This is not a coronavirus thread. It's a thread about how poker in Vegas is being impacted by the pandemic. That being said, I don't understand why someone immunocompromised would go to restaurants or the grocery store. I went many months without going to either during the start of the pandemic. If I was at risk I would obviously continue to stay away from such places.

Saying the vaccines weren't rushed is just silly. Of course they were rushed. They had to be rushed. These vaccines were deployed in record time.

No, honey, you don't get to punt on this by making a completely unsupported statement of fact, then when you get called on it say it is the wrong thread. Nor is the burden of proof on the side that the vaccine is safer than the disease. That is not a "wild theory." It is what nearly every medical professional has been telling the public since the vaccines were in clinical trials.

But because I'm not a lazy and uninformed troll, I will rise to your challenge and hit you with some facts. By definition, the FDA will not grant an emergency use authorization unless: "The known and potential benefits of a COVID-19 vaccine must outweigh the known and potential risks of the vaccine for use under what is known as an Emergency Use Authorization." See https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...questions.html. Yes, that's not the primary source for the guideline -- you can find it if you care to. What does that mean? The FDA would not have authorized the vaccines for young, healthy adults unless the data from the clinical trials indicated that the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the harms. It is literally the reason why we require clinical trials before we greenlight any medication. To measure that very thing.

Or consider this: the seasonal flu is by all metrics less dangerous than COVID, and doctors heavily promote the flu vaccine for the very same reason -- the side effects of the flu vaccine are incredibly minor compared to the risks of the flu.

There, I met my burden of production for you, buddy. Burden of proof is on you to support your as-of-yet completely unsupported, contrary to common sense, and contrary to all evidence statement that the vaccine is somehow riskier than COVID. Good luck with that.

^^^

I was just checking back in to see if there was a winner of the contest. Sheeeeeeesh!!!

Sorry, I'm not going to read something that has nothing to do with this thread. There are multiple coronavirus threads for you to discuss that in.

Aria has no plexiglass but they still have masks. Southpoint has no masks but they still have plexiglass.

You chose to engage with what you now claim is too off topic to further discuss. Let's recap. You quoted my statement that: "The risk of side effects is dwarfed by the risks of the virus--even for young healthy folks," and respond with "That's not true" (my emphasis). I asked you to support your completely voluntary and also completely false challenge, and you said "No you first!" (and then added that the idea that a vaccine is safer than the disease is a "wild theory"). I then gave you the support you asked for, and now all of the sudden WHOA BOY let's not talk about this anymore, too many facts for my comfort zone!

I am sure your thought cabinet has all kinds of ideas rattling around in it that are equally preposterous. Why don't you keep them to yourself next time, OK? The world could do with fewer people who never let their ignorance get in the way of speaking with authority.

You've been the one taking this thread off topic. Then you lose an argument and you say its going off topic.

Says the guy that started on a tangent about New Mexico and Texas climates in a thread about plexiglass in Vegas. I've lived in and been all over both states and you don't know wtf you are talking about.

You haven't posted anything about masks and plexiglass in Las Vegas. At least I'm providing information.

Aria is going to continue to be 8 handed moving forward. 8 or 9 doesn't really make a difference to me personally but more room at the table is always good.

you're correct, it's not permanent

I am so excited for 8 handed with no plexiglass. I will definitely be giving my business to the rooms that stay 8-max.

They just said CNBC that the gaming commission clarified their rules and all casinos can remove plexiglass. Casinos are dropping the mask rule too. Looks like its done.

CNBC must have watched Trooper's latest vlog for that info. Trooper said he was thankful it would be coming down because he is tired of sitting up on his knees to talk over the plexiglass. LoL plexiglass.

Plexi gone at CP, masks optional as of today

Caesars is 8 handed, as is Aria (so i've been told)

My local casino just went from 8 to 9 handed. This blows. Hopefully, we never go back to 10 handed.

LoL, this was posted 3 days ago. Authorities read your post and immediately took action.

The 30-60? I saw it on bravo the week before I was there and was dissapointed I didn't see it again the week I was there.

I'm going to miss the plexiglass. The opening was like a poker glory hole!

Wrong your exact words were,

“ There's a 5% chance you can still get it.“

You did not mention or reference unvaccinated.

Can get it. Not will get it. Can means its possible i.e. you are vulnerable, not that you will get it. There is a 5% chance you are vulnerable if you take the vaccine.

Like when you have a 2 outter there is about a 4% chance you will hit it. You always can hit it.

Learn your English language.

Your statement is also equally untrue. We know with few exceptions covid infection provides subsequent immunity. How long this immunity lasts is unknown. It may be temporary but it may be permanent.

Biased or SARS1 and MERS, similar virii from same family, there is a good chance of long term immunity. Victims of those virii continue to show antibodies and immune response. They are likely still immune 10+ years later. However, those virii are not found circulating so this immunity is not confirmed.

Simply we know after having covid nearly all have acquired immunity. It might be permanent and it might be temporary. The best evidence so far indicates a good level of durability but how long is not known.

I know my English. You don’t have a clue about the science being discussed. It isn’t a 5% chance you can be infected. If immunized your chance of infection is 5% that of a unvaccinated person in the same exposure.

The efficacy does not measure what % “can” be infected. It is a measure of how many will or should become infecte relative to unvaccinated. Maybe X% of the vaccinated CAN be infected. X might even be 100%, maybe everyone can be infected. How many become infected relative the unprotected not the possibility of being infected.

The difference is subtle. It takes more than simple vocabulary. It takes a critical thinking capability and understanding context. Maybe these are beyond you.

The difference between can and will isn't that subtle You still didn't understand my English at first. You could have said what you just said said the first time. Point taken.