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05-20-2024 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
OG poster on here DGAF has been saying it for over decade but ok. I would say most people that have made money at poker in the US in any form are comfortably middle/upper middle class, and have above average intelligence. Limon and Rob Farha probably best rags to riches stories on this forum, and they still won the genetic lottery.

Did Pman just dox Jeremiah Williams for having a personal tragedy? That can be filed under saying something ridiculous/inappropriate.
i would say people coming from money using that as a crutch to keep failing until they make it is a modern phenomena. Dorks actually tell their parents they are playing poker "and crushing" now. When i started professional poker wasn't a thing, televised poker pros weren't a thing, online poker grinders from around the world weren't a thing, middle class (or upper) parents letting their kids "try poker as a career for a while" was like parents letting their kids try "robbing banks as a career for a while" it literally didn't exist. everyone who tried to make a living playing poker pre 2004 was willing to be seen as a semi criminal misfit and NEVER told their parents under any circumstances unless they wanted all help/money cut off and maybe an intervention. the one thing all OG pros have in common is this: we all ran like god at the beginning. its the only way anyone had a chance because there was ZERO family help for any of us and you couldn't "grind your way up" because the rake at the low levels of live poker is usury. you had to have no "bankroll management", run like god, play as big as possible, and figure it out as you went. We all built the plane while it was in the air.
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05-21-2024 , 01:08 AM
been playing live since 97/98 and Limon is spitting facts , if you said you were playing poker for a living you might as well say you sold crack and I came from very poor family but those with family money also lied .
I had 5 fake jobs until 2004 or so when the boom took place and then it was acceptable and also when trust fund kids started playing en masse in underground card rooms.
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05-21-2024 , 01:14 AM
Does Diesel even tell his parents about his poker? I would think that would piss them off. It's quite a ways from lawyering.
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05-21-2024 , 01:37 AM
Who is this Limon guy?
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05-21-2024 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Who is this Limon guy?
Isn’t he the guy who ran LATB back in the day? I can’t imagine there’s too many Limon’s out there
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05-21-2024 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by topg2024
He would have to go to Four Queens which never charges resort fees
You do realize "no resort fee" means it's basically factored into the room rate right?

You can get a Caesars room for $9 most week days (before resort fees). You can't get that at the Four Queens.
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05-21-2024 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Not sure what you need these days with YouTube to earn the most from content. I had heard on one stream that it's more about the views than the Likes these days.
Likes do not earn money on YouTube. It has always been views (specifically total time viewed). Likes AND dislikes can help YouTube's algorithm show it to more people, and I suppose indirectly lead to more money.
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05-21-2024 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
Smart move Pman! After the huge amount of live poker played also known as 30 hours at Westgate for one whole week, the last thing you want to do is burn yourself out before the WSOP. It's not like you are planning on using all of your own money to play tourneys.

But make no mistake everyone! The grind starts now!
You must be a truly miserable person
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05-21-2024 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Does Diesel even tell his parents about his poker? I would think that would piss them off. It's quite a ways from lawyering.
Rice's parents know about the poker, they don't know about the YouTube channel.
Pretty sure the YouTube channel would rattle Rice's parents.
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05-21-2024 , 08:35 AM
Rampage was indeed announced as a WPT Global Ambassador last April and is still shown on their site. Ivey and Owens are listed on both WPT and WPTG.

So considering this is May .. it must have been at least a 2 year deal. GL
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05-21-2024 , 10:02 AM
I was eating at a seafood and sushi restaurant last night. This party of 10 at another table ordered a huge sushi combo platter that was like 6 plates of 15 pieces each.

After they left, I noticed quite a few leftover pieces. One plate still had 8 salmon sushi while another had 6 tuna sushi. I said to myself "What would Diesel do?" and joked I should either swipe some pieces or ask the waitress if I could get a to go box for that table.

I was so sad to see that yummy salmon go to waste.
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05-21-2024 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
You do realize "no resort fee" means it's basically factored into the room rate right?

You can get a Caesars room for $9 most week days (before resort fees). You can't get that at the Four Queens.
No you can't and they're a complete scam.
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05-21-2024 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by limon
i would say people coming from money using that as a crutch to keep failing until they make it is a modern phenomena. Dorks actually tell their parents they are playing poker "and crushing" now. When i started professional poker wasn't a thing, televised poker pros weren't a thing, online poker grinders from around the world weren't a thing, middle class (or upper) parents letting their kids "try poker as a career for a while" was like parents letting their kids try "robbing banks as a career for a while" it literally didn't exist. everyone who tried to make a living playing poker pre 2004 was willing to be seen as a semi criminal misfit and NEVER told their parents under any circumstances unless they wanted all help/money cut off and maybe an intervention. the one thing all OG pros have in common is this: we all ran like god at the beginning. its the only way anyone had a chance because there was ZERO family help for any of us and you couldn't "grind your way up" because the rake at the low levels of live poker is usury. you had to have no "bankroll management", run like god, play as big as possible, and figure it out as you went. We all built the plane while it was in the air.
I try to name check in posts hoping that people vanity searching their names will pop in here. Limon and Pman are the only two I have gotten and one of those is not like the other lol always appreciate Limon posts even when it’s the greatest hits.

What we really need is a big Limon post/video/rant reaffirming how good button straddles are. If I hear someone trash a button straddle in a live game again I’m definitely going to berate them.

Also, think we are talking about different levels of wealth and skill level because there’s a big difference between Asian Poker Kids with their scantily clad girlfriend sitting behind them as they punt and a working grinder that is on their parents Cadillac health insurance plan til 26, got a nice car/cash for graduation, and still have to use apps to get a date.
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05-21-2024 , 11:21 AM
Yep, name search 100%. Appears like Candyman.
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05-21-2024 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by limon

.... We all built the plane while it was in the air.
No, you were more like a passenger in a plane someone else built and flew

Online poker operations took off around Spring 2001, when the first sustainable operators emerged. A few crashed and burned, a few merged or were sold off, and some today still trace back to 2001. Live poker boomed as a result of Travel Channel television coverage of online-fueled live games and tournament play and some engaging success stories, like Chris Moneymaker.

However, for all your accomplishments, I don't think you built a plane.
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05-21-2024 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
No, you were more like a passenger in a plane someone else built and flew

Online poker operations took off around Spring 2001, when the first sustainable operators emerged. A few crashed and burned, a few merged or were sold off, and some today still trace back to 2001. Live poker boomed as a result of Travel Channel television coverage of online-fueled live games and tournament play and some engaging success stories, like Chris Moneymaker.

However, for all your accomplishments, I don't think you built a plane.
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05-21-2024 , 02:39 PM
I thought I had a Paradise Poker account pre-2000.
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05-21-2024 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
I was eating at a seafood and sushi restaurant last night. This party of 10 at another table ordered a huge sushi combo platter that was like 6 plates of 15 pieces each.

After they left, I noticed quite a few leftover pieces. One plate still had 8 salmon sushi while another had 6 tuna sushi. I said to myself "What would Diesel do?" and joked I should either swipe some pieces or ask the waitress if I could get a to go box for that table.

I was so sad to see that yummy salmon go to waste.
Leave the fish, take the mayo.
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05-21-2024 , 06:32 PM
Japanese pocket mayo is widely regarded as the best pocket mayo in the world. Any one that owns some of that is a baller
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05-22-2024 , 12:50 AM
Well much to my surprise I still have my diamond drinks

Nice to not be lumped into the same group as poker "pro" vagrant.

Suck it Caesars!
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05-22-2024 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Well much to my surprise I still have my diamond drinks

Nice to not be lumped into the same group as poker "pro" vagrant.

Suck it Caesars!
It was taken away from a minority abusing the system. Those that went to the casino for the sole purpose of obtaining free drinks then not playing at all that day. Or those that would get free drinks at 1145pm and then again at 1215 am the next day and not play or spend any money at all. Rice regularly abused the system, then gloated about it on social media.

I guess Diesel hasn't figured out that casinos are for profit and will show any grifter the door without hesitation or warning.
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05-22-2024 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Suck it Caesars!
Lol why is your beef with Caesars? I'd be happy that they cleared the ranks of all the grubs. By being a bit more selective/targeted with their rewards it should improve things for everyone else. Next logical step is for them to do the same thing with the waived resort fees.
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05-22-2024 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDownLow
It was taken away from a minority abusing the system. Those that went to the casino for the sole purpose of obtaining free drinks then not playing at all that day. Or those that would get free drinks at 1145pm and then again at 1215 am the next day and not play or spend any money at all. Rice regularly abused the system, then gloated about it on social media.

I guess Diesel hasn't figured out that casinos are for profit and will show any grifter the door without hesitation or warning.
Exactly. Would be quite surprised if anyone had it revoked who was using it normally as intended.

People like Rice, for whom it was a substitute for their entire daily nutrition were the ones who found out that it was gone when they went for there daily rations at 12.01am on the first day of the month.
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05-22-2024 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
Lol why is your beef with Caesars? I'd be happy that they cleared the ranks of all the grubs. By being a bit more selective/targeted with their rewards it should improve things for everyone else. Next logical step is for them to do the same thing with the waived resort fees.
Caesars and MGM are pure dirtbag companies.
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05-22-2024 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Caesars and MGM are pure dirtbag companies.
the two aren't even comparable. if you know these casinos mgm is far superior to CET in every way almost.
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