Good video. Don't beat yourself up though.
Lots of morons who like to spout negativity online.
It's sad to see how cruel people can be in this thread.
Best of luck!

Lmao. I'm glad you said this. Because I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise since it'd seem like I was being aggressive.

To these "long time pros" you mention. Who are they? Speak up. I'm willing to confidently say no real pro would say I was cheating after the facts. Because these pros you mention, they probably don't beat 5/10 and 10/20 and up.

OK stud - I have raised a family as a poker pro. In fact my daughter is going to be a junior at a 60k/yr college next year and will graduate debt free. I have made my living gambling since 1992. And me - I say you looked like you were cheating. Soft play is in fact a form of collusion which is in fact a form of cheating

Guess the word got around LV that you and your buddy were cheating and got banned in some casinos? Is that why you are now playing at LA area?

It would be helpful to know where you are playing at so we can help clear your name by showing your youtube vlog.

OK fine...May I please have those lessons that Pooper turned down? They are going to waste just hanging around. At least give them to someone who would appreciate and actually has the ability to apply any & all strategies/theory that is shared.

One Time!!

I watched Advantage Players Vlog. If everything he says in there is true that is not cheating.

Do you guys have some additional information? Or are you just roasting the guy because you are bored?

AdvantagePlayer, you seem to mention a lot that your main incentive in not cheating/colluding is that you make a living off of it and you couldn't afford to have those avenues shut down if caught.

So if you were a rec player, would you be more open and willing to cheat and collude?

You can't be this dim. I'm not sure which would be worse though, you cheating and now lying to cover it up or you being completely oblivious to the fact that you were cheating.

Why would you risk cheating? I dunno, why do criminals ever take unnecessary risk? Perhaps, like most poker pros, you were trying to push every edge no matter how small. Perhaps, like most poker pros, you have a very weak moral compass. Perhaps you were never taught the difference between right and wrong.

As for casinos cheating at blackjack that's pretty funny since it's been shown that online casinos do cheat at blackjack to get an additional edge. The Full Tilt guys were worth way more than you so why did they do what they did? Russ Hamilton already won the main event before he stole millions online. Bernie Madoff was a billionaire FFS. There's never enough money for this type of person.

So a bunch of scumbag pros don't have a problem associating with a known cheater. Who woulda thunk it?


Yes, a lot of poker players are scumbags but that doesn't mean colluding as you did is acceptable.

LMAO @ the term "real pro" as if being a professional poker player is noteworthy or impressive. Fact is most professional poker players are scumbags so it would come as no surprise if they excused this behavior.

This struck me as sort of akin to someone accused of racism responding by saying "but I have lots of [fill in the non-white race here] friends!"

I didn't think someone could be worse at trying to explain/defend themselves ITT than BikeKing, but I guess I was wrong.

@ no quarter...I have always liked the cut of yer jib. Where u at? I would be more than happy to sit down with you and talk poker - any time!!

The thumbs down is now winning

Its obviously the Trooper superfans, the scary ones that even trooper wouldn't meet up with irl, like Pistol, or blackballed

From 7/19/17:

PAY THE UNDERS!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8-9_GP5Rs

I am in LA for other AP reasons. Outside of poker, though I'm logging some hours while I'm here at the 5/10 games. And no I didn't get banned from any Vegas property. Outside of BJ.

I watched a couple of your vlogs, including the one everyone is freaking out over. FWIW I did not consider your actions to be cheating, nor would I have felt differently if I were in the game. Because I've been there, and yeah sometimes I play "differently" vs friends, but not directly soft playing. Sometimes I may indirectly softplay out of fear that they're going to own my ass and it's not worth getting made fun of about it later, other times I just know I'm delving into level 9 territory at which point I'm just outplaying myself. I could see how some amateurs might raise an eyebrow at your actions but overall I think you're in the clear.

Trooper annoying other players at the table again. Could he be more self unaware? But as usual, he blames other factors for people not liking him

I mention this a lot because it's the most rational explaination of why I wouldn't cheat. We play this game for money. Is cheating for small edges and ruining my life long career and name worth it. No.

From my own beliefs. No I wouldn't cheat. Because that's not how I want to get through life. Nor do I need or should even risk it. Refer to my story about returning the $100 back to the chiprunner a couple weeks ago. I was stuck money and still did that. Because I know the chiprunner works hours to make that money. I wouldn't want that hardship on them

If you are in the pokerz skills offering mood: I can be available

Post a thread in the Live Casino Poker forum. Describe what occurred. Define what someone would have to be to be considered a "real pro". I am confident that a clear majority of posters who claim to fit your definition of a real pro would say that you were cheating.

Trooper gives a good lesson on how to cooler a rec player by flopping an Ace high flush vs a King high flush and win the absolute minimum. He then gave a lesson on how to antagonize that rec player and get him to leave the game. Good work Trooper!

This has to be directed at players who play 5/10 and up for a living. Rec and pro views are different. For an example, tip rates.

I'm one of them who believes it was colluding/cheating, however you want to describe it. Taken directly from the video itself [link], at 0:55 he explains:

"... My friend, who was sitting on my immediate left, would then 3-bet me over and over. Now he - we have an understanding that - we never mentioned it - but I think intuitively none of us is going hard at each other. We're gonna' play our cards; we're gonna' play a nitty, ABC style. But if I have Kings or Aces, I'm gonna' raise you; it is what it is. But I'm not gonna' go out of my way and use, like, A-5, Ace blocker, and 4-bet or 5-bet bluff you and try to get you off your Queens or Jacks or something, ya' know. We're not gonna' do that. And not only that. We don't want to get into big pots with each other because the last thing we want to do is, like, share ride or whatever, get back home and, like, "I just stacked you for 3k..."

He all but says they were soft playing each other, to whatever degree. I mean, he might as well do everything he can to describe collusion without using the term. When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..... If not, then some please help explain to me how a player who openly admits - on video, no less - that he has an "understanding" with his "friend" and intentionally removes strategies and maneuvers against his friend only, but is somehow not colluding? Of course, I believe the idea of collusion is broad enough to include outright intentional and concealed signaling as well as seemingly otherwise minor 'soft play.'

The only way I can see that segment of poker players openly saying that you weren't cheating would be if those pros are scummier than average. Which is entirely possible. They might privately be willing to do exactly what you did, but I don't think too many pros who fit your definition would be willing to publicly approve of what you did in a manner that can be linked to them.

If you picked ten pros who play 5/10 and up for a living and who are active on Twitter and polled them about your situation, how many of them do you think would tweet you a thumbs up on your behavior?

Sounds like you believe soft play (colluding) equates to cheating. Would soft play be the same as marking cards? Both are cheating? Well then my friend. Daniel Negraenu? Cheated in one of the big events. Because he soft played and vocalized it out loud.

He's never getting into pots with another particular pro. Guess the face of poker is a cheater too

No one is going to negative free roll themselves in this whole of a mess. There's no benefit to admitting to such beliefs