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08-07-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
It's not about being new or old to poker. It's about how one carries themselves and treats others as a result of how they approach life.
Well please feel free to message a few well-known people in this forum who know me personally if you're really doubting my character and the way I treat others. PA, SpikeMcawesone, John K., Neeme, I have 100% confidence any of them will let you have an honest opinion of me.
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08-07-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
On a positive note ...I had my first ice coffee with a shot of vanilla and it was very tasty.
Trooper is a trend setter now.

Vanilla extract is tasty in many a things.

I put a shot of it in my pancakes, quite tasty.
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08-07-2017 , 07:31 PM
It's the rationalization of it after the fact that sucks.

"I feel bad about how I reacted there, but cameras, higher stakes, etc. Hopefully I can be a bit more respectful next time. Glad Boski and everybody realized it was pure in the moment."

If that was a non-televised game I'd have way more issue personally.

I mean just a typical socially clueless poker player imo.

The bigger take away is if you combine the lack of accountability from this instance and the written account of how he was framed at his job. I sense a pattern here.
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08-07-2017 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mahimahi
...tricylekid, (you) awkward donkey raised by helicopter parents ...
I still get a laugh from the helicopter parents part

... and the tricycle kid part ain't bad either.
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08-07-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
Trooper is a trend setter now.

Vanilla extract is tasty in many a things.

I put a shot of it in my pancakes, quite tasty.
In an episode of Family Ties, the alcoholic uncle was visiting and there was no alcohol in the house and he was shooting down bottles of Vanilla Extract. lol
It has a pretty high alcohol content to it.
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08-07-2017 , 08:08 PM
whats this hand bikeking is getting **** on about? Him turning a boat vs's boski's flopped flush? Weren't they playing like effectively 2/5 or something and he only stacked him for $650 or so? I mean, him getting excited looks fishy, like an amateur, but so what? It's really not that big of a deal, and boski shouldnt really care at these stakes either. I could understand if it was some sicko deep spot for like a $5000 pot in a 2/5 game or something, but there was simply not enough on the line for anyone to get worked up over, even the loser, and especially the spectators.

If someone did that to me I'd assume exactly what BK is confessing, that they're just a bit new to the game and not used to these stakes. I wouldnt hold it against them unless they just went on and on about it and seemed genuinely proud acting as if they outplayed me. But if this is the hand we're talking about, all he did was kinda go "yes!" under his breath, throw his cards down (better than a slowroll imo) and just stand up to make sure he didnt get rivered.

I also dont even mind the $2 tip. Yes it was the first thing I noticed actually lol, but I also assume someone who tips small on big pots probably just auto-tips on lots of pots to balance it out. They're just a $2 tipper. If I won a $1200 pot at 2/5 I'd probably tip $5 most of the time since I dont place any big emphasis on doubling up roughly a starting stack. But again I just dont think any of this is that big of a deal.
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08-07-2017 , 08:13 PM
I wouldn't stress too much over BK's behavior. The vlogger game was likely the height of his popularity - guys who are life+game nits don't make for enduring personalities that people will watch and follow.
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08-07-2017 , 08:17 PM
****Warrning spoilers****New Boski vlog out. I really hope it was just the cymbals that got to him that night...maybe got him rattled. Instead of thinking about going back to the 9-5 cubicle/office grind, I'd take some time off from poker and re-evaluate. Maybe head out to Southern Utah, the Sierra Nevada's, or even Colorado. I'm not 100% convinced you were serious in the speech at the end of your vlog, but the LAST thing you want to get is a job, unless it's something you REALLY enjoy ie it's not like a "job" or you are working for yourself and doing something you enjoy. Although I'm older, trust me trying to get a job after being out of the workforce for 5+ years is not an experience I'd wish on anyone. Bottom line, don't settle for anything less than being happy......
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08-07-2017 , 08:21 PM
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08-07-2017 , 08:22 PM
Jeff don't leave us. I hope that wasn't true. If it was i wish u luck had your new Adventures
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08-07-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by javi
whats this hand bikeking is getting **** on about? Him turning a boat vs's boski's flopped flush? Weren't they playing like effectively 2/5 or something and he only stacked him for $650 or so? I mean, him getting excited looks fishy, like an amateur, but so what? It's really not that big of a deal, and boski shouldnt really care at these stakes either. I could understand if it was some sicko deep spot for like a $5000 pot in a 2/5 game or something, but there was simply not enough on the line for anyone to get worked up over, even the loser, and especially the spectators.

If someone did that to me I'd assume exactly what BK is confessing, that they're just a bit new to the game and not used to these stakes. I wouldnt hold it against them unless they just went on and on about it and seemed genuinely proud acting as if they outplayed me. But if this is the hand we're talking about, all he did was kinda go "yes!" under his breath, throw his cards down (better than a slowroll imo) and just stand up to make sure he didnt get rivered.

I also dont even mind the $2 tip. Yes it was the first thing I noticed actually lol, but I also assume someone who tips small on big pots probably just auto-tips on lots of pots to balance it out. They're just a $2 tipper. If I won a $1200 pot at 2/5 I'd probably tip $5 most of the time since I dont place any big emphasis on doubling up roughly a starting stack. But again I just dont think any of this is that big of a deal.

I'd imagine most people tip $1 a hand playing 1/2. Granted, this was not a "normal" 1/3 game or whatever it was. That being said to scoop a $1200 pot and then reach in and specifically pull out TWO $1 chips instead of your regular $1 chip is kind of a slap in the face. He was so elated to win his biggest pot ever but actually evidently took time to consider his tipping size was pretty incredible. Yes, I'm biased as I did not like how he reacted by slapping down his kings, so my opinion probably doesnt carry as much weight if I was unbiased. I think, though, the vast majority of poker players would have at least tipped a $5 chip there, if not $10. But I guess everyone has their own philosophy on tipping....
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08-07-2017 , 08:29 PM
So Jeff says he is done vlogging but makes it sound like he done with poker?
I understand the 1st but not the 2nd being he is up over 75k for the year in tourneys right?
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08-07-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by discin311
Jeff don't leave us. I hope that wasn't true. If it was i wish u luck had your new Adventures
Yeah being selfish I hope he doesnt stop his vlogs as I find them entertaining and like his sense of humor. That being said I really dont know how these guys put out all these vlogs then have to turn around and listen to the trolls. I assume the good people far outweigh the bad though but who knows I dont generally read the comments.

Especially with Boski since he is not getting any type of personal financial reward. Hey if it's not worth it anymore to him I say quit vlogging. No sense doing something you dont enjoy. But like I said in my prior post, I think the guy just needs some time off from poker, re-evaluate things, and adjust accordingly.
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08-07-2017 , 08:39 PM
Boski Across America might clear Jeff's mind. Just don't go to any haunted hotels.
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08-07-2017 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
So Jeff says he is done vlogging but makes it sound like he done with poker?
I understand the 1st but not the 2nd being he is up over 75k for the year in tourneys right?

I have a feeling that the cymbal guy was just the icing on the cake to this tournament. Not sure if Boski meant it, but I did find humour in his cymbal guy story. Like that is what I would want some guy crashing cymbals in my ear after I go out of the Main Event. Pretty surreal scene if you ask me like something out of a Fellini movie. Especially how Boski mentioned the guy in his previous Main Event vlog, sits at the same table with the guy, then gets the cymbals in his ears at the end. Hopefully Boski can find some humour in all of that.
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08-07-2017 , 08:43 PM
I definitely think quitting vlogging would be the right choice for Jeff. As for quitting poker, I support anyone that wants to do that but I'm not buying that's he's actually going to quit. Good luck either way!
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08-07-2017 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Trooper has criticized the game and given other reasons why it's a horrible idea. And some of his fans have bought into the idea that the vloggers game is a stupid idea. In his latest video Trooper said that everything he said about the game turned out to be right. So he was clearly suggesting that it would have been a horrible idea to play in it.


I'm not going back to watch the whole episode but I recall Trooper saying a) he wasn't invited in any official manner or provided details b) he might have plans around that time anyway and c) he didn't think it had any upside.

"C" is certainly true imo.

Trooper's small edge over random fish in a typical Vegas 1/X line up would be non existent in the VG.
The stakes were originally higher than he is really rolled for. He can't up and quit if things go sideways.
In promoting the VG if he were to play in it, he may feel he'd be promoting what he sees as competing YouTube content (I believe he's wrong on this point).
He's obviously just providing fodder for his obsessed haters (like some in this thread) if he plays. I mean look at the pile on of the Bike Kid itt. The kids obviously green as hell but the minute a drop of blood spills in the water over perceived under tipping and excessive celebration the vultures are circling. Hell In that environment he should have jumped higher, fist pumped harder and cheered louder... then bought Boski a shot and flipped a green bird to the dealer imo but whatever.
Not to mention the other sparring between vloggers over nitting it up etc.

And for all that, many itt were disappointed in the vloggers game anyway. From Trooper's pov I think he correctly identified that it would mostly be a **** show.

I have no reason to doubt that someone may have died but that whole part of trooper's story was unneccessary and in poor form (especially after stating he owed no answers).

Troop should have said "I see no upside and I think it might end up being a **** show, I ain't playing in it... it's not for me but have fun you guys" Period.

But he can't help himself, his ego seems to require him to feed the trolls including responding to statements itt that he "doesn't read".




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08-07-2017 , 09:00 PM
Please poker Gods, give us back Boski and we'll give you Trooper instead.
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08-07-2017 , 09:06 PM
Keep in mind Boski recorded his swan song in the car right after he busted from the Main and has since played poker, at least in the vlogger's game. Perhaps he only did that to fulfill his commitment and still plans to stop playing/vlogging. Hopefully not.
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08-07-2017 , 09:07 PM
Trooper sure is confused about a simple hand
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08-07-2017 , 09:09 PM
Weird how Trooper thinks that villain doing a limp-reraise makes no sense in that spot when villains at 1-2 do it with AA all the time. They often fear situations where they raise PF, get several callers and worry that someone might outflop them in a big pot with all those callers.

They usually raise less when they make that play though.

And how can he not be happy winning a pot of that size before the flop with 99? Guess I shouldn't be too surprised because he thinks stealing blinds is a joke. But's here's what one 2+2 reg had to say about winning $3 in a hand:

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At the same time, I wouldn't sniff about winning $3 in a hand at 1/2. If I could win 1.5 BB every hand I played, I'd be plenty happy with my results.
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08-07-2017 , 09:10 PM
Much respect to Jeff Boski

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08-07-2017 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
I'm not going back to watch the whole episode but I recall Trooper saying a) he wasn't invited in any official manner or provided details b) he might have plans around that time anyway and c) he didn't think it had any upside.

"C" is certainly true imo.

Trooper's small edge over random fish in a typical Vegas 1/X line up would be non existent in the VG.
The stakes were originally higher than he is really rolled for. He can't up and quit if things go sideways.
In promoting the VG if he were to play in it, he may feel he'd be promoting what he sees as competing YouTube content (I believe he's wrong on this point).
He's obviously just providing fodder for his obsessed haters (like some in this thread) if he plays. I mean look at the pile on of the Bike Kid itt. The kids obviously green as hell but the minute a drop of blood spills in the water over perceived under tipping and excessive celebration the vultures are circling. Hell In that environment he should have jumped higher, fist pumped harder and cheered louder... then bought Boski a shot and flipped a green bird to the dealer imo but whatever.
Not to mention the other sparring between vloggers over nitting it up etc.

And for all that, many itt were disappointed in the vloggers game anyway. From Trooper's pov I think he correctly identified that it would mostly be a **** show.

I have no reason to doubt that someone may have died but that whole part of trooper's story was unneccessary and in poor form (especially after stating he owed no answers).

Troop should have said "I see no upside and I think it might end up being a **** show, I ain't playing in it... it's not for me but have fun you guys" Period.

But he can't help himself, his ego seems to require him to feed the trolls including responding to statements itt that he "doesn't read".




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FWIW he was offered an appearance fee (I don't know how much though) and they even offered him a chance to just do commentary if he didn't want to play. He also would have gotten a free vacation. And his excuses for not showing up have made him look bad; even some of his fans must have wanted him to play. I think he has came across as being even more dishonest than I thought he was after all of this.

He also claimed to have over $10k.
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08-07-2017 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
I wouldn't stress too much over BK's behavior. The vlogger game was likely the height of his popularity - guys who are life+game nits don't make for enduring personalities that people will watch and follow.
Wow, I actually think that is a bigger stab at him then calling him a cheap tipper and a noob at the table for his celebration. Vicious attack.

Well done sir.
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08-07-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sucio44
Boski Across America might clear Jeff's mind. Just don't go to any haunted hotels.
Would love to see this as I think Boski would definitely have some AWESOME non-poker adventures on his trip on top of the poker. He seems like he would make friends and just have a blast with his personality.
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