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Old 10-17-2017, 01:16 AM   #18776
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I say "a daily vlog like troopers" and you decide to compare it to Casey Neistats vlog.

wow. I dont even know if I should try and argue with you.
****ing cracking up over here. Nice one Mitsi lol.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:19 AM   #18777
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Thumbs up. Dude has legit rap skills. Too bad Trooper's poker skills aren't as legit. His most recent loss has put him back in the red for the month. I played 2/5 for a few hours today and won another boosted board. It's not as tough as Trooper makes it out to be.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:38 AM   #18778
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Troopers typical vlog is coffee, talking about editing, standard vegas shots, coffee, losing at poker and moaning.

I just had a quick look at the last month vids of Caseys. Germany, indonesia, helicopter rides, Vegas bachelor party, scooter rides, mexican boarder, housten and first class travel.
and he has made about 12 or so vlogs in that time.

Do you think his vlogs would take a little longer to edit? Or are they up there with Troops vlogs? Idiot
Neeme says it takes him about 8 hours to edit a vlog. So, I think 4 hours of editing per ten minutes of footage sounds reasonable if you are doing a vlog that involves syncing footage to music. Editing is separate from capturing video. An hour seems ridiculous unless your vlog is just you talking to the camera with minimal editing.

I've actually never watched a Neistat video, but I've read that he has a consistent format that makes editing easier. He might have it easier than Trooper because he probably has a much more obvious narrative to build from his footage that he had in mind from the beginning.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:09 AM   #18779
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4 hours of editing
2 hours watching YouTube videos
6 hours playing poker
8 hours sleeping
4 hours eating, delivering hats, and getting Starbucks
This seems about right. Maybe 9-10 hours of sleep because he gets SUPER tired when he is awake for 15+ hours. Needs extra rest at that point.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:51 AM   #18780
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Re: Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs (NO 2017 REG ACCOUNTS)

From a quick google search, it looks like people will mistakenly think they are able to argue on a topic they actually know nothing about after doing a quick google search.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:57 AM   #18781
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4 hours of editing
2 hours watching YouTube videos
6 hours playing poker
8 hours sleeping
4 hours eating, delivering hats, and getting Starbucks
Are you saying he spends 0 hours studying?
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:07 AM   #18782
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How much of that 6 Horus is playing and how much is walking around the casino/attached mall?
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:13 AM   #18783
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Troop's format is the same everyday and he doesn't do hand graphics. If it still takes him 4hrs to edit 10min of him walking around with a camera in his face I'd be pretty surprised.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:42 AM   #18784
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From a quick google search, it looks like people will mistakenly think they are able to argue on a topic they actually know nothing about after doing a quick google search.
So you cant learn anything from a quick google search?

Better hit those encyclopedias when you need to find something out
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:41 AM   #18785
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Troopers vlogs are 3 min of vegas scenery and a 10 minute unedited rant which takes him 0 minutes to edit because its unedited. He's probably gotten the process down by now id be surprised if he spends more than 2 hours a day editing.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:52 AM   #18786
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It just doesn't make sense while you would disregard that it's time consuming and distracting and conclude he only doesn't do it because you think he was losing while doing it (his Hendon mob would disagree).

Idk maybe it's because you don't know how much time and energy shooting and editing actually takes away from him so you discount it as a valid reason altogether, perhaps.
You're correct - I had no firsthand knowledge of what it takes; however, I do know that Boski's vlog certainly wasn't chock full of cuts, layered graphics, and other bells and whistles as compared to other vloggers. You also seem to be taking a lot more offense from my hypotheses than one would think a person in your shoes would if indeed you were "correct," in which case you'd probably just drop it and move on.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:23 AM   #18787
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So even if he makes $1,000 to $2,000 a month vlogging, that is enough for him to get by.

Trooper makes nowhere near this much from vlogging
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:53 AM   #18788
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Vlogging is a business where only the top few percent of people make the majority of the money. Most successful poker players will have too high of an opportunity cost to keep vlogging long term because it is such a niche field.

What separates Trooper is that his opportunity cost is so low that vlogging actually makes sense for him. He's not giving up a decent paying job or a decent winrate to vlog. So even if he makes $1,000 to $2,000 a month vlogging, that is enough for him to get by.

With his hats, he actually makes $1,000+ from his different mini businesses and is content running around town delivering hats and editing a vlog about his deliveries if it puts a decent roof over his head, gases his car, and pays his utilities.

That's why I think he will be vlogging for a long, long time. He's got nothing better going for him and frankly nothing else to do day in and day out.
Sharp post.

I think this is spot on..
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:57 PM   #18789
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You also seem to be taking a lot more offense from my hypotheses than one would think a person in your shoes would if indeed you were "correct," in which case you'd probably just drop it and move on.
Production Teams/Shills gonna Production Team/Shill

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Old 10-17-2017, 02:31 PM   #18790
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Re: Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs (NO 2017 REG ACCOUNTS)

Joe Ingram interviewed Trooper for Live at the Bike yesterday. Right now the 1hr 11 minute interview is only available on LATB's twitch channel. In order to view it you must be subscribed to the channel. If you have Amazon Prime then you get 1 free twitch subscription a month so I went ahead and subscribed to LATB for free but i have not yet watched the interview.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:12 PM   #18791
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Joe Ingram interviewed Trooper for Live at the Bike yesterday. Right now the 1hr 11 minute interview is only available on LATB's twitch channel. In order to view it you must be subscribed to the channel. If you have Amazon Prime then you get 1 free twitch subscription a month so I went ahead and subscribed to LATB for free but i have not yet watched the interview.
Saw about 40 minutes of it live yesterday. Came on here to see what people thought of it. Joey was, as usual, very kind to Trooper. I genuinely want to root for Trooper but he makes it sooo hard. Several times Trooper went out of his way to say that Trolls don’t bother him and that he in some weird way he controls them.

He was later asked if he wants to play poker for the rest of his life or settle on other things...Troop stated he didn’t want to play forever and had a few things planned. Joey asked a couple times what those were and of course Trooper didn’t have an answer....or didn’t want to say for whatever reason. They took call ins and a few people told him Troop was a cheap ass. Others called to thank him for his content and to ignore the trolls, which he again went out of his way to say how trolls don’t bother him in the least. It was an awkward/funny/disappointing interview but props for at least going on LATB and facing the firing squad.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:14 PM   #18792
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Joe Ingram interviewed Trooper for Live at the Bike yesterday. Right now the 1hr 11 minute interview is only available on LATB's twitch channel. In order to view it you must be subscribed to the channel. If you have Amazon Prime then you get 1 free twitch subscription a month so I went ahead and subscribed to LATB for free but i have not yet watched the interview.
It was on You Tube LIVE yesterday..wonder why they don't keep it there after?
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:17 PM   #18793
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Will be interesting to see how Trooper plays an entire multi-hour session next week vs Neeme, Owen, and the rest at the Bike..
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:50 PM   #18794
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Will be interesting to see how Trooper plays an entire multi-hour session next week vs Neeme, Owen, and the rest at the Bike..
I think he'll play more disciplined than usual, but extremely nitty and boring.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:55 PM   #18795
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Troop will lose as much money as he's willing to put on the table in that game.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:01 PM   #18796
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A few notes from the interview:

Trooper admitted his YouTube thumbnails and titles suck.

Trooper says he is very close to changing the game for all poker vloggers. (later mentioned something big coming up in 3 weeks)

Trooper evades question of whether he was a winning player. Re-emphasizes that he knows good players who have had breakeven years (obviously meaning Limon).

Trooper doubles down on not paying the weight loss bet because PokerKraut is a primadonna.

Trooper says he might have groupies. Said he has a date tonight but doesn't vlog dates anymore because of the haters.

Trooper admits that he used poker as a way to be lazy. Admits you can't be successful at poker being lazy.

Trooper's cockiness seemed to make Chicago Joey a bit uncomfortable.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:01 PM   #18797
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... Maybe 9-10 hours of sleep because (Trooper) gets SUPER tired when he is awake for 15+ hours.
Needs extra rest at that point.
Trooper is good for a minimum of 12 hours of sleep a day.
The guy can't get out of his apartment before the sun goes down.

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Old 10-17-2017, 04:13 PM   #18798
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Will be interesting to see how Trooper plays an entire multi-hour session
next week vs Neeme, Owen, and the rest at the Bike..
No doubt in my mind Trooper makes excuses before/early in the session.

Trooper: "I'm tired" or "I have a headache" or "My tummy hurts"

Zero chance Trooper does not lay in an excuse,
then makes himself out to be a hero for carrying on in the face of adversity.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:23 PM   #18799
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It was on You Tube LIVE yesterday..wonder why they don't keep it there after?
They would rather the Twitch subscribe ($4.99/month), then having it be available free on YouTube obviously.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #18800
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A few notes from the (Trooper) interview:
What/Where can I find this interview ???
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