking garage with gates knows this. I'm sure they will also add those dumb green and red lights over parking spaces (that don't work) and automate the ticket system so that no employees are at the exit (get ready for grandma in front of you at the gate without a prepaid ticket).
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