If you want to think so, sure, whatever.

Feel better now ?

Mr Wynn wanted to put a giant lake and boardwalk in back along with a new hotel tower. One he got run from the company they revisited that plan and ultimately cancelled it.

I think Wynn has basically killed off *all* future Las Vegas developments due to demand not being there anymore.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikmat.../#3dfc1a0a339e

The $3bln that was earmarked for Wynn West is going to be invested in Macau instead. On their last earnings call they said there’s gonna be a couple more years of design and development for Wynn West which basically means the project is on hold.

You mean all Wynn development? Resorts World is still going and the Drew will too eventually.

Yeah, Wynn development that is... although I wouldn't count on the Drew opening anytime in this millennium.

Feel the same, if anything more amused on how passionate you are on the semantics of the subject. Hey, whatever floats your boat I guess.

All Wynn Vegas development. They expect a higher return on invest in Macau and use the money there instead.

Resorts World recently settled their lawsuit with Wynn who accused them of copying their exterior design to swindle people into believing the two resorts are related. Not sure how excited Wynn is about them opening next door.

Just last month, The Drew moved their expected opening date back to 2022 so developers can gain more certainty about the construction budget. That’s fancy speak for “we’re one major hiccup away from abandoning the project”. The only thing less likely than them opening within the next three years is keeping that name. Naming a resort for your child who had a highly marketable name and was killed fighting for our freedom in Iraq would be one thing. If your kid had a name that’s hard to pronounce for non-native speakers and died from an overdose, that might literally be the worst fit for a Las Vegas resort.

The Drew can differentiate itself among Strip casinos by offering free parking for locals who will then uber to the airport to catch flights out of town ? Droves of people, enough to fill a 10,000 car facility, reportedly may be expected to take them up on the offer.

With proper desgin, foot traffic exiting the parking structure can be forced to traverse the gaming floor .... CPA is one otherwise empty parking space, for local residents who will pass through twice per airport trip.

Discussion on VSIN the other day suggests that most new development that HAD been touting 2020 is now more likely to be 2021 and that this likely will include Circa. Of the three (RW, Drew, Circa), the consensus was that Circa was apt to be the only one capable of making a 2020 deadline for opening...

Saw that VV tweet earlier. Should be interesting to see what happens. Granted, I think Wynn jacked up their resort fees last week so expect that again with MGM.

Just got back from staying at MGM. Resort fees were $41 per day (including tax I believe) and then my parking was free since I am a gold member. I took a ticket when I first arrived in the garage and then when I exited I just swiped my gold card and I got through. I believe it said parking would have been $30 if I didn’t have free parking

One reason that MIGHT have some bearing on the decision to roll back parking.

We used to stay there when they hosted UFC fights. Poker room, dining choices, just walk the hallway to the arena and forget the crowds outside trying to get inside.

Soon after the parking fees started, Honey and I ate dinner at one of the MGM Grand restaurants and saw KA at the MGM Grand that same night.

$24 for parking despite the money we dropped in the place that night.

I told them, rather quietly and objectively but with firm resolution, when they would not accept our receipts as a sort of unofficial validation for the parking, "I am never coming back here."

That was just us.

Multiply that by 10 or 20 thousand (hopefully more by a large factor) and maybe they are seeing the error of their ways.

One can hope.

But I am still never going back there, too many other better places to see shows and eat well. F them.

I had a Boyd higher up guy calling me and begging me to come back after I had a parking issue there and refuse to return. I posted this elsewhere but forget where but once I went there and bet ~160k over the day in horse racing. Horse racing is a gold mine for these casinos since they collect ~10% off the top just for taking the bet with 0 risk.

This was a couple weeks after Boyd started charging for parking but you can get it validated if you're above a certain level (I had their highest level which is not even advertised and need to be specially invited). Get my parking validated, get to parking deck, validation doesn't work and the guy on the radio says I need to go back in to get it validated.

Go again, same issue.

Parking is only $7 and I felt like paying to just get out of there but it's the principle that I just gave them 16k of risk free money and they're making me pay for the pleasure.

Go back and a security guard intervenes and explains that I need to gamble at the casino in order to get my parking validated. I point to the sign that says it's a perk for people of a certain level and point out I'm of that level. He says it doesn't matter. I say I bet tons in the sportsbook that day. Finally he relents and validates it saying this is a one time thing and next time I need to gamble otherwise no free parking (ignoring the fact that I did gamble, the sign says you just need that status and nothing about having to gamble).

Parking worked, I left, drove to Sam's Town, traded in all my points for freeplay (~17k), ran it through at $1 JoB, cashed out, and never came back

Around a month after it happened someone from Boyd called to ask if I was doing okay and I explained the situation to him. He said I'm sorry but that is our policy. So I said okay and told him I'm never coming back. He didn't seem to care.

Around January (so ~7 months after parking implemented and the end of their 4Q which I believe was below expectations) I start getting 2-3 calls a day from Boyd. Sent to voicemail every time, but same story. We miss you and wondering what we can do to get you back, etc. We'll give you the world, blah blah.

I finally picked up a couple days ago and talked to the guy. Explained my position that it doesn't make me feel valued that after I give them tons of money I need to stand in a line and basically beg for parking validation and that I would never come back and hung up. He called back so I sent him to voicemail.

I think a lot of casinos are struggling due to parking.

Which Boyd place is this?

It was downtown and the validation issue was with the California. The whole setup is confusing too because the surface parking lot that says "Main street casino" at the time didn't even validate that parking lot as it's not theirs (it belongs to the California apparently and you need to validate it there even though no sign says California)

This day the issue was with the attached parking garage though (the one that has the elevator directly to the casino).

I only really played there once or twice a week, whenever I wanted to go that Vegan place downtown or if there was a good band playing. Always gave action though even though technically I didn't have to due to my status.

Ill believe MGM going back to free parking when i see it. Even if they do i guarantee they jack up resort fees or come up with another great MGM type of idea to cover it. Have not been to an MGM property (besides mandalay bay) in forever.. like years and ive lived here for 12 years and work on the strip thats how much i hate mgm for ruining Vegas, **** those scumbags.

You didn’t bet $160K at the Fremont race book or was it another Boyd casino?

Free parking will be available at each resort as it opens. We couldn’t be more excited to open our doors and get back to doing what we do best. Continue to follow http://mgmresorts.com for more information.

best thing to come out of this whole virus mess?

First in, First out.

lol, they are treating it now like a perk.

Free parking! Until the locals save us and get us profitable again.

We should ask them to also include:

Free oxygen will be available at each resort as it opens. We couldn’t be more excited to open our doors and get back to doing what we do best. Continue to follow http://mgmresorts.com for more information

one could argue that by "strongly encouraging" mask wearing, that they are making it somewhat more difficult to access that free oxygen.

When it comes to parking, I will never pay...ever. I would make an exception going to a restaurant with a date. It is good news to hear about MGM, as I wanted to build up points there so I could jump back and forth once in a while with rooms, as I mainly get my rooms at Caesars properties, plus one other place that is too nasty to mention (but it works for me in between Caesars stays..and the rooms are quite nice..still won't mention). I always felt that the MGM was missing out by charging. A lot of people whom play horses would play there, but it rubs people the wrong way to pay for parking until you build up to a certain level to get it free. That and racing forms sets the average person back way too much. I don't pay for forms...ever. Free for me at Caesars properties.

It is good to see that MGM is going to free parking. They really cost themselves a lot of business, because locals, semi locals, and those who come into town often aren't into parking fees, or resort fees for that matter. The day I ever pay a resort fee anywhere will be my first. I would stay up all night or sleep in the car before ever paying a resort fee.