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04-10-2018 , 01:15 PM
2nd song was good... but stay away with that trap ****....
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04-10-2018 , 01:16 PM
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04-10-2018 , 01:30 PM
Mr Bill Poker Vlog #19 is published! SWEET VICTORY as Mr Bill takes down a tournament! Some MONSTER PLO pots as well!!

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04-10-2018 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Me2theEV
Underrated troll in Boski’s latest was when he fumbled the beginning of the hand history.
Underrated troll move also when he said that his opponent had "A 100% accurate tell that I won't tell you viewers, maybe when I retire."
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04-10-2018 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
If you document your everyday life, eventually your true self comes out. Boski hasn't spewed any vitriol in his jabs at Trooper. He's using dry humor to point out the silliness in some of his actions. I do agree that in comedy, you're supposed to punch up, not down. If people were trolling someone like BikeKing who has it off way worse, lifestyle wise, then I can see a stronger case for bullying.

Basically, vloggers create content for their audience. His subtle jokes about Trooper seem to be his version of the "it's nobody there/I'm not wearing pants/expletive laden songs" bits that Trooper's audience finds hilarious. Two different sets of humor. It looks like to me he's just mocking the silly nature of Trooper's actions, not him as the person.

Jeff seems like a really smart guy whether you like his personality or not, dry/sarcastic humor usually comes along with people of higher intelligence.

....damn, I'm really coming off like a Boski fanboy here. (No ramble)

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100% agree with everything you said there....
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04-10-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenophon
Underrated troll move also when he said that his opponent had "A 100% accurate tell that I won't tell you viewers, maybe when I retire."
So when someone holds their cards up about 6 inches off the felt looking like they're about to toss them in, it really means they're 100% about to fold?
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04-10-2018 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenophon
Underrated troll move also when he said that his opponent had "A 100% accurate tell that I won't tell you viewers, maybe when I retire."
That was a nice one there. Now the question is, does Trooper double down and continue saying things like this and giving Boski material, or, does he admit how crazy some of this stuff sounds and he stops saying things like this on his videos. Of course, that would be admitting he's wrong so I'll go with the former.
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04-10-2018 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
*douche raises hand
+1
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04-10-2018 , 02:44 PM
I do love that Trooper is guarding this tell bc he's worried somebody is going to get in his game and reverse tell him in the 1/2 or 1/3 games he plays.
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04-10-2018 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
maybe an introduction/face shot would be good?

(also, you had QQ99 on the VP machine,and you only kept QQ)

I guess it can go either way? Yeah also the reason I don't is then I wouldn't be able to secretly film and get away with it others can't do it anymore I do this for fun anyway.
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04-10-2018 , 03:16 PM
I think if you include showing people who you are, you will have more than 36 subs. People like to know who they're following.
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04-10-2018 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusJack
Heck Barry G will run it more than once now. Actually, he prefers it.
That's a bit of a mischaracterization of his position. He just did a podcast with Chicago Joey two weeks ago and he was asked specifically about that. He said that although he used to be adamantly opposed to running it twice and would always refuse to do so, he now will do it if asked because his bankroll can't always handle the swings. However, he emphasized that he will never ask the other player to run it twice, but if the other player asks him whether he wants to run it once or twice, Barry tells him to do it whichever way he prefers.

Here's the entire 4+ hour podcast. The discussion about running it twice starts around 2:09:20. Barry's statement that he never offers to run it twice is at about 2:12:35.

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04-10-2018 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Me2theEV
I do love that Trooper is guarding this tell bc he's worried somebody is going to get in his game and reverse tell him in the 1/2 or 1/3 games he plays.
Old guys value "tells" way too much at the 1/2, 1/3 level. He uses this "well they rechecked their cards on a double suited flop so they must be drawing to the nut flush every time, I'm gonna bomb the river if it doesn't come" or "he looked over his left shoulder when the card came out so they must have the nuts" logic and his results are indicative of that. It's so clear in his results and his inability to remember the action when he's talking about a hand, which may have to do with the refusal to take notes during the session. Combine that with the inability to shift gears, except playing more aggressive and getting stacks all in on the flop and you're quickly bleeding $2-3k a month at 1/2.

These types of players at the low stakes are the easiest to exploit because they think that "___ did ___ so it must mean ___ every time", when in actuality they're the one's making the same mistakes over and over again. These type of guys brag about playing poker their whole 40-50-60+ year life, yet they never get better.
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04-10-2018 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
lol, yep. Also some subtle pokes at Neeme with the shot of trying to put his chip stacks in the tray at the end.


So if we strip away all the little shots he takes at Trooper, Neeme, etc, what’s left? A guy who pimps himself out for $100 a dinner.

I just don’t get the Boski love. And I don’t see what the endgame of that kind of behaviour is supposed to be. It’s behaviour I’d expect from an awkward teenager, not a grown “man”.
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04-10-2018 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
So if we strip away all the little shots he takes at Trooper, Neeme, etc, what’s left? A guy who pimps himself out for $100 a dinner.

I just don’t get the Boski love. And I don’t see what the endgame of that kind of behaviour is supposed to be. It’s behaviour I’d expect from an awkward teenager, not a grown “man”.
I am not seeing 'all this love' for Boski. I think its just the louder guys on here that give him props. i dont think its an accurate representation of everyone in this thread.

I think he is a db Beta who tries way too hard. But I still watch and am entertained by the ridiculousness.
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04-10-2018 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
This is exactly the reason many poker rooms don't want to get involved with any independent poker vloggers. All of this random drama and potential bad PR is a liability risk for working with an unprofessional partner.

Guys like Brad Owen and Andrew Neeme work hard to build relationships with poker rooms only to have the image of a poker vlogger dragged through the mud but Tim Watts with situations like this. Instead of talking to the Westgate about how to contain this situation, Trooper (with no legitimate experience dealing with such situations) takes it upon himself to be a hero and solve this crap storm.

As a result he drags Bally's and Planet Hollywood poker rooms into the mix, the poker room manager at those places gets offended, and then Trooper goes on a drama trip demanding to be treated like a VIP and now it's problems for the poker room manager dealing with Trooper fans standing by their hero at the expense of logic and reason...and possibly the reputation of the poker room manager.

Do you think the poker room manager of any other room in Vegas would want to have a poker vlogger host a game now? Heck, they don't even want them filming on their property so people don't associate that as a partnership.

Good job Tim! Way to blow this up even worse than it already was. Seems like the same thing Tim did with the PokerKraut weigh in. It went from being late to the weigh in to welshing on the bet, bad mouthing PK, and then blaming him for everything.

And still people wonder what the common denominator is on all of the bad business dealing that happen around Trooper...SMH.
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Originally Posted by foatie
He really is acting like he's above the rooms on the strip he has a beef with. In actuality he's the exact type of person the Casinos don't want there. He doesn't drink, doesn't tip waitresses (for waters & warm milks), has an overall general disdain for casino employees, doesn't gamble so all of his losses go into other players' pockets, and he stinks up the mood of the game when he's losing instead of playing up the fishies so they stay and lose more money. Why does he think that he deserves any better treatment than he gets? This is a mid life crisis in full effect if I ever seen one.

For someone who hates weed smokers as much as he does, he's the exact type of personality that could use a daily dose of THC. The thing about weed though is it destroys the ego and makes you take a deep introspective look into yourself and everything that makes you the way that you are. That reality may be too much for him to deal with. I try not to pile onto the guy, but he's unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by PokerTravel
Trooper knows he fudged up.

Narcissists dont apologize or admit mistakes.

They blame others instead.

This guy in time will wear his welcome out in Vegas.

Ego is a deadly adversary.
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That time has passed sir. If you speak with locals in the poker community, there is a lot of negative (probably overwhelming) opinion of Tim Watts here in Las Vegas.

I wonder if he left Florida partially for wearing out his welcome there or burning too many bridges in his community.

Most of the support he receives is from fans of the vlog that don't know him too well and just watch his videos. They all are from out of town and meet him face-to-face for however long it takes to hand him $30 cash in exchange for a hat and ask him 1 or 2 questions about his life.

He's known to only contribute cash to a poker game, nothing more. People usually don't like playing with those players other than for their cash. (We like taking everyone's cash, but some players are just fun to have in the game. It's like working with fun co-workers or boring co-workers who hate work and make sure everyone in the office knows that they hate being there.)

Indeed

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Originally Posted by CactusJack
This. IMO its way better to be high when you figure these things out.

Troop has some serious control issues. Sometimes you have to give up some control to figure that out though. Weed/acid/life coach/therapist. Any of the four would blow his vlogs up. Win, win.
LOL yes, write in any one of a plethora of fake, intervention-esque storylines. The more disengenuous, the better.

...amirite?
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04-10-2018 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV

Here's the entire 4+ hour podcast. The discussion about running it twice starts around 2:09:20. Barry's statement that he never offers to run it twice is at about 2:12:35.

FOUR HOUR podcast??? Maybe do some editing. Jeez.
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04-10-2018 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
So if we strip away all the little shots he takes at Trooper, Neeme, etc, what’s left? A guy who pimps himself out for $100 a dinner.

I just don’t get the Boski love. And I don’t see what the endgame of that kind of behaviour is supposed to be. It’s behaviour I’d expect from an awkward teenager, not a grown “man”.
Vlogs aren’t real life. So far A+ feedback from people that have met him irl. New me handled/handles the trolling perfectly, and that’s why he gets less of it.

Troop reacts hard and therefore gets more of it.

Fun to watch imo. But I don’t think Troop it Boski act the same with the camera off as they do when it’s on.
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04-10-2018 , 07:51 PM
Troopers latest tweet about the Westgate situation:

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They still on that ****? I'm on to Monday! Living thw journey and making quality vlogs for those who love em!
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04-10-2018 , 07:54 PM
Yeah, he knows he ****ed up big time and may have soured his relationship with west gate. No wonder he wishes it would just pass ASAP. It will be interesting if he and west gate keep Trooper Thursday after this scandal.
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04-10-2018 , 08:44 PM
Mother of God, Greenstein looks old.
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04-10-2018 , 08:53 PM
JohnnieVibes is playing on LATB Tonight @ 6pm!!! 5/5/10


https://youtu.be/FsjxhIBPK00


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04-10-2018 , 09:11 PM
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Troopers latest tweet about the Westgate situation:
Troopers tweet = sweep it under the rug and moving on. Just like his life attitude of not facing major life issues when they come.


And the “I’ve moved on” excuse is so lame. It’s just a way to avoid criticism, judgement, penalty. Imagine if a bank robber gets caught the next day. He can say “come on guys, I’ve moved on already”. Or a girlfriend saying to her bf after getting caught cheating “hey, it’s in the past, let’s move on”.

The problem that Trooper has with this angle is that he loses trust and credibility. And without them, him as a person and his channel can’t grow.
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04-10-2018 , 09:22 PM
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Troopers tweet = sweep it under the rug and moving on. Just like his life attitude of not facing major life issues when they come.


And the “I’ve moved on” excuse is so lame. It’s just a way to avoid criticism, judgement, penalty. Imagine if a bank robber gets caught the next day. He can say “come on guys, I’ve moved on already”. Or a girlfriend saying to her bf after getting caught cheating “hey, it’s in the past, let’s move on”.

The problem that Trooper has with this angle is that he loses trust and credibility. And without them, him as a person and his channel can’t grow.
This was lost a longtime ago and multiple times since then. It's just reaffirmed when he brags on camera and in his comments about how he has the most integrity in the world and that is his greatest virtue.

It's a very "as I say, not as I do" approach. The fact that he needs to plead his case on having any integrity repeatedly on camera means that he has none.

Fool me once, shame on you. Try to fool over and over again on camera...well, then you must be the Trooper.
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04-10-2018 , 09:33 PM
Yeah, I dont think Troops platform is based on trust or credibility.



So no biggee there.
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