oh, Horseshoe. haven't played there

If you played it on a boat, it may have been in Tunica. I went there in 2010 and was told there had previously been a pink chip game at Harrahs but that it had recently died.

15/30 games just about always have a $10 small blind.

in another Vegas message board someone posted the question, "what's a 'never go there again' spot in Vegas' and why"?

I was thinking about that. I've visited like 9 times over last 7 years. I've stayed at a dozen different hotels and never had a bad experience. I've seen over a dozen different shows and none were terrible (although LOVE bored the hell out of me recently). I've eaten at tons of different restaurants, no high-end places, but can't think of a single terrible meal I've had, can't even remember a bad server. I've played at a bunch of different casinos and actually the only place I've had bad experience is probably Aria (and I haven't played there since pre-Covid).

kinda amazed at how people are so easily disappointed or upset or find things to complain about. vacationing in Vegas is better and cheaper than any other US metro area and I am always impressed with the hospitality.

well, I guess I thought the pool at Orleans was pretty s***y, and the tourneys there (even though the structure is good) feel like mis-reg-fests. also didn't like the Luxor pool because there is no shade and even when it is empty they won't let you use an umbrella without paying for it. so there's my negative opinions.

I thought the Cirque show "Ka" at MGM Grand was terrible; I literally fell asleep during it. Other Cirque shows I have seen were very good

Imperial Palace was really terrible when I stayed there years ago, but it has been updated and renamed at least twice since then. The old motel building of the Tropicana was also pretty bad years ago - don't know if it is much better now.

Trop will be renovated or leveled soon, property was sold, not sure if finalized but will likely be the location of baseball facilities, stadium and or practice facilities or rooms.

I agree on Ka. Cirque shows are one of my favorite things to do. Every year I take all my nieces and nephews to whichever show comes to Dallas that year. I'll never go see Ka again though. It was the only one where I left thinking I could do almost everything the performers did, lol. It was more about the lights and sets than the performers. I don't like that.

I really liked Ka. liked Mystère. want to see O and may finally be able to next time since I'm no longer a cheap sob. almost walked out of Love.

I still have a few in Vegas to see. I've been to Mystere, Zoomanity, and Ka. Also the copycat at Wynn, I forget what it was called. I thought Mystere was great. It was a slow night and I was solo so they moved me to the very front to fill in empty seats. O will be my next one for sure. And Absinthe.

O and Love were my favourite Cirques by a distance

Ka and Mystere were both good, I'd put Absinthe at this level as well

Zumanity was kinda meh

my main point was that I have really only had positive experiences in Vegas and felt hospitality was always good. I have had nightmare hotel stays elsewhere, and there are plenty of restaurants here at home that have had crappy service or my soup came cold or whatever that I don't want to visit again, but other than maybe an expensive price that brought lofty expectations are there things or places in Vegas you have done that were terribly disappointing? and if so, that's a shame because there are so many options that wasting time on a bad one is almost a tragedy

Absinthe tons of (super adult) fun. Must do, if you're not too prudish.

With cirque shows, I always feel as if there's a storyline thread that I can't quite grasp. But I always enjoy the theatrics and athletic part of the show.

For context, I want to mention I'm staying at the Horseshoe. My first mistake was staying inside all day and never looking outside before deciding to walk over to Bellagio. That's not trivial, btw. My back has been giving me lots of trouble, to the point that I'm using a cane. As soon as I get outside, I realize it's freakin cold. I don't even have a jacket in my room, it's in my car. What the heck, it's been in the 70's all week, now it feels 50's. Then it gets worse when I get out from under the roof and see it's actually raining. But I've been stuck at that stinkin' Horseshoe table all week (not including the Circuit events) and I'm tired of the weird play coming from the promo grinders. I want to try somewhere else.

I do eventually get to the poker room and get a 1/3 seat right away. I see that nothing has changed as far as the way the room is run. No chiprunners, you're expected to bring chips to the table. I've never played anywhere else that does this. It's really sad. The dealers are asking players to make change for them. And the dealers aren't what you would call sharp either. How can Horseshoe hire so much more competent dealers than the mighty Bellagio?

Tiny sample size, but the players might make up for the other stuff. I didn't think a room full of promo grinders would make enough difference to not want to play there, but this trip showed me it was. Again, tiny sample size. At any rate, I did win money at Bellagio, and that should be my primary concern I guess. It's kind of disappointing the room itself is so crappy. Lots of garbage on the floor just like when I played there a couple years ago.

Time to leave, it's raining even harder. Took a $15 cab back to Horseshoe, lol. It was worth it not to get soaked and sick.

I find Bellagio dealers hate their jobs and are pretty miserable to be around.

The Horseshoe promo grinder bunch is insufferable. Many checked down pots between buddies, and slow playing the super nuts to the point where you have to bet a river after 3 checks and then get check raised. Not sure if they are doing the weekly freeroll for total hours played, but that made it worse.

I think the dealers are somewhat better for the Caesars/El Dorado company because they seem to treat their employees better, that goes for dealers in the pit as well.

I don't play at Bellagio but there are better rooms to play profitable 1/3 in, just may not be the most popular ones.

Hello, what rooms can you say will be more profitable at 1/3 than the Bellagio during WSOP 2024? Thanks in advance for your advice

At least you got comped at the noodle bar though.

I have never played at Bellagio. got on the list couple summers ago but the place was such a zoo that the wait wasn't worth it.

also have never played at Horseshoe or Caesars. I am happy with rooms on the ends: Resorts World, Wynn, Venetian and Mandalay Bay (and South Point).

All of those are reasonably nice rooms. Except I don't like the Wynn. The 1/3 guys are sharks, Bellagio players are much easier to handle. Small sample size though. I used to play the uncapped Wynn 1/3 a lot, but that was when I played in the Bay area a lot. I was used to aggression.

I hear (YMMV, etc) that the Spiegelworld show at V is also v good.

Like a reply above, I enjoy the other rooms, Venetian, South Point, Orleans, (have only played the mix at RW), Golden Nugget (downtown).

I can't really say that any of the games are "more profitable", Bellagio has plenty of money walking around in the casino, and that can become poker foot traffic, but its most def stiffer competition than other places.

I played everywhere except Boulder Station.

I'd say there's not too much skill difference at 1/3 between all the rooms, so I'd play somewhere you can buy in for $500+ if you think you'll be a top 3 player at your table.

The rooms really do vary a lot in terms of the players they attract. During my last trip, at the Wynn on a weekday afternoon, I saw a guy open for $8 in EP in a full table and won the blinds. Not sure I'd ever seen that in a 1/3 table in my life before.

Whether or not that proves that those players are all sharks, it's not my idea of a good time.

As you can see, even opinions vary, I will add a variable in this as well which is "time of day". In my opinion, outside of the summer when wsop is in town, 8am-4pm is the nittiest time to play any NLHE in any of the rooms.

I agree that the rooms vary a lot, and I believe the skill difference is there, but maybe better stated is the "player intention" for them even sitting down and being in the poker room is widely different from room to room.

Some people are there to give their ss/retirement money away because they have nothing better to do, some people are there for entertainment and the rush of all ins and bluffs, some people are there for profit, some are there for promos. These ratios are laregely dictated by location and obviously table.

I just know from years of traveling and playing in Vegas, there are rooms where regs/grinders are just sitting and waiting for the casual rec player to sit down so they can target them, and there are rooms where the casual rec player will fit right in unoticed (and maybe have an edge). The question in all honesty is whether you want to battle and win against better competition, or do you want the easier money in a softer game.

you are basing the reputation of the Wynn on one hand of 1/3 you witnessed?

there are lots of hands across lots of tables across different hours across different days. if you've never seen anything like that any other time than you either don't pay attention, have a selective memory, or haven't played much