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09-18-2017 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gilmour
Does anyone ITT have any idea or knowledge about where Trooper gets his cash supply from? Like, he is losing 8 out of 10 sessions he plays- yet he eats on the strip 1-2 times everyday, paying for his car expences, renting a decent apartment and so on.

Where does the cash come from, how come he isnt broke yet with the amount of losses at the tables?
Gypsies gonna Gypsy

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All good suspects in my opinion..
You should get some rest Woot. Werent you just up Effing around w Napotomus on here @ like 3:30am Eastern time /12:30am Pacific ??
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09-18-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
a hand in troops latest vlog, it looks like;
and all really broad estimates here,

guessing pot was about $100, guy bets $70, trooper raises to $200 (with $35 left behind), guy goes all in and Trooper folds getting what I'm thinking is a minimum of approx 15:1 on a call.

All we know is trooper raised $200 leaving $35 behind because he thought the guy was stealing. So the rest of the pot size and bet sizes I have just guessed.
But that was just to build his image.
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09-18-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
It's possible he won't mention the loss if it happens. He did that before and people quickly forgot about it.
He failed to mention the results in one vlog out of hundreds. For all we know he actually won in that vlog but you just want to speculate that he is being deceitful about a big loss when there is no proof of that.

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Originally Posted by Gilmour
Does anyone ITT have any idea or knowledge about where Trooper gets his cash supply from? Like, he is losing 8 out of 10 sessions he plays- yet he eats on the strip 1-2 times everyday, paying for his car expences, renting a decent apartment and so on.

Where does the cash come from, how come he isnt broke yet with the amount of losses at the tables?
Let's not let the facts get in the way of your narrative. Fact is Trooper is winning in September and has only had 2 losing months this year: June and July. He lost a combined $4163 in those months but overall is up $7,569 in poker this year.

Keep in mind, Trooper does not even try to support himself playing poker anymore. He is a purely recreational player. As long as he doesn't take big losses, he is able to pay his bills. This has not been an issue for Trooper as he has proven he can play above break even poker at the smallest stakes in Vegas.

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Originally Posted by Conz
he makes $35ish a day selling hats
I have no clue what the number is but it sounds like the hat business is doing quite well for him.
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09-18-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
He failed to mention the results in one vlog out of hundreds. For all we know he actually won in that vlog but you just want to speculate that he is being deceitful about a big loss when there is no proof of that.
Plus the vlogs he chooses not to make, sometimes on the weekend when it's clear he must have played.
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09-18-2017 , 04:40 PM
If Trooper makes about $1k/month from poker, $1k/month from YouTube/Patreon and $1k/month from Trooperware, I think he could pretty easily support himself. I imagine he pays for most of his food with comps and gift cards, and has an otherwise fairly modest lifestyle in an affordable city.
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09-18-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
If Trooper makes about $1k/month from poker, $1k/month from YouTube/Patreon and $1k/month from Trooperware, I think he could pretty easily support himself. I imagine he pays for most of his food with comps and gift cards, and has an otherwise fairly modest lifestyle in an affordable city.


This quote reminded me of when Worm tells Kanish at the Borgata: "Keep grinding out that rent money, its noble work your doing."

Seems like a lot of effort to "not be held down by the man" and to "do whatever you want" for $36,000 a year pre TrooperWare taxes. He's basically pay check to pay check but instead of pay checks it's Shirt Money deposits and whomever puts money in his BofA or whatever bank.

As someone who's transitioned out of corporate-type jobs if my earning potential was 35-50k a year w/o benefits I wouldn't have left.

Then again Trooper always seems to be content to do just enough to get by so he probably feels like a millionaire rolling around the desert delivery hats by hand, go get em brother.

Oh btw on a rerun of Shark Tank last night from like 3 years ago I say a company that only made shirts with states shapes on then and the word "Home" inside like Texas is Home. Trooper did the exact same thing but with state flags. The man has probably never had an original thought in his head.

Oh wait a friend used to say "Go Gamble" and then Trooper put that on phone wallpaper and hats.... never mind a friend said it first.
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09-18-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Plus the vlogs he chooses not to make, sometimes on the weekend when it's clear he must have played.
He ignored all the people who kept asking about it for the next 2-3 days just like he ignores questions about any topic he doesn't want to answer. If anyone thinks he won I have a bridge on Mars that I can sell to them.

He actually is pretty secretive about a lot of stuff that upsets him. He never mentions his overall results after he used to occasionally do stat updates to brag about them. I've seen fans ask and he ignores them. He never talks about what happened between him and his backer.

The fact that he didn't mention the result in that vlog and mentioned it in others makes it more likely he lost big.
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09-18-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
This quote reminded me of when Worm tells Kanish at the Borgata: "Keep grinding out that rent money, its noble work your doing."
Taj
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09-18-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
He failed to mention the results in one vlog out of hundreds. For all we know he actually won in that vlog but you just want to speculate that he is being deceitful about a big loss when there is no proof of that.
There's no "proof" he can't beat 2-5 either.


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Let's not let the facts get in the way of your narrative. Fact is Trooper is winning in September and has only had 2 losing months this year: June and July. He lost a combined $4163 in those months but overall is up $7,569 in poker this year.
How much is he up at 1-2 and 1-3? What's his winrate at those levels for the year?

He is up that much because he crushed 2-5. Perhaps he is a better player than we think he is.
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09-18-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
If Trooper makes about $1k/month from poker, $1k/month from YouTube/Patreon and $1k/month from Trooperware, I think he could pretty easily support himself. I imagine he pays for most of his food with comps and gift cards, and has an otherwise fairly modest lifestyle in an affordable city.
He hasn't made $12k in a year of poker since he moved to Vegas so he has to be making a lot of his money in other areas. Maybe he dresses up in a costume to make money as a street performer and we just don't know it.
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09-18-2017 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Plus the vlogs he chooses not to make, sometimes on the weekend when it's clear he must have played.
It's hard to have credibility when you say this now but don't say it when it occurs. Fact is he would be called out real quick if this actually happened, but it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by NickMPK
If Trooper makes about $1k/month from poker, $1k/month from YouTube/Patreon and $1k/month from Trooperware, I think he could pretty easily support himself. I imagine he pays for most of his food with comps and gift cards, and has an otherwise fairly modest lifestyle in an affordable city.
More like $600/month from poker but that isn't steady income. He can go on downswings that last a year and a half.

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Originally Posted by Natamus
Oh btw on a rerun of Shark Tank last night from like 3 years ago I say a company that only made shirts with states shapes on then and the word "Home" inside like Texas is Home. Trooper did the exact same thing but with state flags. The man has probably never had an original thought in his head.
I recall the t-shirt company from shark tank being discussed ITT.

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Originally Posted by Steve00007
He ignored all the people who kept asking about it for the next 2-3 days just like he ignores questions about any topic he doesn't want to answer. If anyone thinks he won I have a bridge on Mars that I can sell to them.
Wow, he didn't mention a result in one session from over a year ago. Get over it!
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09-18-2017 , 06:15 PM
I think Trooper just enjoys having people wear his hats and feels good delivering them, and in turn, watching his business grow.

That is worth something...

Something that you money monsters will never understand...

Spoiler:
::drives away in bwm...::
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09-18-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
It's hard to have credibility when you say this now but don't say it when it occurs. Fact is he would be called out real quick if this actually happened, but it doesn't.
It's such a regular occurrence that I never thought it noteworthy. Just scroll through his videos and see which ones are missing for a Friday or Saturday (keeping in mind he posts the day after the session). Here you go:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user...r97vlog/videos
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09-18-2017 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tibrida
Taj


Yea idk wtf my memory was doing there... oh I just got a promo e-mail from the borgata. They are infecting my subconscious
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09-18-2017 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HUMBLE.
I think Trooper just enjoys having people wear his hats and feels good delivering them, and in turn, watching his business grow.

That is worth something...

Something that you money monsters will never understand...

Spoiler:
::drives away in bwm...::


Is a BWM like a fiskar? Some niche brand I haven't heard of?
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09-18-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Wow, he didn't mention a result in one session from over a year ago. Get over it!
You're just pulling my leg. But hey, if you want to believe the guy is honest (and lets face it, you don't believe that), then try doing a weight loss challenge with him.
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09-18-2017 , 09:06 PM
Trooper is never going to get rich from playing poker. But he has achieved a degree of niche fame that 99% of more talented players will never achieve. And by producing an actual product that thousands of people enjoy on a daily basis, he is contributing more to society than 99% of players will as well. If he takes pride in that and enjoys what he is doing, I can't fault him if he doesn't care that much about improving his game.
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09-18-2017 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
It's such a regular occurrence that I never thought it noteworthy. Just scroll through his videos and see which ones are missing for a Friday or Saturday (keeping in mind he posts the day after the session). Here you go:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user...r97vlog/videos
I'm well aware that Trooper doesn't play every day. Most full time players only play 3 to 5 days a week. Trooper has at times taken 4+ days off from poker. He also has at times gone away from doing a daily vlog. Really the daily vlog was just something he planned to do last summer and he's sort of stuck with it.

If this was a huge question mark I would bring it up when it happens. However, Trooper always mentions why he wasn't playing. It shouldn't come as a big shock to you that he is quite lazy.

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Originally Posted by Steve00007
You're just pulling my leg. But hey, if you want to believe the guy is honest (and lets face it, you don't believe that), then try doing a weight loss challenge with him.
I'm not saying he's honest. I'm just saying that you get real fixated about some bull**** that isn't very significant whatsoever. There isn't even an allegation from a player in the game or a smoking gun whatsoever. You are just grasping.

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Is a BWM like a fiskar? Some niche brand I haven't heard of?
Fisker?
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09-18-2017 , 09:41 PM
Checkraisecharles latest vid is pretty good. Brutal hand with the set of 6s. Know exactly what he is feeling. Also, Doug had a great interview with Phil today in his Vlog.
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09-18-2017 , 09:45 PM
Will Brad Owen next have white on white shirts?
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09-18-2017 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I'm well aware that Trooper doesn't play every day. Most full time players only play 3 to 5 days a week. Trooper has at times taken 4+ days off from poker. He also has at times gone away from doing a daily vlog. Really the daily vlog was just something he planned to do last summer and he's sort of stuck with it.

If this was a huge question mark I would bring it up when it happens. However, Trooper always mentions why he wasn't playing. It shouldn't come as a big shock to you that he is quite lazy.



I'm not saying he's honest. I'm just saying that you get real fixated about some bull**** that isn't very significant whatsoever. There isn't even an allegation from a player in the game or a smoking gun whatsoever. You are just grasping.



Fisker?


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09-18-2017 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I'm not saying he's honest. I'm just saying that you get real fixated about some bull**** that isn't very significant whatsoever. There isn't even an allegation from a player in the game or a smoking gun whatsoever. You are just grasping.
So you're actually suggesting there is a good chance he forgot to mention results even though he was reminded of it over and over for at least the next 3 days? He answered other comments that day but he somehow conveniently "forgot" to answer the question that was asked the most? Really?

We don't know how significant it was because we don't know the results of the session.

He left the results out on purpose. That's not grasping. It's just stating the obvious.

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09-18-2017 , 10:46 PM
I guess you can argue that it's okay for Trooper to stop including any of his results because his overall results are insignificant and he really makes his money off of YouTube, hats, etc. now. He hasn't been an overall loser at poker. So I guess someone could go in that direction but he always tries to present himself as a serious player playing to make money, and how long will he sell those hats?

Would be interesting to see the reactions if he took that direction. Some of his fans wouldn't care if he leaves out results because they aren't even into poker.

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09-18-2017 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
I guess you can argue that it's okay for Trooper to stop including any of his results because his overall results are insignificant and he really makes his money off of YouTube, hats, etc. now. He hasn't been an overall loser at poker. So I guess someone could go in that direction but he always tries to present himself as a serious player playing to make money.

Would be interesting to see the reactions if he took that direction. Some of his fans wouldn't care if he leaves out results because they aren't even into poker.
It's a catch-22 for Trooper. Poker and the strip is what his entire vlog is centered around whether he accepts it or not. He's certainly more interesting than other poker vloggers but nowhere near interesting enough to pull off a lifestyle vlog without poker. He has no real friends, an introverted personality, and is terminally lazy.
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09-19-2017 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
It's a catch-22 for Trooper. Poker and the strip is what his entire vlog is centered around whether he accepts it or not. He's certainly more interesting than other poker vloggers but nowhere near interesting enough to pull off a lifestyle vlog without poker. He has no real friends, an introverted personality, and is terminally lazy.

This has to be a level right lol?

Whats more interesting than other vloggers? I can predict pretty closely what goof troops vlogs are going to consist of before even watching/fast forwarding them through the same old drivel. Its literally the same thing over and over again.. Although lately he's thrown in delivering hats which is the first new thing in forever. I watch it for the rare hand analysis which are top notch btw, pure comedic genius! Trooper always has all hands/opponents figured out duh... Just the way he "snook" in the hand with 44 knowing original guy wanted to raise and also knew the button was for sure raising LOL, can't make this stuff up.
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