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02-11-2018 , 02:52 AM
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And “Turning something into nothing” one coffee, one hot dog and one -$973 at a a time.


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02-11-2018 , 03:23 AM
Hey Jaman great vlog as usual! When you went to Desert Manor did you see any of this?

https://youtu.be/aCwfsSgESgE?t=75
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02-11-2018 , 08:50 AM
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Hey Jaman great vlog as usual! When you went to Desert Manor did you see any of this?

https://youtu.be/aCwfsSgESgE?t=75
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H5FdI5R44f4

Actually that did not look so bad. lool. Did she say $725 for a downstairs unit? That seems higher than what I remember. I thought it was like 5 hundi. Comes with TV tho.
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02-11-2018 , 09:08 AM
Boski's side gigs must be paying well if he is looking at 6 figure cars
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02-11-2018 , 10:07 AM
Boski's been a crusher for years. I'm sure he's efficient at BRM and actually has the money to put down on a 100k car which down payment for someone with great credit may only be like 3-5%.
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02-11-2018 , 11:00 AM
How much do you think YouTube pays Neeme per month for his blogs?
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02-11-2018 , 11:26 AM
In the world of YouTube monetization, no two channels are the same. Depending on your AdSense and ranking in the algorithm, two channels with the exact same number of subscribers and views in the same genre can have a wide range of income. One channel can have a higher quality score and higher quality ads will serve before the video. I've worked with companies who have 500k-2MM subscribers and due to many factors. A quick & dirty scale to go buy, is a partnered creator can earn around $1500-2000 for a video with a million views, and then YouTube/Google keeps 40% of that.

Vloggers in 2018 are making close to half of what partnered channels were making in 2012-2013 when a viral boom could net a creator serious bank. Most of the major players now are partnered with 3rd party distribution partners who are able to scale their monetization to the max and rely on a more steady income overall rather than taking the risk of doing it themselves and not getting the most out of their monetization.

That's why I LOL so hard at social blade numbers. They're horribly miscalculated. Take that number you see there, subtract 40% for YouTube/Google's cut and then maybe another 20-25% since social blade skews on the high end.

What someone brings home $$ wise is super personal, so I wouldn't expect a real true answer from someone in the game as a content creator. Working at two different internet advertising agencies for the past 3 years I've got to see a lot of the behind the scenes stuff doing brand monetization, media buying, and Google analytics. It's a lot less than you think.

I think it's awesome guys like Andrew and Boski, have been able to leverage their work into sponsored gigs with outside sources that mesh with the vlog. Those companies clearly see the value in having strong ambassadors that are vloggers. It's hard to make a living and kill it just based on YouTube alone.
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02-11-2018 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStack650
How much do you think YouTube pays Neeme per month for his blogs?
The rule of thumb number I always heard was $1 for every 1000 views. It varies, largely based on the desirability of the audience to advertisers, but it's on that order of magnitude.
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02-11-2018 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
The rule of thumb number I always heard was $1 for every 1000 views. It varies, largely based on the desirability of the audience to advertisers, but it's on that order of magnitude.


So Trooper is only averaging $8-$10 per day from his videos?

Really?


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02-11-2018 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
In the world of YouTube monetization, no two channels are the same. Depending on your AdSense and ranking in the algorithm, two channels with the exact same number of subscribers and views in the same genre can have a wide range of income. One channel can have a higher quality score and higher quality ads will serve before the video. I've worked with companies who have 500k-2MM subscribers and due to many factors. A quick & dirty scale to go buy, is a partnered creator can earn around $1500-2000 for a video with a million views, and then YouTube/Google keeps 40% of that.

Vloggers in 2018 are making close to half of what partnered channels were making in 2012-2013 when a viral boom could net a creator serious bank. Most of the major players now are partnered with 3rd party distribution partners who are able to scale their monetization to the max and rely on a more steady income overall rather than taking the risk of doing it themselves and not getting the most out of their monetization.

That's why I LOL so hard at social blade numbers. They're horribly miscalculated. Take that number you see there, subtract 40% for YouTube/Google's cut and then maybe another 20-25% since social blade skews on the high end.

What someone brings home $$ wise is super personal, so I wouldn't expect a real true answer from someone in the game as a content creator. Working at two different internet advertising agencies for the past 3 years I've got to see a lot of the behind the scenes stuff doing brand monetization, media buying, and Google analytics. It's a lot less than you think.

I think it's awesome guys like Andrew and Boski, have been able to leverage their work into sponsored gigs with outside sources that mesh with the vlog. Those companies clearly see the value in having strong ambassadors that are vloggers. It's hard to make a living and kill it just based on YouTube alone.
It's been all merch sales in the last year. Before the scandal, Logan Paul was making an estimated $10 Mil a month from merch sales alone.
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02-11-2018 , 01:56 PM
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So Trooper is only averaging $8-$10 per day from his videos?

Really?


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Nobody knows and these "rules of thumbs" people used even 6 months ago are horribly inaccurate today. YouTube has drastically changed their algorithms in the last year.
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02-11-2018 , 02:44 PM
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So Trooper is only averaging $8-$10 per day from his videos?

Really?


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Nobody knows and these "rules of thumbs" people used even 6 months ago are horribly inaccurate today. YouTube has drastically changed their algorithms in the last year.
nobody knows but it most certainly has to be more than $10 a day.
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02-11-2018 , 03:08 PM
Nobody knows? Tons of people know, they're just not saying.

People should say how much they make. Both in general for regular jobs and stuff like this. Hiding salary information only helps employers since they have the information advantage.
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02-11-2018 , 03:15 PM
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Boski's been a crusher for years. I'm sure he's efficient at BRM and actually has the money to put down on a 100k car which down payment for someone with great credit may only be like 3-5%.
Do you think he is going to buy a $100K vehicle to park it at casinos and massage parlors?
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02-11-2018 , 03:21 PM
Look at the entire YouTube landscape. If it were easy to make a living off of three videos a week that cap out at 15k-20k views, everyone would be doing it. You aren't making a respectable wage off of YouTube checks until you start getting into the 1.5+million views per video every single month. I know personally two YouTubers with their Gold plaque from YouTube (1MM+ subscribers) and they've expressed having to change their model in order to sustain their current quality of living. Now scale that 1million subscribers at maybe 15-30million views a month down to a 20-30k subscriber level with not even a tenth of the views. It's hard for the little guys to cash out. The only person that I know personally who is a content creator with about 140-150k subscribers is netting around $1600/month on YouTube which she uses to pump back into Facebook/Instagram ads to fund her beauty supply business which is her real money maker. She was able to scale that into spending $3k a month on ads and netting about 7-8k a month profit which is pretty damn good. She gave up on her dream of opening her own shop because she's netting more off of a combination of YouTube being the advertising force for her supply business on the backend.

Andrew Neeme should be getting his Silver Plaque from YouTube soon once he hits the 100k subscribers mark. He's doing this YouTube thing correctly.

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02-11-2018 , 03:24 PM
Why didn't TBC tell Jaman his thoughts when playing poker at the same table?
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02-11-2018 , 03:25 PM
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Do you think he is going to buy a $100K vehicle to park it at casinos and massage parlors?
That's the American dream ain't it? I ain't mad at Boski at all. He's my kinda guy. Plus, us bowlers stick together. A foot massage after a long night of bowling league is a little slice of heaven.



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Why didn't TBC tell Jaman his thoughts when playing poker at the same table?
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A prerequisite of prejudice is cowardice.
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02-11-2018 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Look at the entire YouTube landscape. If it were easy to make a living off of three videos a week that cap out at 15k-20k views, everyone would be doing it. You aren't making a respectable wage off of YouTube checks until you start getting into the 1.5+million views per video every single month. I know personally two YouTubers with their Gold plaque from YouTube (1MM+ subscribers) and they've expressed having to change their model in order to sustain their current quality of living. Now scale that 1million subscribers at maybe 15-30million views a month down to a 20-30k subscriber level with not even a tenth of the views. It's hard for the little guys to cash out. The only person that I know personally who is a content creator with about 140-150k subscribers is netting around $1600/month on YouTube which she uses to pump back into Facebook/Instagram ads to fund her beauty supply business which is her real money maker. She was able to scale that into spending $3k a month on ads and netting about 7-8k a month profit which is pretty damn good. She gave up on her dream of opening her own shop because she's netting more off of a combination of YouTube being the advertising force for her supply business on the backend.

Andrew Neeme should be getting his Silver Plaque from YouTube soon once he hits the 100k subscribers mark. He's doing this YouTube thing correctly.

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If 150k Subscribers equates roughly to $1600 net a month.

So 30k subscribers equates to $320 a month.

Understand that frequency of videos, adv rates and a host of other variables need to be factored in. Regardless for most of the poker vloggers out there their income from Youtube is so small.

Much lower than I would have guessed.
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02-11-2018 , 04:39 PM
Subscribers and how much they make a month are mutually exclusive. It's all about how your channel is monetized, if you have engaging ads in your preroll that get users past the 30second mark to get that extra .04-.17 cents per view from the ads, that could be the difference in 30-50% more income a month. If your video is set up with interstitial ads sprinkled through the video then there's more opportunity to rake up more $/video. Of course, the more subscribers the more potential for making more as this is a numbers game. Plus higher subscriber counts will rank higher in organic searches and recommend videos for people viewing similar content. You need a good sense of keyword analysis and ways to bring users from other genres into your video feed. I'm sure that as much as trooper loves coffee, that he's trying to bridge some crossover to coffee lovers/coffee snobs (not a diss, it's a pretty strong keyword).

Also, these are net numbers. YouTube takes their cut off top then add taxes (if you claim & actually pay them). That ~$1600 is net-net. But like I always say, gross income is irrelevant, you pay your bills with net income.

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02-11-2018 , 04:58 PM
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That's the American dream ain't it? I ain't mad at Boski at all. He's my kinda guy. Plus, us bowlers stick together. A foot massage after a long night of bowling league is a little slice of heaven.





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Lol, well he told you didn’t he? Why are you hating on a Autistic guy?

I find it cringeworthy that you find someone with autism to be so offensive because he spoke what came to his mind. Having a family member that is autistic I know they can say offensive things but they very transparent and upfront and honest.

As far as your studio condo rental, it sounds like you needed someone to cover the rent for few months so you wouldn’t be stuck with it. “Helping him out”

It is really sad because people take advantage of my family member all the time, really pathetic IMO. Not saying it is your case but it makes you wonder
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02-11-2018 , 05:03 PM
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Lol, well he told you didn’t he? Why are you hating on a Autistic guy?

I find it cringeworthy that you find someone with autism to be so offensive because he spoke what came to his mind. Having a family member that is autistic I know they can say offensive things but they very transparent and upfront and honest.

As far as your studio condo rental, it sounds like you needed someone to cover the rent for few months so you wouldn’t be stuck with it. “Helping him out”

It is really sad because people take advantage of my family member all the time, really pathetic IMO. Not saying it is your case but it makes you wonder
First, you didn't see what he pm'ed me directly and I won't share the rest as it was pretty offensive and will probably get 86ed in this thread. Second of all, my lease is up next month on the condo and I'm just fine. Third, being autistic has zero to do with the inability to be decent. If you can blog for years, you have some command of language and tact.

And lastly, sorry about your personal experiences with autistic loved ones. I can tell that it's a sore spot for you and you are deeply hurt by my comments. I hope you can find your peace, but let's not protect ignorance at all costs.

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02-11-2018 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Trebek's Cat
Hey Jaman great vlog as usual! When you went to Desert Manor did you see any of this?

https://youtu.be/aCwfsSgESgE?t=75
It was a great vlog, the trip to desert manor was funny. “So the TV comes with it” ....it look like a desktop monitor
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02-11-2018 , 05:48 PM
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It was a great vlog, the trip to desert manor was funny. “So the TV comes with it” ....it look like a desktop monitor
ROFL omg I spit out my cereal on this one.
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02-11-2018 , 06:23 PM
Between ad blockers, swearing, fast forwards, and thumbs down Troop isn't making coffe money.

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02-11-2018 , 07:02 PM
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