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08-09-2017 , 06:35 PM
It's kind of crazy that instead of never publishing that vlog, The Advantage Player has now spent a ton of time writing defenses of a position he should have never published in the first place.

The born in the 90s crowd... not a ton of forethought in that group. Maybe it's just being young, dumb and full of you know what :shrug:
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08-09-2017 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Trooper's abortion last night his Let's Go vlog is dangerously close to more thumbs down than up. Currently 149 UP and 121 DOWN..
Video is way too long. Not sure why he thinks it's a great idea to put up a video that is over 2 hours.
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08-09-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
No one is going to negative free roll themselves in this whole of a mess. There's no benefit to admitting to such beliefs


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Sounds like you believe soft play (colluding) equates to cheating. Would soft play be the same as marking cards? Both are cheating? Well then my friend. Daniel Negraenu? Cheated in one of the big events. Because he soft played and vocalized it out loud.

He's never getting into pots with another particular pro. Guess the face of poker is a cheater too


My man, do your self a HUGE favor. Turn Tapatalk off notifications. Put the phone in your pocket. Go outside the rest of the afternoon. You're walking yourself down a path you don't need to walk. Sometimes in life it's best to shut our voice holes and quietly go do something else for a little bit. Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs

Check the ego this is meant to help you not antagonize you.
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08-09-2017 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Hey, it's all the guys that play at Winstar.
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08-09-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
Sounds like you believe soft play (colluding) equates to cheating. Would soft play be the same as marking cards? Both are cheating? Well then my friend. Daniel Negraenu? Cheated in one of the big events. Because he soft played and vocalized it out loud.
Soft play is a form of collusion. Is there a way to define collusion and cheating so that collusion is not a form of cheating?

As for Negreanu, here is an example of him calling out Men the Master for having his people soft-play against him. If he soft-played someone else, I suppose that would make him a hypocrite.

Of course, what Negreanu does is irrelevant when it comes to judging your actions. It would be a logical fallacy to appeal to whatever authority you think Negreanu holds.
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08-09-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
My man, do your self a HUGE favor. Turn Tapatalk off notifications. Put the phone in your pocket. Go outside the rest of the afternoon. You're walking yourself down a path you don't need to walk. Sometimes in life it's best to shut our voice holes and quietly go do something else for a little bit. Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs

Check the ego this is meant to help you not antagonize you.
I am very calm about this matter and none of this offends me in any way. It's like random banter. I appreciate your suggestion As for wasting my day, etc. I generally only post on here when I'm at the tables. In between hands. Like right now. At the tables.

The only thing I'm "guilty" of is soft play. And while under 20 people itt (a bit more on the vlog itself) have voiced their opinions on the matter. There are those who believe it isn't "cheating" and those who do.
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08-09-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
Guess the face of poker is a cheater too
You act like this would be shocking as if many of the biggest names in poker aren't shady as **** and haven't been exposed for committing a wide range of immoral acts. These guys aren't out playing patty-cake. These are gamblers and degenerates often just looking for a way to make a quick buck.

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Video is way too long. Not sure why he thinks it's a great idea to put up a video that is over 2 hours.
WTF are you talking about? It was a live stream. A couple hundred people watched him live for a couple hours. After airing it posts on YouTube. You can watch it or not watch it. You expected him to edit it down?!?
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08-09-2017 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
I am very calm about this matter and none of this offends me in any way. It's like random banter. I appreciate your suggestion As for wasting my day, etc. I generally only post on here when I'm at the tables. In between hands. Like right now. At the tables.

The only thing I'm "guilty" of is soft play. And while under 20 people itt (a bit more on the vlog itself) have voiced their opinions on the matter. There are those who believe it isn't "cheating" and those who do.


AP my point wasn't that you are too emotional or that you aren't currently doing something better.

It's that you're not making yourself look any better with the line you're taking. Focus on your grind and let this be. You've spoken your peace and by your own admission you can't convince others to feel about your position how you feel.

So why would you continue to debate your point?
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08-09-2017 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
WTF are you talking about? It was a live stream. A couple hundred people watched him live for a couple hours. After airing it posts on YouTube. You can watch it or not watch it. You expected him to edit it down?!?
Tonka edits his live streams down, and I watch those.
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08-09-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
WTF are you talking about? It was a live stream. A couple hundred people watched him live for a couple hours. After airing it posts on YouTube. You can watch it or not watch it. You expected him to edit it down?!?
I had the same thought (that it was way too long) when the live stream was still going on yesterday. I went to Youtube to see the comments and noticed that the live stream was still going on. I was surprised and thought it was dumb for it to go on for that long. And I just checked the comments and other people are saying the same thing, that over 2 hours is way too long.
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08-09-2017 , 07:20 PM
Looks like Trooper actually suggested that finding a good 1-2 or 1-3 NL game was going to be difficult and used that as an excuse not to find another game. Wow. He could have walked over to Encore and found some amazing 1-3 games but he seems to hate that room as much as he hates Aria and Bellagio.
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08-09-2017 , 07:43 PM
The only interesting part was the end when he started to get frustrated. In general I find his live streams to be very boring if he isn't addressing haters or getting angry about something. However, I don't think 2 hours is an inordinately large amount of time for a live stream. Pretty sure a lot of streamers stream throughout the day like a fulltime job. For example, if a poker player is streaming his online poker session and that session lasts 8 hours, I'd expect that his stream would last that long as well.
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08-09-2017 , 07:49 PM
Trooper: the turn was another spade. I led out $15....I think.
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08-09-2017 , 08:43 PM
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it. It's his blog so he can do whatever he wants.

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08-09-2017 , 09:03 PM
Hot take, bro!
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08-09-2017 , 09:03 PM
Jealousy
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08-09-2017 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it. It's his blog so he can do whatever he wants.

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Go back and watch all his vlogs. Then if you still think he is awesome, well that then lets the rest of us know what kind of person you are
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08-09-2017 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it.
Because he is so hostile towards everyone else. It should not come as a shock that if you hate the world the world will likely hate you right back.
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08-09-2017 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it. It's his blog so he can do whatever he wants.

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He wears a shirt that reads "Shut the f*** up". What type of response do you think that should elicit?
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08-09-2017 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it. It's his blog so he can do whatever he wants.
Is there a poker vlogger that is more hostile to others than he is? In his latest session he upset someone so much that the guy got up and left. I don't know about you, but I've never chased a player away like that. Someone on 2+2 recently played with him and after Trooper left, someone else at the table said he wouldn't play with Trooper again.

Also, we only heard his side of the story. Would be interesting to hear from the guy he chased away or from someone else.

When I listen to Andrew he often has good things to say about his opponents. Trooper constantly complains about opponents and calls them idiots (he even did this with a cocktail waitress). In his latest video he suggested his opponent was literally crazy.

On his live streams that I have watched he constantly cusses at people and complains about them.
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08-09-2017 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
Why are people so hostile to the trooper? I don't get it. It's his blog so he can do whatever he wants.

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Oh boy, you stepped right in it. Trooper's grown, he can do whatever the **** he wants. He's a 44 year old man with aspirations of one day buying a skateboard. Reach for the stars Troop!
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08-09-2017 , 11:45 PM
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He's a 44 year old man with aspirations of one day buying a skateboard. Reach for the stars Troop!
Legit laughed at this.

Only editorial suggestion would be "44 year old man [child]"
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08-09-2017 , 11:46 PM
I legit laughed at that too
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08-10-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by squid face
OK stud - I have raised a family as a poker pro. In fact my daughter is going to be a junior at a 60k/yr college next year and will graduate debt free. I have made my living gambling since 1992. And me - I say you looked like you were cheating. Soft play is in fact a form of collusion which is in fact a form of cheating
I don't know why you continue to reference your daughter's education and your profession to justify your position.

Incidentally at the Venetian 2/5 game you played with your girlfriend in the same game and soft played against her "which is in fact a form of cheating".

"1st 'Poast'"
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08-10-2017 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Is there a poker vlogger that is more hostile to others than he is? In his latest session he upset someone so much that the guy got up and left. I don't know about you, but I've never chased a player away like that. Someone on 2+2 recently played with him and after Trooper left, someone else at the table said he wouldn't play with Trooper again.

Also, we only heard his side of the story. Would be interesting to hear from the guy he chased away or from someone else.

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We also heard from individuals that enjoyed playng with Trooper on TAA tour. Need to add a little balance to the thread. The negative slant is distorting reality.
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