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02-24-2024 , 10:08 PM
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02-24-2024 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
He didn't even show up.

I still don't understand the purpose for an awards show for poker.
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02-24-2024 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by prev
I still think that Diesel is a much better player than people give him credit for.

If he was forced to play a different style or higher stakes then I think he could easily adapt but the reason he doesn't is he doesn't have a need to adapt as he feels like he's already making enough money.

He has a system in place that he doesn't deviate from and that includes playing a lower variance style and playing with less aggressive players.

He doesn't really tilt and doesn't have degen tendencies, he's ahead of 99% of other poker players already there and those are the hardest traits to develop as a poker player imo.

Players like p-man, trooper and bikeking likely play relatively break even most of the tjme but have some fundamental leaks and likely goes on monkey tilt when things go badly. I do think Diesel understands the fundamental aspects of poker well enough
so doesn't have leaks there either. He just chooses a low variance style that most people could not do because it's so boring and /or they cannot survive off of the low hourly that Diesel makes.
i mean if your point is he's better than people who played poker for years and still couldn't beat 1/2 nl so they quit I can't argue.
But he's not good at poker.

Not tilting is a huge part of doing well in poker. But so is being able to play well when you're running like **** and handling swings well. Being so mentally weak you have to play in a manner where 2 buy in loss days are big or you need to run back to your hotel when you get felted right way just caps you to never being more than a small winner.
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02-24-2024 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
I still don't understand the purpose for an awards show for poker.
same as every other kind of awards show- to have a giant circle jerk.
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02-25-2024 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AzOther1
How does smoking weed cause damnation?
Violates the law of the land. Still illegal federally.
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02-25-2024 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
No, he mostly plays at Horseshoe and some Caesars and MGM Grand. Why play anywhere else like Resorts World, Wynn, Aria and Mandalay Bay where the games are deeper and attracts action players?

Aria was in his play rotation till they raised the max buy in at 1-3 to $500 and that became a pseudo 2-5 so he stopped playing there.
When did they do that? I played there late last year and didn't notice that.
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02-25-2024 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
When did they do that? I played there late last year and didn't notice that.
Just a few months ago.
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02-25-2024 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by prev
I still think that Diesel is a much better player than people give him credit for.

If he was forced to play a different style or higher stakes then I think he could easily adapt but the reason he doesn't is he doesn't have a need to adapt as he feels like he's already making enough money.

He has a system in place that he doesn't deviate from and that includes playing a lower variance style and playing with less aggressive players.

He doesn't really tilt and doesn't have degen tendencies, he's ahead of 99% of other poker players already there and those are the hardest traits to develop as a poker player imo.

Players like p-man, trooper and bikeking likely play relatively break even most of the tjme but have some fundamental leaks and likely goes on monkey tilt when things go badly. I do think Diesel understands the fundamental aspects of poker well enough
so doesn't have leaks there either. He just chooses a low variance style that most people could not do because it's so boring and /or they cannot survive off of the low hourly that Diesel makes.
I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.
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02-25-2024 , 02:04 AM
hu4rollz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-25-2024 , 02:10 AM
Pman's condo vs El Diesel's dividend portfolio.
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02-25-2024 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pmanprays
I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.
Geez way to focus
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02-25-2024 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pmanprays
I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.
prove it this year by beasting it in cash games!!
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02-25-2024 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
i mean if your point is he's better than people who played poker for years and still couldn't beat 1/2 nl so they quit I can't argue.
But he's not good at poker.

Not tilting is a huge part of doing well in poker. But so is being able to play well when you're running like **** and handling swings well. Being so mentally weak you have to play in a manner where 2 buy in loss days are big or you need to run back to your hotel when you get felted right way just caps you to never being more than a small winner.
he said that he was only like -110 or something when he was talking about all the coolers he had, and also ended up playing more than 8 hours a day during his failed hours challenge, he still grinded to basically even and anything above 8 hours is still solid imo.
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02-25-2024 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by prev
he said that he was only like -110 or something when he was talking about all the coolers he had, and also ended up playing more than 8 hours a day during his failed hours challenge, he still grinded to basically even and anything above 8 hours is still solid imo.
If you think his hourly last year was anywhere close to his lifetime average of $13/hr then you haven't been paying attention. And all signs point towards this year starting out just as poorly. Judging by his rants he has been frustrated as hell with his results for quite a while.

Just because he is able to subsist on breadcrumbs doesn't mean he is necessarily happy with the situation. It just means he's too stubborn and proud to make any changes and better his life.
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02-25-2024 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
If you think his hourly last year was anywhere close to his lifetime average of $13/hr then you haven't been paying attention. And all signs point towards this year starting out just as poorly. Judging by his rants he has been frustrated as hell with his results for quite a while.

Just because he is able to subsist on breadcrumbs doesn't mean he is necessarily happy with the situation. It just means he's too stubborn and proud to make any changes and better his life.
Yup, spot on.

If i would guess, i would place a bet that Diesel barely made money from playing poker in 2023. Like a maximum of 10K,likely even less than that.
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02-25-2024 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pmanprays
I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.

Guy who sold half his action in the WSOP special olympics and luckboxed his way to heads up and only lost his ass since says what?
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02-25-2024 , 02:27 PM
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I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.
Why? Why would you say this?
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02-25-2024 , 03:03 PM
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I would wager everything that I am a better player than Diesel.
Shouldn't you at least be a winning player before you make claims that you're better than someone?
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02-25-2024 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by prev
he said that he was only like -110 or something when he was talking about all the coolers he had, and also ended up playing more than 8 hours a day during his failed hours challenge, he still grinded to basically even and anything above 8 hours is still solid imo.
He named hands not coolers . Maybe one was a cooler. The rest were just cry baby nit stuff.

He just doesn't get people aren't putting money in against him light or without a big draw bc he's such a giant nit unless they only have like 50 bucks. He thinks it's a coincidence when he stacks top pair type hands they have 50 bucks. So yea KJ will call ten pre and on a 5 way flop lose their their 40 bucks with top pair but almost nobody is going that against him for full buy ins.

His method is absolutely better than tilting your face off and dumping tons of money. But it's so much worse than actually pushing edges and dealing well with the swings. It doesn't have to be either or.

It's the same kind of "logic" he has with money. He acts like the choices are make a lot more money and blow it all or make scraps and spend next to nothing. Again that is the either/or in his head.

He overall volume those 4 days was fine although well short of his challenge. But his last day he got set over set very early on in the session and went running back to his hotel room. Again better than tilting and playing like an idiot but way worse than just shrugging your shoulders and playing well after.

The issue isn't breaking even over 40 hours. Obviously anyone can break even or lose over 40 hours it means nothing. The issue is playing so scared he only has teeny tiny swings leaving a ton of money on the table in the process.

I mean we've all broken even over 40 hours. But the max high point and max low point during that stretch shouldn't be +/- 2 buy ins.

Last edited by borg23; 02-25-2024 at 03:54 PM.
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02-25-2024 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Why? Why would you say this?
Because

" I’d rather be true to myself and be divisive instead of put on a phony persona that everyone likes"
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02-25-2024 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by prev
prove it this year by beasting it in cash games!!
You bet i will Prev

Next vlog coming out is just going to be doggo pics, then around mid march i'll have a cash game update. + or - millions hopefully
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02-25-2024 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
He named hands not coolers . Maybe one was a cooler. The rest were just cry baby nit stuff.

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Guys like Rice and Troop have proven over the years in their vlog that they have zero post flop strategy. They call hands a cooler when, in actuality, they were maybe 60-65% preflop. They think because they have the best hand preflop, they deserve to ein the pot and the other person got lucky, sucked out, or "no one runs as bad as me".

Since their post flop strategy is non-existent, roll is limited, and they're so adverse to risk their bet sizing is often horrible to get the draws to fold.

A guy like Rice would lose his mind thinking, "How can he call $40 with a bottom pair and a straight draw", not understanding that $40 is nothing to the average American or poker degen. Whereas Troop plays the revenge route of "This guy sucked out on me last time/I don't like him. I'm going to get him back. I'm due for a win. I can't possibly lose another one... ALL IN". And the villain gets there in another "good game". There's guys like this at every table in Vegas, and if you pick up on it and iso them, it's a free money glitch.
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02-25-2024 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Guys like Rice and Troop have proven over the years in their vlog that they have zero post flop strategy. They call hands a cooler when, in actuality, they were maybe 60-65% preflop. They think because they have the best hand preflop, they deserve to ein the pot and the other person got lucky, sucked out, or "no one runs as bad as me".

Since their post flop strategy is non-existent, roll is limited, and they're so adverse to risk their bet sizing is often horrible to get the draws to fold.

A guy like Rice would lose his mind thinking, "How can he call $40 with a bottom pair and a straight draw", not understanding that $40 is nothing to the average American or poker degen. Whereas Troop plays the revenge route of "This guy sucked out on me last time/I don't like him. I'm going to get him back. I'm due for a win. I can't possibly lose another one... ALL IN". And the villain gets there in another "good game". There's guys like this at every table in Vegas, and if you pick up on it and iso them, it's a free money glitch.
Lmao @troopers "good games"

Almost all of my biggest losses are in good games. But so are my biggest wins.

Trooper would get his head bashed open in those good games or win 1-2 buy ins. Never won big.
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02-25-2024 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by topg2024
I theoretically could have reset 2/1/24 but the new video claims its a rolling 12 month period. So if that is the case anyone who has played 12.5 hour per month for each month of the past year will maintain permanent tier status.
Based on his travels, he did not meet the 12.5-hour requirement.
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02-25-2024 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
He didn't even show up.

There were more no-show winners than members of the audience.
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