Brad passed him a month or two ago. Brad has over 34k subscribers and Trooper is over 31k.
Boski has over 10k right now. But a much higher percentage of his subscribers are watching his videos. Several recent videos of his have over 10k views. Several recent videos from Trooper have under 10k views. Several recent Jaman videos also have over 10k views. Of course Trooper fans will point out the fact he does almost daily videos.
But those are results one would expect when he focuses on quantity over quality so much.
Hellmuth's is definitely negative once you combine cash and tournaments.
Not even close to accurate. Hellmuth is one of the most successful tournament players of all time but has likely won more in cash games. The most successful cash game players are not the best players but the ones who are able to consistently find big games to play in against inferior competition. And this is where guys like Phil have it made. Rich rec players want to play with Hellmuth even though they know he has an edge on them which is why he is much more successful in cash games than objectively better players. Hint: No one wants to play and lose to personalityless anti social types who spend the entire night watching their ipads or talking about solvers.
What do you think the opportunity cost has been for Trooper for the time spent doing vlog?
If you ever sat in a game he dealt you know that he is well tipped and probably makes at least $30 an hour.
800 vlogs at 4 hours each for production at $30.00 an hour.
800*4*$30=$96,000
Not very much because you are assuming that if Trooper quit vlogging he would spend those hours dealing. Trooper does not like to work in traditional jobs and only does so when he has no other choice and then only enough to scrape by. He could very easily deal and vlog (and has in the past) but chooses not to.
Trooper was one of the most well tipped dealers I ever saw. Especially at a 1/1 game.
I think getting out of dealing was a huge mistake on Trooper's part. He could have probably parlayed that into something game-hosting-wise and would probably be pushing ~50/hr by now easily. I also realize that hourly is outrageous, but I think he would be around that as the brand grew.
That's because you have a job. Poker is a lot less stressful when you have a job to fall back on.
100% correct even working FT I managed to make 3k already this year.
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I've also read that a YouTuber on average makes $1,000 to $3,000 per 1 million views. Trooper's channel has over 13 million total views. So he has made between $10,000 and $40,000 just from YouTube.
I think $25,000 is reasonable.
Even if he made 25,000 where do you think it all went life bills he's easily paying out at least 1,800 per month if not more.
Trooper is definitely down big time this year, but he was overall winners last year. There was an earlier post in this thread about Trooper's long term results. I think it was positive.
Was Trooper a winner at 1-2 and 1-3 NL last year? He ran really well at 2-5 but after he dropped down to 1-2 and 1-3 he stopped winning and it’s been that way for around 9 or 10 months now.
I see a lot people talking about stress in terms of making a living playing poker and saying that Troop should get a job. My belief is that people are who they are regardless of external factors. So if you are stressed in poker, you would also be stressed being a barista. So for me I experience little to no stress in my life as a poker player because it’s just the way I’ve learned to be. And it’s not because I have money. Most all of us (regardless of career) live our lives in a way that raises our lifestyle to the test the limits of our bankroll. I’m perpetually on the verge of being busted but through years of experience I know when I need to buckle down and grind.
When I had deadlines as a software developer I experienced wayyyy more stressed than when I’m down to my last $10K in poker. It’s just been a maturation process to better deal with stress.
So I guess what I’m trying to say is that Troop will feel equal amounts of stress regardless if he quits poker and takes a job.
I’m perpetually on the verge of being busted but through years of experience I know when I need to buckle down and grind.
This only works if you can grind at an hourly rate that enables you to cover or exceed your living expenses. I am not one of those people who says Trooper is a terrible player who knows nothing about poker. He is probably in the top 20-30% of 1/2 to 1/3 players and has a win rate between 1 and 2 bb per hour at those stakes. This is fantastic if your goal is to play poker as a self sustaining hobby that provides a little side income but is completely inadequate for sustaining a living.
And the good thing for Trooper is that despite his protests to the contrary he recognizes this and is not trying to support himself playing Poker and hasn't since early on in his move to Vegas. He vlogs, sells merchandise and probably has several other side hustles that don't make it into the vlog. If he is break even or better at poker that is good enough for him to have content for the vlog and draw in a poker audience that will support his shop and subscriber count.
I see a lot people talking about stress in terms of making a living playing poker and saying that Troop should get a job. My belief is that people are who they are regardless of external factors. So if you are stressed in poker, you would also be stressed being a barista. So for me I experience little to no stress in my life as a poker player because it’s just the way I’ve learned to be. And it’s not because I have money. Most all of us (regardless of career) live our lives in a way that raises our lifestyle to the test the limits of our bankroll. I’m perpetually on the verge of being busted but through years of experience I know when I need to buckle down and grind.
When I had deadlines as a software developer I experienced wayyyy more stressed than when I’m down to my last $10K in poker. It’s just been a maturation process to better deal with stress.
So I guess what I’m trying to say is that Troop will feel equal amounts of stress regardless if he quits poker and takes a job.
Great Mexican vlog. You and Neeme are definitely at the top of the pyramid in terms of content and production.
As far as Trooper, he seems to be one of those people who just can't live with having a boss. People who value the value called security will probably never understand. Many of the criticisms against Trooper in this thread are from people who like to impose their security oriented values on not only someone who would rather be an entrepreneur, but a lone wolf type at that. I also suspect that some of them are just like Trooper in terms of the non-conformist mindset/values but may have miserably failed surviving doing so.
Values (security, independence, freedom, safety, comfort, intimacy, etc.) are subjective things that are arranged as hierarchies inside our minds, and no two people are alike. Just because one values security does not mean one should think that people who value independence are less. Yes, Trooper has executive (decision making, planning, discipline) shortcomings but there is nothing wrong with him taking the risk in living the independent life that he values. If doing so is a crime - and it definitely isn't a crime - then it is a victimless crime because Trooper has no dependents.
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Not sure if right place to post but I'd encourage anybody who follows the Vlogs to attend the MUG that BOwen and ANeeme put on. Two class acts. Hopefully come next Winter time (I'm from CO) these are still running. Would like to improve my 0-2 record.
I see a lot people talking about stress in terms of making a living playing poker and saying that Troop should get a job. My belief is that people are who they are regardless of external factors. So if you are stressed in poker, you would also be stressed being a barista. So for me I experience little to no stress in my life as a poker player because it’s just the way I’ve learned to be. And it’s not because I have money. Most all of us (regardless of career) live our lives in a way that raises our lifestyle to the test the limits of our bankroll. I’m perpetually on the verge of being busted but through years of experience I know when I need to buckle down and grind.
When I had deadlines as a software developer I experienced wayyyy more stressed than when I’m down to my last $10K in poker. It’s just been a maturation process to better deal with stress.
So I guess what I’m trying to say is that Troop will feel equal amounts of stress regardless if he quits poker and takes a job.
I don't think trooper is as stressed as he's portrayed to be in this thread. He's out there every day on the strip filming his vlogs and editing them every night of the week. I really don't think he has time to be stressed, especially since he's living his own life doing what he wants to do. He meets people every day, in person, from all over the world who follow his vlogs to buy his hats. I think most of them are doing it for the chance to meet the guy who brings the Las Vegas Strip into their living rooms (or cells phones, tablets, whatever) every day of the week when we can't be there ourselves. It's a lot of poker player's dreams to do what he's doing (living in LV playing poker on the strip every day).
Now for you, Johnnie, you have evolved in such a short time to bring the most amazing content and imo best strat and format from a guy who's been playing professionally for almost 10 years. What I love about your vlogs is you're just being yourself opening up your life to your audience who also share the love of the game.
The Mexican game on your last vlog looked awesome, the way those Mexicans party at the game, such as turning the lights down and the music up during a live poker game.
If anyone wants to see how people play poker in underground Mexico City games check out his lates vlog
I think getting out of dealing was a huge mistake on Trooper's part. He could have probably parlayed that into something game-hosting-wise and would probably be pushing ~50/hr by now easily. I also realize that hourly is outrageous, but I think he would be around that as the brand grew.
He would make $50+/hr dealing the Trooper game at the Westgate.
Stress playing poker vs. stress working a f/t job : Please don't forget, if you have a bad day at your f/t job, your boss does not subtract a few buy-ins from your pay!
Trooper's latest vlog was a boon for him. +$1,695 is an excellent session at 1/2 ... hopefully it was because he played well, and didn't just run like god. I genuinely root for the guy and hope he starts winning more at the tables to support his merch sales and vlog.
His comments on his diet in this vlog were telling. He basically said that he is going to do his own variation of the carnivore diet, and add in some vegetables and fruit. He essentially just gave himself license to do whatever he wants now and call it a diet. Now no matter what happens, he will be successful because he was doing the "Trooper Carnivore Diet". He is failing before he starts.
Second, he says that the diet hasn't officially started, so he was going to get a spicy chicken sandwich at Wendys...
This Trooper "diet" thing doesn't look like it's going anywhere.
