Hmmm, and you are "The Science" envoy on this thread? re-infections are extremely rare, read this study -->

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...vid19/june2021

On the other hand unfortunately many people vaccinated are getting infected.

Live Clark County Covid meeting going on now to see if they will mandate Mask's again,etc.

Most of us unvaccinated are unvaccinated by choice and have little to no fear of getting infected. How many times it has to be said, this virus is not very dangerous for the young(+ish) and healthy(+ish) -

Life is full of risks but when life itself is more important than living what's the point?

Maybe I’m dense, but getting sick is very -ev in my book even if you don’t die and getting a vaccine is so easy. Why not just do it?

I also get the flu shot every year because getting sick sucks.


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Fear of the magnetic tracking devices i guess.

My point, which continues to go skyrocketing over your head, is that whatever the risk may have been, the presence of the Delta variant has substantially increased it. A study by the University of Missouri (which, unlike your UK study, is actually relevant) showed a reinfection risk of less than 1%. But that study was performed before the emergence of the Delta variant.

Look, I know it's a manly man thing with you. I concede. Your penis is immense and you can do whatever you wish. If you're fully vaccinated, by all means come to Vegas. It's a dumb idea and a dumb act right now with Vegas being the leading Covid hotspot in the country, but you's got's, y'know, FREEDUMB.

Even Fox News admits that people who get vaccinated do, in fact, go on living.

That said, may I borrow your wise saying, "Life itself is more important than living" for a t-shirt? It would go perfectly with one of those "I'm with Stupid (arrow)" shirts. I could sell them as a matching pair.

Let me try to untangle this. If life itself is more important than living, should you stop living so that you can enjoy life? Hmm. How Zen.

im surprised he hasnt tried to go postal at his place of employment. I mean, working for the man detracts from living, so he should technically just stop working too.

I wouldn't exactly say that, but if eligible individuals are passing on the vaccination, then I'm not exactly sure why we should give a ****.

Give your Grandma and mom a big hug, and tell them how you don't give a rat's ass for their wellbeing.

Make sure to introduce yourself to the other players at your poker game and explain you CHOOSE not to get vaccinated.

I wonder how well sales would go for a shirt that says,

"I'm NOT vaccinated, I'm too stupid ."

DeSantis 2024

Most employees of strip properties are already vaccinated at strip properties. Plane after plane arrives with visitors from all over the country. So in order to lower Vegas Covid infections they mandate masks for the vaccinated but not the visitors of unknown vaccination status?

Are their any leaders left?


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There not their!!!!!


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What about the approximately forty-eight million children too young to get vaccinated?

Morbidity of those under 12 is less than a fully vaccinated adult. To me that’s reason enough without factoring in the suffering from learning loss, social development etc. Kids have a vaccine simply by being a kid. I think it will be quite a long time until these vaccines get approved for infants for example.

But the virus is far more dangerous to a HUGE percentage of the population.

And seriously, who wants to be sick and feel like ****? Even having minor symptoms is annoying. I get flu shots too because the last time I caught it those days were miserable. I had zero fear of death but couldn’t stand feeling like ****.

The U.S. surgeon general this week said if you are vaccinated you are “very well protected against hospitalization and death.” Also, he said nearly all deaths are among the unvaccinated.

Which makes it even crazier that localities are going back to masks for vaccinated peoples, against CDC guidance.

Something was announced a few weeks ago that it was much longer than originally thought. Basically your lifetime.

Does it have anything to do with there not being any verification of who is vaccinated and who is unvaccinated? Since a large enough percentage of the general population in the US fall into both the anti-vax and anti-mask categories, you get a situation where these people are incentivized to lie and thus you now need to implement a a blanket policy to enforce masks on everyone to close the easily exploitable loophole?

Also, the government has a role in protecting the general population. When enough of them are unvaccinated and refuse to wear masks, they need to be treated like toddlers so everyone needs to wear a mask to protect the a significant percentage of the population, even if they don't care about protecting themselves. Similar to seatbelt laws.

The vaccines are wonderful and they protect you exceptionally well from illness and death. An argument for lockdowns, mask mandates, etc because of the unvaccinated is denying the very real protection that the vaccines provide.

The government only has a (debatable) role in informing the general population of the risks of every day life. Everything beyond that is the responsibilty of the individual. When a cure for a disease is available and some choose not to take it it is not the responsibility of the government to mandate the cure. We disagree where you say they need to be treated like toddlers when I say they need to be ignored.

Seatbelt laws are a perfect example of this because I am at no risk from those who choose to stupidly not wear seatbelts, unless the very minuscule chance that a non-seatbelt wearing individual is ejected from their car and catapulted into me injuring or killing me. I don’t concern myself with that risk.

The thing is this is an ever evolving virus; it’s completely feasible(inevitable) it’s given the chance evolve in the unvaccinated into a variant that would now effect the vaccinated.


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If that’s the case with vaccines that are 97% effective vs serious illness and death then there’s a good argument that we should let the virus run it’s course and not delay the inevitable.

Your "perfect example" is actually a terrible analogy, because you cannot hurt other people by not wearing a seat belt (actually, people who don't wear seat belts hurt others by putting undue strain on the healthcare system, but we'll ignore that aspect for now). In contrast, you can indeed hurt other people by not getting vaccinated.

A more apt analogy would be choosing or not choosing to obey traffic laws. You don't have the freedumb to go 100 mph on the freeway even if you're driving a rocket-powered armored truck (analogy: marvelous immune system), because your actions would affect others besides you.

I'm appalled when I hear people dismissing the possibility of infecting others.