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06-13-2017 , 01:41 PM
Poker Kraut had another cool vlog out. There's a couple of cool things he mentioned that I'm looking forward to seeing in his vlog

He is going to
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Germany after the WSOP.


He is getting a
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dog once he gets back from that Germany trip.
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06-13-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
It makes him uncomfortable because it intimidates him.

Why do poker grinders dislike people talking poker strategy at the table? It makes the fish uncomfortable and scares them off. I would love if everyone would talk strategy at the table because I wouldn't say a word or would throw out some fish comments to make myself look dumb while getting free info on how my opponents play.

If Trooper is this uncomfortable with it, it further proves that he is a fish. Maybe this is why he is afraid of coaching, he doesn't know the ABC's so he's afraid it will expose him to the coach.
To be fair to him, I think he was more critical of the fact that they were going on and on about poker strategy using technical terminology that actually could make some completely recreational players feel out of place. And, I actually agree with him. At live games it is better to keep a really sociable and friendly atmosphere, and not make it look like some super-mathematical, quasi-scientific game that's all about strategy. Even if you are yourself employing sophisticated concepts and using GTO strategy while playing, it's much better to keep that to yourself and to at least outwardly act as if it's just a fun game involving gamble and action. I think for those of us hoping to keep poker going in the long-run, this is the proper attitude.

That's not necessarily to deny what you are saying about Trooper, which I'm inclined to agree with.
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06-13-2017 , 02:23 PM
Agree with both mrducks and Kim on this one. Trooper have a very fair point on his last vlog about dropping teqhnical strat words on the table and potenially scare off the fish, and i also believe he deliberately avoid RIO, Bellagio and the other strip joints now during the WSOP cause he dont want to face certain people.

Ive asked myself so many times why the guy is so defensive when it comes to recieving advice on his game,avoiding strat comments and critique on his plays in his videos and so on. A fair possible explenation to that is that Trooper think its uncomfortable for multiple reasons, one of them that he will expose his lack of skill and lack of knowledge about the game that maybe many of his fans take for granted that he have pinned down.
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06-13-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
This T-SHIRT gets a passing grade.

The hat is a good idea, just wrong fonts,color, and overall design.

Everything else is like a bad junior high school design class done with crappy software.

Not to be a hater, but I'm surprised the person helping Trooper with the designs missed the mark by so much.
What do you expect? I'm sure whoever is helping him is doing so for free so Trooper is taking whatever he can get. Plus, he isn't qualified to assess anyone's qualifications for anything so he probably thinks she is a genius for being able to use Microsoft Word clipart to make a shirt design. Does he even know about Photoshop?

He will sell a few dozen items for sure and maybe even a hundred or two hundred of some period of time and will think that is validation that his line of clothes is the greatest thing ever. He probably thinks that all of his colors and 4 designs make his line way better than Neeme who could only think of putting 1 word on his shirts.

He doesn't get it at all. It's the perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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06-13-2017 , 02:42 PM
His point about not talking poker strategy at the tables to scare off fish (if that was the point) would carry a bit more weight if he hadn't previously admitted to having an unfriendly attitude at the tables, and there were examples of this in previous vlogs. He's hardly in a position to criticise others.
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06-13-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
EVERY room has so many tables going right now that you will find a great table in every room.
The reason the players I know like to play at the Rio poker room in particular is the stack sizes. It appears that 2/3 at Rio is a $200 to $1k buyin. So you end up with a bunch of mediocre 1/3 type players that are playing very deep...with stacks that are good sized for 2/5.
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06-13-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
I said that from Day 1.

A piece of clothes is a WEAR.

A miscellaneous knick-knack is a WARE.

Trooper's real-world intelligence showed by calling it trooperware instead of trooperwear..it ain't rocket surgery..
He has coffee mugs on his site. Should he have Trooperware coffee mugs or Trooperwear coffee mugs? If he should have Trooperware coffee mugs, should he have Trooperwear t-shirts?
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06-13-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
He is getting a
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dog once he gets back from that Germany trip.
That is uninteresting and seems likely to generate content that I will skip.
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06-13-2017 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
His point about not talking poker strategy at the tables to scare off fish (if that was the point) would carry a bit more weight if he hadn't previously admitted to having an unfriendly attitude at the tables, and there were examples of this in previous vlogs. He's hardly in a position to criticise others.
Did he admit to having an unfriendly attitude at the tables? I mean, clearly he does at times but i don't recall him saying so. Also, he has given a lecture before that one should not berate other players..although I have personally seen him berate a recreational player.

As for strategy talk, I think Trooper is 100% correct on this. If your goal is to make money playing poker then you absolutely should not talk strategy at the table (probably shouldn't vlog poker strategy either, I'm just sayin). When I was a full time player I always found it quite cringe worthy when people would talk strategy at the table. They are both teaching their opponents how to play better poker and they are teaching their opponents how they think (and subsequently helping their opponents play better vs them). That being said, now that I'm a recreational player I love to talk strategy at the table. It's fun!
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06-13-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
The reason the players I know like to play at the Rio poker room in particular is the stack sizes. It appears that 2/3 at Rio is a $200 to $1k buyin. So you end up with a bunch of mediocre 1/3 type players that are playing very deep...with stacks that are good sized for 2/5.
To my knowledge Rio doesn't run a $2/$3, it's a $1/$3 with the normal $100-$300 buyin from what I've seen and played.

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06-13-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
The reason the players I know like to play at the Rio poker room in particular is the stack sizes. It appears that 2/3 at Rio is a $200 to $1k buyin. So you end up with a bunch of mediocre 1/3 type players that are playing very deep...with stacks that are good sized for 2/5.
Trooper probably doesn't want to play deep, more because he doesn't want to play against players who prefer to play deep rather than because he is afraid to play against other deep stacks if he doubles up. He probably wants to play in poker rooms in casinos that are attractive to players on a budget who are more likely to be weak-tight so that they are more likely to fold to stupid aggression.

Is that a good room selection strategy? I don't know, but if that is how he thinks, I can see how it would make sense to some people.
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06-13-2017 , 03:05 PM
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To my knowledge Rio doesn't run a $2/$3, it's a $1/$3 with the normal $100-$300 buyin from what I've seen and played.

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I see they are running 1/3 right now (their 1/2 is $100 to $300 cap too if they still run it). They currently have a waitlist for both 2/5 and 2/3 NL Holdem 2x right now. Not sure what 2x means but it may refer to deep stacks.
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06-13-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
To my knowledge Rio doesn't run a $2/$3, it's a $1/$3 with the normal $100-$300 buyin from what I've seen and played.

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They have 1/3, 2/3, and 2/5 games going in the Rio poker room by the buffet (not the convention area that has all the WSOP stuff)
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06-13-2017 , 03:07 PM
This could be the case, but 1/3 and 2/5 are by far the popular choice, unsure of the buyin or play of the 2/3. Might have to check it out.

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06-13-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Trooper probably doesn't want to play deep, more because he doesn't want to play against players who prefer to play deep rather than because he is afraid to play against other deep stacks if he doubles up. He probably wants to play in poker rooms in casinos that are attractive to players on a budget who are more likely to be weak-tight so that they are more likely to fold to stupid aggression.

Is that a good room selection strategy? I don't know, but if that is how he thinks, I can see how it would make sense to some people.
I agree. That makes perfect sense to me considering he frequents Bally's and Golden Nugget 80%+ of the time, which fit that criteria perfectly. He never ever hardly goes to Venetian, Wynn, Aria, or Bellagio, where he would face the deepest pockets.
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06-13-2017 , 03:44 PM
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I agree. That makes perfect sense to me considering he frequents Bally's and Golden Nugget 80%+ of the time, which fit that criteria perfectly. He never ever hardly goes to Venetian, Wynn, Aria, or Bellagio, where he would face the deepest pockets.
Does anyone know if Trooper always buys in for the max when he plays 2/5?

It seems like his best situation would be to short buy a 2/5 game at any of non-Big 4 rooms (A,B,V,W) and try to hit and run.

Historically, I don't believe he has done very well playing deep thinking poker. Which is part of the reason blowing $570 on a Heads Up tournament was so comical..
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06-13-2017 , 03:44 PM
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... He never ever hardly goes to Venetian, Wynn, Aria, or Bellagio, where he would face the deepest pockets.
Trooper was regularly going to the Venetian in the Spring, then suddenly stopped, with no explanation.

Trooper was having good success at the Venetian, and bam, he stopped going there.

My guess is something happened ?
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06-13-2017 , 03:56 PM
I'm pretty sure Trooper always buys in for 100bbs when playing 2/5.
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06-13-2017 , 04:32 PM
The saddest thing in all of this is Trooper seeming to actively shun any of the rapidly increasing vlog comradery that's going on.
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06-13-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 8th_Street
fwiw just ran up 8k running way under EV in underground room in dallas. but downtown during wsop, blegh. work son. those same spots will be ready whenever.
I'm in Dallas, how did you find these games? What are the players like?

Last time I played in an underground game, the SWAT team kicked down the doors, gave everyone tickets and sent the operators and the old lady serving food to jail.

Dallas SWAT was filming everything. The episode never aired and I can only assume thats because no one would sign the waivers
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06-13-2017 , 04:48 PM
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The saddest thing in all of this is Trooper seeming to actively shun any of the rapidly increasing vlog comradery that's going on.
He probably thinks they don't respect him as a person and player, would never hang out with him if he didn't have a vlog, and only care about access to his viewers.

If I wanted to lure him into the group, I'd offer to hang out with no cameras.
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06-13-2017 , 05:23 PM
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The saddest thing in all of this is Trooper seeming to actively shun any of the rapidly increasing vlog comradery that's going on.
I think this is the most unfortunate thing of all, given what has transpireed with the vlogging explosion over the last year.

FWIW, I still watch his vlogs, apart from the mailtimes, and don't get what irritates everyone so much.

That said, I don't know him personally like some here, and I also didn't start watching regularly, until I got into Andrew's, when he put the pilot out.

I'm heading out for a month on Sunday, and will hopefully bump into Andrew & Brad if they host another get together whilst I am there.

I'll be at the Nugget for the first part of my trip, so will hopefully bump into Kraut & Trooper at some point, too.
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06-13-2017 , 05:28 PM
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I'm in Dallas, how did you find these games? What are the players like?



Last time I played in an underground game, the SWAT team kicked down the doors, gave everyone tickets and sent the operators and the old lady serving food to jail.



Dallas SWAT was filming everything. The episode never aired and I can only assume thats because no one would sign the waivers


PM me if you want to discuss
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06-13-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I see they are running 1/3 right now (their 1/2 is $100 to $300 cap too if they still run it). They currently have a waitlist for both 2/5 and 2/3 NL Holdem 2x right now. Not sure what 2x means but it may refer to deep stacks.
I think 2X may refer to $2/hour in comps and 34 Tier Credits/ hour, unlike their 1/2 and 1/3 games which are 17 TC/hr and $1/hr comps, so 2 times comps and tier credits.
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06-13-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Frechette's new one of him playing with Neeme in the Mirage vlogger game is very good..
I just watched that, and the previous one.
Guy is quite likeable, so I may watch some more in the future.

Is he playing the Vloggers game?
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