Both of them acted in the heat of the moment. The whole thing was really just two thin skinned guys that got into it and ran their mouths off trying to look tough, trying to escalate, trying to taunt each other, etc. If either one was more calm and wasn’t affected as much by their ego then it doesn’t blow up the way it did. It was great drama though.

Look at it from Cali's point of view.

He sees a middle-aged hillbilly wearing a comical hat that is behaving like he is Steven Spielberg.

Don't be surprised if you wear the proverbial "Kick Me" sign and someone punts.

I would have liked to see Tim ask the table to raise a hand if they are OK with filming. I think that would have made the Cali guy aware that everyone knows what is going on right away.

What is the agreement between Trooper and WG? Is Trooper paying WG to be able to film?

Personally, I wouldn't want to be filmed and don't see why a poker room would want to deal with this hassle as I'm sure others feel the same. Just wondering what's in it for them.

I believe I heard the floor when he was talking to Cali dude say "He has a contract with us".

I've also played in many events that had signs that said "filming in progress beyond this point".

If he didnt wanna be filmed he could have left the room. According to Tim he was kicked out anyway.

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Trooper's explanation of the thumbs up sign was funny.

Trooper handled it poorly, tried to inflame rather than handle it.

Ok, the adult / classy thing to do was to turn the cameras off, then settle the dispute, if only as not NOT show Westgate in any light to be perceived as negative. It's their poker room, not Twoop's. Having said that, Twoop does put butts in the seats for his weekly meetup so the room should be grateful toward him...to an extent.

I don't go to 7-11 these days unless I'm carrying, but I still don't want some agro/Afro stalking me potentially over some silly $1-$2 argument, no matter how right I was or wasn't. No sense turning the suddenly ultra violent streets of LV even moreso, this time over something petty at its root.

Would I have smarted off to the guy once he copped that attitude, probably. I also would've told anyone within earshot (or on camera, duh) in short order that there were mistakes made on both sides. So far, da Twoop's decided to go into bunker mode. We need to hear from him.

You don't go to the 7-11 unless you're carrying a gun? Or have I got this wrong?

I wonder how many times he’s had to draw his weapon at 7-11. I’m going to set the line at 0.5 and take the under.

Because times change and a great, inexpensive form of advertising is YouTube. I know most here are haters, but you still watch and all those eyes on whatever product someone is selling is a good thing for them. His vids are being seen by thousands a day and drawing people to the casino on Thursday's and whatever the contract is, I'm sure it's pennies compared to what other forms of advertising cost.

Maybe Tim does have a deal with some of the places he frequents downtown or on the strip, we don't know. You can be damn sure if I owned one of those places that he would, at the very least, eat for free to keep mentioning my establishment. I have/had no idea what Dirt Dog or Georgiano's is, but next time I'm in Vegas I'll try both because of Trooper's vlog.

Years ago a camera or live feed in a poker room would have been summarily dismissed as asinine. Like I said, times change.

Troop assumed everyone there was there to play with him. Cali didn’t have a clue who Troop was and thought he was just some clown with a camera for some reason. There’s bound to be a fight when two people are completely oblivious to the world in differing ways.

FWIW, before this video I watched a grand total of about 2 minutes of this guy's (I assume Tim = Trooper) videos and only watched this one because of this thread. (I found him kind of abrasive/obnoxious.)

I'm not sure I even knew it was the WG poker room just by watching the video. I guess I can see some people intentionally going to the poker room because he is there - so I see the benefit there for WG. Does he block of 1 table for himself, or does he roam over multiple tables? Having signs up at the entrance made it seem like the entire room was under a vlogger's camera.

I'd be okay if I went there to play, and they said at the brush that "Table X was a vlogger table, do you mind playing there?" It would be annoying to go to a room and find all or a even multiple tables were being filmed making me go elsewhere. So there is that downside to the poker room as well.

Cali was told by the dealer about the filming when he sat down. Then when he decided he didn't want to be filmed anymore instead of leaving or asking the floor to clarify the filming policy he grabbed Trooper's camera off the table and started threatening him. At that point he should have been immediately 86ed. Any escalation after that is on Westgate. Then, even after the floor explained to him that they had a contract with trooper giving him the right to film the guy refused to back down and proceeded to rant about his freedom as if he has any say whatsoever about what the Westgate chooses to do or not do in its poker room. Sure, Trooper could have been less confrontational, but Cali is completely in the wrong here and in my opinion Westgate should have immediately kicked him out once he grabbed Trooper's camera and started threatening him.

Like I said, he was completely oblivious to the world around him and thought Trooper was just some clown with a camera. He had no idea the filming was an actual thing, that’s why he got so pissed. You can hear him say, “I’m not stupid” after Trooper told him they record on Thursdays, because he thought he was being trolled.

Someone this uninformed running into someone as delusional as Trooper is bound to lead to some problems.

Yeah, uhh, sure...Uhhh, there are signs everywhere, a twelve inch white tri-pod 360 camera in the middle of the table and everyone is talking about the filming.

I call troll and raise you a "The whole thing was set up to garner views."

A Cali poker pro walks into....The Westgate poker room. HA HA HA!

drawn,

"agro/Afro"?..

This made me laugh

Trooper and his 4k - 8k daily youtube views OWNS Vegas

Cali wouldn't have cared. It was all about him and his wishes. He initially agreed to be filmed, later on he wanted filming to stop. He was reminded of the signs and he said he didn't care about signs. He was told about filming by the floor, he didn't care. You can't reason with morons.

How come LATB requires that you sign a release and WG/Troop does not?

I unsubscribed from Trooper a few weeks ago, but had to see what all the talk here was about.

Cali seems like a typical degenerate gambler that gets belligerent when he is losing.

I don't think Trooper did much wrong here, other than to ham it up a bit for the camera, but I can't say I blame him at all in this spot..

Maybe something did happen to Trooper? He has been quiet.

They were both out of line, but how dumb do you have to be to sit down at a table with cameras everywhere and not realize what is happening. The footage wasn't even from troop's go Pro it was a big camera in center of table. In future anyone that sits down Trooper should say, "Hey this table is being recorded just so you know".

Right before the camera was snatched Trooper told him everything he said was going on Youtube. Later he said if the guy wasn’t acting like that he would have taken him off and wouldn’t even put it on YouTube. I’m confused as to why he didn’t he tell the guy earlier he would take him off. The guy asked nicely in the beginning not to be filmed and was clearly upset and confused. The decent thing to do in that situation is to try to help the guy out instead of acting like you don’t care.

Both of them were being pretty stubborn. I do think Cali guy was more in the wrong because he did start acting like a dick first, snatched the camera and made threats.

I think the Cali guy saying he was a poker pro or professional pool player or whatever was being sarcastic. He was responding to the fan who called Trooper a YouTube star. So he wasn’t really saying he was a poker pro. He was saying the idea that Trooper was a YouTube star was bs.

Ya think?

At that point he crossed several lines.


You assuming that is like us assuming Trooper wouldn't have put him on Youtube had he not been a dick about it.

There's a lot of that in this thread. Just because you would respond that way doesn't mean everyone, or even anyone would.

You really think you know what SHOULD have been done and how everyone WOULD HAVE reacted if the situation was different, but you WEREN'T there and you don't KNOW what anyone might have done differently.


What we should all agree on that was 100% wrong was grabbing the camera and the way WG handled things.

And that’s what happens when you’re rude to people. I think it’s silly to be rude to people and then complain when they get hostile and cross the line. If someone thinks he can be rude to people and expect them to be okay with that, that’s like trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I disagree.

But we have video that shows us what was going on exactly when it happened, and we can rewind it and watch it as many times as we want. This isn’t the same as the situation he had with the janitor when we couldn’t see what was going on. This isn’t the year 1200 when you had to be there to see what was going on.

The camera grabbing has been blown way out of proportion IMO. Lol at it being assault and calling the cops over it. It was a dick move he made because he was mad but he gave it back and never attempted to break it or take it home with him.