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Originally Posted by Turyia
people say this is true, and i think i even saw an article here about aria getting fined for trying to keep someone out of the high limit area who wanted to observe.
That said, i don't get it. can't they always tell you to gtfo if you try to play something they don't want you to play or go somewhere they don't want you to go? My understanding was that the casinos right to kick you out was absolute.
I wondered about that when I read that article. But it was two Gaming agents who hadn't identified themselves to the casino that were being rousted. How would this have gone if the two guys observing the game hadn't been Gaming agents and had persisted?
Issuing you a trespass order simply for exercising your right to observe would almost certainly land them neck-deep with Gaming. So I'm guessing the casino would aim to avoid that. And that article does suggest that's what they did.
In the article they stated when the still-unidentified-as-agents observers asked about the open-access law after being told to leave, the casino suit simply stated that they would surround the game with a ring of security guys to block the view if that's what was necessary. So they were sorta, barely, trying to play by the letter of the law while still making it a private game. Nope.
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Originally Posted by bigpotpoker
Are they allowed to run private games in vegas, or shut out players? I remember merson tweeting something how he wasn't allowed to play. J/w cuz i saw a game at aria going on the other day and wasn't listed on bravo.
That remains for me a somewhat fuzzy topic. Some casino people believe they absolutely cannot offer a private game. Others believe they can. Others believe they can use tricks to keep unwanted players out (like proclaim the table is officially 7-handed, not 9).
Matt Moore has a post or two where he talks about the efforts the high limit guys go to trying to create private-ish games. From his posts, it sounds like most rooms believe the games have to be open. So the players themselves work hard to exclude the sharks they don't want filling the seats because the poker rooms will not do it. Having the room not put the game on the Bravo list, or to list it with the wrong limits, would be one such technique to try to hide it, and probably not something that'd tick off Gaming.
My own observations of such a thing were during the WSOP a couple years ago when a very large "private" NL game popped up in a corner of Mirage. People who even dared to go over to take a look were very rudely ordered to GTFO by players--they wanted nobody anywhere near them. One guy tried to sit and was more rudely told to GTFO--he had the minimum buy in and a seat was open... but he decided not to press the issue when the players basically relented and stated "fine--maybe we can't keep you out, but if you sit down we're breaking the game". After hearing how rude the players were, I was extremely tempted to go stand at the rail just to tick 'em off more. But, well... I had better things to do with my life. Mighta been worth it for the 5 minutes of entertainment that would come of having a couple PokerBiebers throw eggs at me.
Last edited by bav; 03-05-2014 at 08:36 PM.