They take 3% for the dealers.

It was a few vlogs ago but when Trooper reached into his cabinet full of Starbucks mugs and grabbed the DD mug from way in the back I DIED.

The house takes 3% and puts it towards the dealer's wages.

Does anyone legitimately know what a WSOP tournament dealer makes per hour when it is all said and done ???

I know it's below $15/hr, and I've heard it's near $11/hr.

This is for tournament dealer, so don't start talking a cash game dealer.

Mabye he's treating them as collectors items... or wants to resell them on his website with his autograph on them

So someone for a good majority of his life worked in an industry that relied on tipping is a cheap scheister himself- oh the irony.


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Disagree. Vegas dealers already make minimum wage as opposed to a lot of states where they can be paid sub minimum wage due to being a tipped profession. So the dealer add on likely means they are making at least double minimum wage which is more than fair.

We've seen this cycle before wrt Trooper:

1. Big loss
2. Online micro-stakes
3. Cheap tourney to try and make a score
4. Mailtime?
5. Don't Panic/Near Busto

It's closer than we realize this time.

Also his sub-gains have taken an extreme nosedive this summer. Another WSOP well spent at Excalibur, Flamingo, and South Point.

I don't see anything wrong with not tipping if there's an add-on that goes directly towards the dealers. Like Trooper said, if you choose to tip on top of that, go right ahead.

Tournament tipping is a tricky thing. I'd like Boski to chime in if he tips any extra than what is put aside for the dealers up top.

When I play donkaments, I typically tip 5% if I cash for under $500. If I cash for bigger amounts, I'll usually tip 2.5%-5% percent.

The biggest tournament I ever cashed was for $4,500..and I tipped $100..which looking back, might have been too much, but at the time I thought the amount was appropriate.

I am a "weekend warrior" rec player. If I was dependent on poker for my income, I would probably be more frugal about tipping when cashing a tournament..

LoL

Yeah, this right after saying he was going to put in a lot of hours at the cash game tables (btw, curious that he made the decision towards the end of the series)

Based on this statement, I'd guesstimate that you've watched at most 1/3rd as many of his videos as everyone else in this thread.

I believe he has made good money from TrooperWare recently. Is that sustainable? Probably not, but who knows. He does have some nice designs and a decent sized fan base.

I think you're way wrong on this. Trooper has never liked playing at the big fancy rooms. He isn't self-aware enough to think he is joke among the poker community, and nowadays he is recognized at just about any poker room he goes too. I guess less so at the small rooms, but frankly that just means he is playing more people outside the poker community and that means the games he is playing are quite good.

I support Trooper in this particular case although I did find it funny that he said he can't afford to tip. So if you are poor then you are excluded from having to tip in spots where it is customary? It seems like the proper thing to do would be to work harder so that you could tip appropriately.

Not a big tourney player, but for US that's likely even on the low side, I'm sure a lot of players tip more

He also said he was going to play 2-5 regularly and even some 5-10. Instead he is playing 1-2 at places like Excalibur and Flamingo.

That big heater he went on really helped him a lot. Much of his poker winnings this year were from his attempts to play 2-5. He also ran super hot in that 100 hours challenge.

According to this, only 70% of the 3% goes to the dealers and the rest goes to the floors. The dealer in that AMA seemed to be saying that last year he could make 15K for the series by working every day and taking on lots of overtime. I think I heard someone say this year the dealers were making about $20/hour for tournaments. Not sure how the cash games were, but I saw dealers sometimes walking away with $6 from a down.

I mean, I've pretty much given up on understanding this guy anyway and rarely watch his vlogs anymore but if he ran so hot at 2/5+ then where did he spend all that money? He must have lots of reserves to play 2/3+ at the WSOP or similarly soft 1/3 at nonbusto places like the Wynn?!

During a chop payout, many players tip only because the table captain guilts them into doing so, or else they would stiff the dealers.

Again, I am talking < $200 buy-in donkaments..

There's just a ton of working hard at great ideas, working out and eating healthy that he's not showing us the viewers.

However we have to see the wanker in his underwear for no reason whatsoever and we get the "dishwasher cam" and the cinematic STD "Coffee Cam" (because I feel disgusted and dirty/itchy after having to see it) all of which I despise as an editor.

Of the poker/Vegas vloggers with 5k+ views he's proven to by far have the worst eye for shot selection and editing. He hasn't produced a vlog this summer that's been better than a Neeme, Owen, Boski, Kraut or Polk vlog. DNegs doesn't count.

Thank you this post. It's the simple truth.

Trooper is the problem. Posts about him here used to be really positive and supportive of him. He wasn't just an innocent victim that showed up here and started getting hated on by trolls. If he took advantage of the support he was getting here he would at least be doing much better in the games.

And look at this short thread:

https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/fo...-vlogs.142105/

People are critical of him in there too. And the other vloggers don't have all the haters that Trooper has.

There are plenty of conversations to be had about other vlogs. They just get buried beneath all the Trooper nonsense.

You forgot

5. Team up w/ Harry at STT SNGs and split their colluding/team play profit 50:/50

There's nothing in his post that suggests he's a Trooper superfan. He seems like a normal person who's simply disgusted by the behavior of a few individuals who make it their daily mission to smear another person just for fun.

Every single day, these guys wake up and generate a new stream of insults. It doesn't even matter whether there's a new vlog posted. That's irrelevant, because the entire point is to get the group together to beat on this poor guy. It's a sport.

I don't understand why 2+2 allows this. It's embarrassing.

I guess you missed the thread he started in NVG accusing Doug Polk of "Slanderous Lies" in regards to Trooper and his single table satellite collusion.

I don't mind the Trooper supporters in this thread. They give the thread a little balance. I am fascinated to learn why there are such hardcore fans of Tim though.

If Trooper makes bad decisions and people point that out, it's not an "insult." And Trooper does make a lot of bad decisions; he also creates the most videos. He isn't exactly an example of a successful person to say the least so he gives his viewers a lot of material to criticize.

I notice that many of the most vocal Trooper supporters have really thin skin. I think this thread would be more positive if some of his biggest fans here actually posted something positive instead of throwing in some angry, negative posts complaining about the forum and attacking people here. I used to post stuff in here defending him and it wasn't hard.

I've seen Trooper attack 2+2 in recent vlogs. He tries to sell to his fans the idea that all of 2+2 is just a haters site and that all of 2+2 isn't even worth reading. Clearly, that is far from the truth, and it amazes me that someone with thousands of posts on the site still has the massive leaks he has in his game.

You're totally incorrect.

Many days they use the same insults because Tim often repeatedly does the same crap so there's nothing new everyday.

None of the post have ever been in any of the strat subforums.

Also his game is based all on soul reading mouth breathers and headphone/hoodie wearing grinders so he doesn't need to work on it. It's as good as it's going to get.