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Old 05-05-2019, 09:11 AM   #1801
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Re: MGM casinos now charging for parking..

yes, do the math. If one were to buy the land and construct the mega-parking garage and factor in utility/maintenance costs at MGM there is no way that is free. Naturally their customers indirectly pay for it but it does represent a cost to the corporation, especially if people use the parking facility but are not actual customers of MGM.

Another angle may be the value placed on information. Either pay for the privilege to park or sign up for a players card so they can market to the demographics that equate to maximum profit.
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Old 05-05-2019, 12:57 PM   #1802
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That is actually the entire point of them existing.
The people ?
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Old 05-05-2019, 01:14 PM   #1803
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Not feesable, how do you differentiate between those using it as airport parking and those staying at the hotel or going on 2 or 3 night bender?

It's funny how my statement about not minding resorts charging for parking as long as they fully validate for staying/playing/eating there turned into this strawman about the level of airport parking usage that has you and the other person's panties in bundle. You guys are truly something else.
Wait 24 to 48 hours ? Security can note cars left overnight, those are the most likely group harboring the culprits, Dr. Watson.

It is not tough, was done for years before charging ...

However, feel free to totally ignore what MGM itself said as to why they were going to charge for parking. By all means cling to your fanciful notion of dreaded droves of airport parkers freeloading at will on one of many MGM properties.

(You also might keep your apparent "panties bundle" fetish private ? Your attempted retort is kind of odd in the context of this, or any other thread.)
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Old 05-05-2019, 03:48 PM   #1804
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Wait 24 to 48 hours ? Security can note cars left overnight, those are the most likely group harboring the culprits, Dr. Watson.

It is not tough, was done for years before charging ...

However, feel free to totally ignore what MGM itself said as to why they were going to charge for parking. By all means cling to your fanciful notion of dreaded droves of airport parkers freeloading at will on one of many MGM properties.

(You also might keep your apparent "panties bundle" fetish private ? Your attempted retort is kind of odd in the context of this, or any other thread.)
Lol @ how mad this guy is.
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:27 PM   #1805
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The people ?
Yes. Err, well, I guess some of them exist for other purposes when they aren't at work.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:59 PM   #1806
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Lol @ how mad this guy is.
Lol if you think I'm mad , you just spouted nonsense, doubled down and topped it off with ad hominem attacks. That's tiresome drivel, not something to get angry about.
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:49 AM   #1807
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Lol if you think I'm mad , you just spouted nonsense, doubled down and topped it off with ad hominem attacks. That's tiresome drivel, not something to get angry about.
lol, if you say so. I said I wouldn't mind charging for parking if they fully validate for playing/eating/staying there. The I said one of the reasons, just one of many they started parking, was people using MGM locations as a proxy for airport parking.

Then you went on a conniption fit because you think you know better then everybody else and needed to prove that on a message board in order to feel any superiority in life, because your real life sucks. Nailed it didn't I?
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:51 AM   #1808
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Wait 24 to 48 hours ? Security can note cars left overnight, those are the most likely group harboring the culprits, Dr. Watson.

It is not tough, was done for years before charging ...

However, feel free to totally ignore what MGM itself said as to why they were going to charge for parking. By all means cling to your fanciful notion of dreaded droves of airport parkers freeloading at will on one of many MGM properties.

(You also might keep your apparent "panties bundle" fetish private ? Your attempted retort is kind of odd in the context of this, or any other thread.)
And you think that would work just as good at a Vegas strip casino with 10,000 car parking garages? lol, like I said it is not feasible.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:23 AM   #1809
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And you think that would work just as good at a Vegas strip casino with 10,000 car parking garages? lol, like I said it is not feasible.
Ironically, the thing that made it feasible is the new technology they installed for paid parking.

I donít know which system they use specifically, but things look pretty similar to what you can find in modern airport parking garages. There, they know exactly what time a car entered the garage and in what parking spot it is located right now. Takes a couple clicks to filter which cars entered the garage more than 24 hours ago and which parking spots they occupy.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:29 AM   #1810
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Ironically, the thing that made it feasible is the new technology they installed for paid parking.

I donít know which system they use specifically, but things look pretty similar to what you can find in modern airport parking garages. There, they know exactly what time a car entered the garage and in what parking spot it is located right now. Takes a couple clicks to filter which cars entered the garage more than 24 hours ago and which parking spots they occupy.
Exactly, and they had to install this system to do it. The other dope thought casino's could do it for 10,000 parked cars by chalking the tires or some ****. Not feasible piratically and economically, especially when you don't know if somebody is parked there as an airport proxy or someone is on a 48 hour coked up degen bender.
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Old 05-06-2019, 01:51 PM   #1811
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lol, if you say so. I said I wouldn't mind charging for parking if they fully validate for playing/eating/staying there. The I said one of the reasons, just one of many they started parking, was people using MGM locations as a proxy for airport parking.

Then you went on a conniption fit because you think you know better then everybody else and needed to prove that on a message board in order to feel any superiority in life, because your real life sucks. Nailed it didn't I?
If you want to think so, sure, whatever.

Feel better now ?
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:06 PM   #1812
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Why did they close it? The casino isn't big enough?
Mr Wynn wanted to put a giant lake and boardwalk in back along with a new hotel tower. One he got run from the company they revisited that plan and ultimately cancelled it.

I think Wynn has basically killed off *all* future Las Vegas developments due to demand not being there anymore.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikmat.../#3dfc1a0a339e
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:22 PM   #1813
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I think Wynn has basically killed off *all* future Las Vegas developments due to demand not being there anymore.
The $3bln that was earmarked for Wynn West is going to be invested in Macau instead. On their last earnings call they said thereís gonna be a couple more years of design and development for Wynn West which basically means the project is on hold.
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:56 PM   #1814
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Mr Wynn wanted to put a giant lake and boardwalk in back along with a new hotel tower. One he got run from the company they revisited that plan and ultimately cancelled it.

I think Wynn has basically killed off *all* future Las Vegas developments due to demand not being there anymore.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikmat.../#3dfc1a0a339e
You mean all Wynn development? Resorts World is still going and the Drew will too eventually.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:44 PM   #1815
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You mean all Wynn development? Resorts World is still going and the Drew will too eventually.
Yeah, Wynn development that is... although I wouldn't count on the Drew opening anytime in this millennium.
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:15 AM   #1816
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If you want to think so, sure, whatever.

Feel better now ?
Feel the same, if anything more amused on how passionate you are on the semantics of the subject. Hey, whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:57 AM   #1817
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You mean all Wynn development? Resorts World is still going and the Drew will too eventually.
All Wynn Vegas development. They expect a higher return on invest in Macau and use the money there instead.

Resorts World recently settled their lawsuit with Wynn who accused them of copying their exterior design to swindle people into believing the two resorts are related. Not sure how excited Wynn is about them opening next door.

Just last month, The Drew moved their expected opening date back to 2022 so developers can gain more certainty about the construction budget. That’s fancy speak for “we’re one major hiccup away from abandoning the project”. The only thing less likely than them opening within the next three years is keeping that name. Naming a resort for your child who had a highly marketable name and was killed fighting for our freedom in Iraq would be one thing. If your kid had a name that’s hard to pronounce for non-native speakers and died from an overdose, that might literally be the worst fit for a Las Vegas resort.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:31 AM   #1818
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All Wynn Vegas development. They expect a higher return on invest in Macau and use the money there instead.

Resorts World recently settled their lawsuit with Wynn who accused them of copying their exterior design to swindle people into believing the two resorts are related. Not sure how excited Wynn is about them opening next door.

Just last month, The Drew moved their expected opening date back to 2022 so developers can gain more certainty about the construction budget. That’s fancy speak for “we’re one major hiccup away from abandoning the project”. The only thing less likely than them opening within the next three years is keeping that name. Naming a resort for your child who had a highly marketable name and was killed fighting for our freedom in Iraq would be one thing. If your kid had a name that’s hard to pronounce for non-native speakers and died from an overdose, that might literally be the worst fit for a Las Vegas resort.
The Drew can differentiate itself among Strip casinos by offering free parking for locals who will then uber to the airport to catch flights out of town ? Droves of people, enough to fill a 10,000 car facility, reportedly may be expected to take them up on the offer.

With proper desgin, foot traffic exiting the parking structure can be forced to traverse the gaming floor .... CPA is one otherwise empty parking space, for local residents who will pass through twice per airport trip.

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Old 05-07-2019, 10:57 AM   #1819
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Yeah, Wynn development that is... although I wouldn't count on the Drew opening anytime in this millennium.
Discussion on VSIN the other day suggests that most new development that HAD been touting 2020 is now more likely to be 2021 and that this likely will include Circa. Of the three (RW, Drew, Circa), the consensus was that Circa was apt to be the only one capable of making a 2020 deadline for opening...
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:23 PM   #1820
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:59 PM   #1821
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Saw that VV tweet earlier. Should be interesting to see what happens. Granted, I think Wynn jacked up their resort fees last week so expect that again with MGM.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:40 PM   #1822
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Just got back from staying at MGM. Resort fees were $41 per day (including tax I believe) and then my parking was free since I am a gold member. I took a ticket when I first arrived in the garage and then when I exited I just swiped my gold card and I got through. I believe it said parking would have been $30 if I didn’t have free parking
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:36 PM   #1823
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One reason that MIGHT have some bearing on the decision to roll back parking.

We used to stay there when they hosted UFC fights. Poker room, dining choices, just walk the hallway to the arena and forget the crowds outside trying to get inside.

Soon after the parking fees started, Honey and I ate dinner at one of the MGM Grand restaurants and saw KA at the MGM Grand that same night.

$24 for parking despite the money we dropped in the place that night.

I told them, rather quietly and objectively but with firm resolution, when they would not accept our receipts as a sort of unofficial validation for the parking, "I am never coming back here."

That was just us.

Multiply that by 10 or 20 thousand (hopefully more by a large factor) and maybe they are seeing the error of their ways.

One can hope.

But I am still never going back there, too many other better places to see shows and eat well. F them.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:48 PM   #1824
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I had a Boyd higher up guy calling me and begging me to come back after I had a parking issue there and refuse to return. I posted this elsewhere but forget where but once I went there and bet ~160k over the day in horse racing. Horse racing is a gold mine for these casinos since they collect ~10% off the top just for taking the bet with 0 risk.

This was a couple weeks after Boyd started charging for parking but you can get it validated if you're above a certain level (I had their highest level which is not even advertised and need to be specially invited). Get my parking validated, get to parking deck, validation doesn't work and the guy on the radio says I need to go back in to get it validated.

Go again, same issue.

Parking is only $7 and I felt like paying to just get out of there but it's the principle that I just gave them 16k of risk free money and they're making me pay for the pleasure.

Go back and a security guard intervenes and explains that I need to gamble at the casino in order to get my parking validated. I point to the sign that says it's a perk for people of a certain level and point out I'm of that level. He says it doesn't matter. I say I bet tons in the sportsbook that day. Finally he relents and validates it saying this is a one time thing and next time I need to gamble otherwise no free parking (ignoring the fact that I did gamble, the sign says you just need that status and nothing about having to gamble).

Parking worked, I left, drove to Sam's Town, traded in all my points for freeplay (~17k), ran it through at $1 JoB, cashed out, and never came back

Around a month after it happened someone from Boyd called to ask if I was doing okay and I explained the situation to him. He said I'm sorry but that is our policy. So I said okay and told him I'm never coming back. He didn't seem to care.

Around January (so ~7 months after parking implemented and the end of their 4Q which I believe was below expectations) I start getting 2-3 calls a day from Boyd. Sent to voicemail every time, but same story. We miss you and wondering what we can do to get you back, etc. We'll give you the world, blah blah.

I finally picked up a couple days ago and talked to the guy. Explained my position that it doesn't make me feel valued that after I give them tons of money I need to stand in a line and basically beg for parking validation and that I would never come back and hung up. He called back so I sent him to voicemail.

I think a lot of casinos are struggling due to parking.
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Which Boyd place is this?
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