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I do think part of Andrew's vlog success has been due to his viewers viewing him as a good player based in large part on his success at the tables in the first few vlogs. I'm sure he recognizes that as well and will likely skew the videos accordingly. As an example if he plays a hand poorly and sucks out I think he is far less likely to show that then he will to show hands where he flops the nizzles.

Have you watched his vlogs? He has shown vids/reviews of hands he lost etc

his main success is coming from a fresh face + really good production quality + big names in the community backing him/reccomending him. I'm a big fan he seems super laid back and the vlogs are entertaining to watch / not draining

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11-30-2016 , 12:49 PM

#1177

Locked

centurion

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Originally Posted by The1Kid

Anybody else find this full of rungood? " good flop for our hand, top set" Pocket QQ's, call a raise with A10 and flop broadway etc...

Isn't that going to be a natural effect of trying to make an interesting vlog with valuable content?

There isn't much value in showing a hand that plays itself with little or no action. For instance, going to the flop with 10-10 and the board coming A-K-Q or something like that. The majority of the time it's going to be an easy fold with no commentary.

I guess what I am saying is you are bound to see a higher percentage of run good opposed to run bad. Hopefully when one is running bad they are losing the minimum. It's also likely they have no valuable content to add to it.

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11-30-2016 , 01:00 PM

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Dream Crusher

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I did wonder what happened at Bellagio the other day. I suppose it could be just a quick session and nothing noteworthy happened but it looked like he left with double the chips he initially bought in for so something probably happened.

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11-30-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1179

The1Kid

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Originally Posted by Locked

Nutted hands play themselves IMO, I find the closer decisions more interesting...maybe its just me as an experienced player.
Don't really care just thought it was weird that he shows mostly strong hands.

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11-30-2016 , 01:44 PM

#1180

ipuntstacks

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

he left with the same amount -- when he bought chips he asked for a rack of orange and 10 black -- he carried the 10 black in his hand while holding the rack. cashed out the same race + 10 blacks (with a few 1s and 5s).

I'm guessing he was there less than a couple hours as noted by the dead action.

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11-30-2016 , 01:48 PM

#1181

Locked

centurion

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Originally Posted by The1Kid

Do nutted hands really play themselves when it comes to extracting value out of your opponent? I feel like the correct play is very polarized depending on the opponent, position, previous action, etc. Much more so than attempting to lose the minimum on run bad hands.

I don't really care either, but I like seeing the strong hands

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11-30-2016 , 02:12 PM

#1182

megafresh23

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

You're reaching. One of his biggest videos was when he sucked out with Aces. He could've hid the fact the dude had two pair on the turn. He didn't show the other dudes cards. He could've just said he won a big pot with aces.

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11-30-2016 , 02:39 PM

#1183

onesickdegen

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Everything about this is wrong.

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11-30-2016 , 02:48 PM

#1184

WorldsBiggestNit

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

I've played a lot of 2/5 with Andrew in Vegas (I was a Vegas pro at the same stakes until I moved last year). I don't know him personally, he was always very quiet at the table when I played w/ him so I have nothing invested in this comment: He's a solid player, not the best but he's good and looks to be a good teacher too.

He shows mistakes in his videos. He's missed a couple river value bets that he has pointed out, for example. I don't think he's editing deceptively.

Andrew if you're reading this, great job on the vids. I've enjoyed them.

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11-30-2016 , 03:01 PM

#1185

Dream Crusher

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Not editing deceptively would be a major mistake IMO. First time he posts a very poorly played hand I'd expect viewers to overreact and the perception of him would likely change from crusher to luckbox and the haters would come out in force.

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11-30-2016 , 03:05 PM

#1186

mrducks

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Originally Posted by rubikon

Did they tell Andrew to not record video at the bellagio tables? There was no footage....

We will need to wait and see in future vlogs featuring the Bellagio. The video was long enough already and I'm sure Andrew just had to edit it to fit under 20 minutes and the Bellagio action didn't make the final cut. That is what I assume but we will see.

Maybe he answers in the comments on YouTube?

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11-30-2016 , 03:06 PM

#1187

WorldsBiggestNit

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If you've been a pro for a couple years there's probably no need to selectively edit stuff.

Most guys who make it as Vegas pros do so because they are consistent, not because they make brilliant plays. You're going to value-own yourself or bluff into the nuts every once in a while and look dumb, but in spots where it's correct to do so. It is very rare that I see pros nowadays straight-up spewing and lasting for as long as Andrew has.

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11-30-2016 , 03:10 PM

#1188

Dream Crusher

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The masses don't know what is correct and what isn't. There are still plenty of good players that spew. I'm not saying Andrew is one of them but I do expect he will at times make major mistakes or play a hand that people will perceive to be a major mistake....as an example getting it all in drawing close to dead when in fact putting the money in was potentially the correct play.

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11-30-2016 , 03:37 PM

#1189

mitsi

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

This is spot on.

The majority of people watching these vids will have no idea the correct play.
They have a mindset of "if you dont get all the money in as an 80% fav then you played wrong"

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11-30-2016 , 03:47 PM

#1190

onesickdegen

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Let's not go too far dissecting Andrew's hand selection or analysis. He is providing a logical and coherent glimpse of his daily life as a professional grinder and the onus really isn't on him to keep the average viewer from gleaning some perceived cognitive bias.

I think he's doing a pretty good job showing hand dynamics and acknowledging mistakes he makes.

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11-30-2016 , 04:37 PM

#1191

CarlGustavJung

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Andy, you said tim lolinspired you to start vlogging

im wondering if he inspired you to go with him to buy 2 of the same camera at the same time to get a good discount or did pokertube give them to you guys?

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11-30-2016 , 04:48 PM

#1192

Husker

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Originally Posted by CarlGustavJung

He didn't say that, he said about 5% of the inspiration was down to Tim.

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11-30-2016 , 04:55 PM

#1193

onesickdegen

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It's mail time

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11-30-2016 , 05:09 PM

#1194

CarlGustavJung

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Originally Posted by Husker

He didn't say that, he said about 5% of the inspiration was down to Tim.

knew it was something, thought he said "a bit" tho, dont remember a percentage being put to it

do you know who gave them their cameras or where they went to get a discount on 2?

i dont think this is a common camera for yootoobers was wondering what was so special that they got the same ones..i like the auto focus..

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11-30-2016 , 05:17 PM

#1195

mitsi

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mailtime cliffs

- Coffee
- Trooper finally bought some furniture
- Says "you guys shouldnt have" x 100
- People seem to keep sending shirts sized XXXXXL

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11-30-2016 , 05:19 PM

#1196

wheydacheese

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I can't comment much on the rungood issue, maybe he's running well...I'm 3 weeks into doing the vids and hit quads 3 times first week, flopped a straight flush week 2, and have flopped a number of sets and boats. Not even playing well just on a heater since starting.

I did want to see some of the fireworks though on that session he had a monster stack at Bellagio and said he lost a few 100.

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11-30-2016 , 05:29 PM

#1197

Steve00007

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Originally Posted by mitsi

New king
11793 Neeme
11792 Trooper

Im bored now

It's actually better for Trooper if Andrew does really well. If Andrew gets a bunch of subs, some of them are going to watch the videos that Trooper puts up. People keep mentioning Trooper in the comments section and Andrew has already linked to his vlog.

The fact that Andrew does well doesn't mean that Trooper is a failure. It just means Andrew is a success. Trooper should be judged on what he does (or doesn't do), not on what someone else does or on the number of subs someone else has.

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11-30-2016 , 05:30 PM

#1198

onesickdegen

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Andrew just rolled passed 15k subs. NBD

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11-30-2016 , 05:33 PM

#1199

rubikon

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Originally Posted by CarlGustavJung

im wondering if he inspired you to go with him to buy 2 of the same camera at the same time to get a good discount or did pokertube give them to you guys?

Its the camera everybody uses for vloging?