RNA does not alter DNA. It's the other way around. Yes that's basic biology.
https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-techn...rna-technology

Look know it all already said it’s impossible for messenger rna to alter our dna or impact gene expression. End of story. He probably writes a lot of biology books used today anyway so it’s what he’s says ok.

This is supposed to be a thread about the masks and plexiglass in Las Vegas poker rooms and when they are going to go away. My excuse for wasting so much of my time in this thread is that I don't wanna play poker with masks and plexiglass.

Turns out we've been told when these things will go away. When the county is 60% vaccinated social distancing goes away, and hence the plexiglass in all casinos. When the county is 70% vaccinated the indoor mask mandate goes away. I really don't care if people don't take it and they get infected and die. I just want the city to open up.

Do you think you are helping our situation? Posting here to give people reasons not to take the vaccine? Do you want it to open up here?

I dont think I'll play live if masks are required...or plexi glass separations. I have a choice of entertainment and was hoping Vegas would be on my list this summer after a long absence...doesn't look like it.

What the hell is wrong with people not getting vaccinated...wtf...

Hopefully a large percentage of the general public shares these sentiments and then we'll see change.

FYP

Biology 101, lecture 1: The human gut contains a microbiome of hundreds of different microorganisms each numbering in the billions. As they replicate and die in their normal life cycle, they release many orders of magnitude more DNA and RNA than present in the half milliliter per dose of the FDA-approved RNA and DNA-based vaccines.

Your assignment due tomorrow is to think about why you haven't turned into a bacterium yet...

what the hell is wrong with people with infinitesimal risk of serious harms from covid being terrified by it ... wtf ...

btw in the UK we are reaching 70% of adult population vaccinated; guess what - covid restrictions have not been lifted yet ... why? a significant part of the population continues to be terrified after mainstream media outlets have been spreading terror for one and half years -

I think these vaccines are great for people on high risk groups; for everyone else it should be an option ... unfortunately emotional blackmail and coercion are rampant at the moment.

To be honest I was awaiting my turn to take the vaccine eagerly. I was desperate to take any step to get out of this nightmare. But then the UK chattering classes started saying vaccinated people would have to continue to wear masks, also we may have to get tested to be able to do x or y; basically not really back to normal at all ... and then I said, sod off -

When what should be the national authorities on infectious disease behave in such an incompetent way they might as well not exist, are you really surprised that people will fill the gap?

Faucci was lighting credibility on fire in the Senate today

As of May 9 the UK was 26.7% vaccinated with 53.1% having received their first dose.
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-vaccin...tionAdjusted=1

Yours is due on why Texas hasn't turned into a smoldering COVID fest. BUT DA RANGERZ GAME!!!

It's almost as if public policy has had little or no effect on infection rates

Thanks for the confirmation J&J uses RNA.

Wrong. 95% efficacy does NOT mean a 5% chance of catching covid. It means you are 19 times less likely than being unvaccinated. So if the unvaccinated risk is 10% your risk is 0.5%. There is plenty of debate on the risk of contracting covid.

Also for most if you are vaccinated even if you contract it then your chances of a bad case are diminishingly small

People that are naturally immune should not be expected to get vaccinated, and they probably shouldn't get vaccinated. There's evidence that it's not a good idea.

Yes some breakthrough but much much much less than 5% of general population.

Btw, eradicating Covid is nearly impossible. No virus with a natural animal host has ever been eradicated. This virus has natural animal hosts. Unless you can eliminate that reservoir or 100% efficacy with 100% vaccinated, it will come back.

What is the risk to those immune to getting vaccinated?

Yeah, this "eradication" thing is an attempt to move the goal posts for political gain. There's only been one human disease ever sort of eradicated (smallpox) that that's been a harm, not a help, since Russia's stock of smallpox is now a biological gun held to the head of a world population with no immunity and no vaccination.

There might be some people in the world stupider than those in charge of the various alphabet soup agencies that manage infectious disease in the US, but you'd have to look on some very short buses to find them.

Well stated ....

TIL some of the world's foremost experts on the human genome, epidemiology and ethics post on 2+2. And wouldn't you know it, they're all in agreement: the people who have actually made careers in those fields, with peer-reviewed and published works for all to see ARE ACTUALLY WRONG.

Eradicating smallpox was actually a bad thing. I'm learning so much today.

I didn't say either of those. I said there's a 5% chance you are not protected if you get the vaccine. That means the chance you will get it if you are exposed versus is only 5% of the chance an unvaccinated person will get it.

Don’t worry, the US has its own stockpile also. The vaccine against it is still produced because of the threat. Even if it did not, we made a vaccine before so we could do it again. And even if we forgot how, cowpox still does exist and is a natural vaccine against smallpox. We figured that out over three hundred year ago.

Just because I don’t align with the masks forever and forced vaccinations for all crowd doesn’t mean I align with you opposite but equally extreme position.

No, creating a situation where there are stockpiles of a hyper-deadly virus, and no population immunity at all, is a VERY bad thing.

No one knows what the mortality rate of Variola major would be in today's population, but it would be extremely high as most have no exposure, no vaccination, and now increasingly the same for their mothers so no passive immunity.

Oh, and the labs it's stored in tend to lose it:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/s0708-NIH.html

and blow up from time to time:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...t-or-destroyed

So even if you have an absurdly naive view of human morals and think no one would ever realease it intentionally, you know these clowns will screw up bad enough they release it eventually. But don't worry, those same clowns have a vaccine stockpile that they're just sure will save you

We do have a stockpile. And we're as absurdly incompetent with it as the Russians are.

In theory it would be possible to put the vaccination machinery back in place, but anyone with a brain knows it would take many months to do so, during which time a respiratory virus with well over 50% mortality in a population with no immunity would be doing its thing.

Who are these "naturally immune" people and how do they know for sure they have this purported natural immunity? If you mean asymptomatic carriers, they should most definitely still get vaccinated because they can - and do - pass the virus to others. If you mean people who had COVID already, they're being advised to get vaccinated too as long as enough time has passed since they were afflicted.