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07-08-2023 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Gonna give my couple of cents on this while i cant sleep.

There is multiple red flags over the course of several weeks months that gives me the read that Trooper is worse off financially than in a very long time.

1)He has played a noticeable smaller amount of cashgamevolume lately outside of TT where he just plays from the rake. This is very understandable,pokerplayers seems to be less motivated to play when they are losing or the roll gets small. Its a way of avoiding further pain regarding to losing money.

2) The sessions also seems to be shorter,or Trooper cuts them shorter maybe due to a short roll. For example i cannot remember the last time he hit his 1k stoploss that Trooper have executed for a very long time. Its likely he just quits before it gets that bad nowadays due to less money.

3) Wsop comes around and he proceeds to sell 80!! percent of himself in a freaking 300 dollar tourney. And recently of course the much talked about pure freeroll in the main where he sold 80 percent with a 1,25 markup. So the guy is only interested in pulling up 100 bucks of his own money for a 300 donkament,and zero of his own dollars for the main.

4) Lady T have been going Trooper style for a while now,vlogging every single day. This seems to me like quite a desperat attempt to get another source of income going,they are praying that her channel gets some traction.

5) Intensity in the merch pushing has gone up. Ive followed Trooper for a long time now,and yes sure he have pushed merch before many times of course. But from what i can gather of his body language,or the gut feeling ive got over the last few months is that its more serious now when he talks about the pops in particular. You get the sense that they REALLY needs the money and REALLY prays that this candy business will blow up.
its amazing the lengths people will go not to work for "the man", if trooper had started dealing at the beginning of wsop he would have exceeded his yearly income in two months, and he still would have had the other 10 months to do whatever he wanted to do.
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07-08-2023 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
its amazing the lengths people will go not to work for "the man", if trooper had started dealing at the beginning of wsop he would have exceeded his yearly income in two months, and he still would have had the other 10 months to do whatever he wanted to do.
Yeah i mean can you imagine the amount of tips he would get dealing in the cashgames? His hourly would be through the roof.

The combination of him being a very good and fast dealer,and a known vlogger at the same time would have been absolutely nutz. He would just be printing money at a rate he have never done in his life before.
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07-08-2023 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Trooper will be in seat 2 on day 2 and have Ryan Lenaghan on his direct left, seat 3. He got 16th in the main event 2011 and has 1.2M in live cashes.

My guess is he will have Trooper on tilt after a few hours or less.

https://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/21...TS-BY-SEAT.pdf
What table?
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07-08-2023 , 08:06 AM
Why are people still saying Trooper or even Diesel should be dealers? In live cash grinding you trade time for money, promo grinders trade their souls for money, and in dealing you trade body condition for money. The only dealers that aren’t orthopedic nightmares are the super thin people that also have a long wingspan and big hands. Trooper has none of these traits, at 50 and already in bad shape, he would be putting himself through a meat grinder dealing a full WSOP. Plus he doesn’t care/make enough to see doctors.
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07-08-2023 , 08:10 AM
Diesel is some kind of special. From his latest vlog which is another Q&A, he considers himself TAG while also doing unconventional stuff that no one else does. If you have ever played with Diesel, you would know in 30 minutes he's far from a tag. I would consider him fairly nitty, fairly weak and only piles in chips with a strong range. Typical OMC.

Then he answers why he doesn't play bigger and win more money. First he answers correctly that he would need a large sample size to determine if he would win more at 2-5. Then he says he makes more than enough at 1-2/1-3 so there's no urgency to move up, while also saying earlier in the Q&A that he expects to net $6000 on the year.

I mean when you are doing extreme challenges like only spending $20 cash in a week, $10/hr is plenty.

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07-08-2023 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Bretsky or whatever his name is, having an interview with Platt on the WSOP coverage at his table.
Ended the day with 96k
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07-08-2023 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Yeah i mean can you imagine the amount of tips he would get dealing in the cashgames? His hourly would be through the roof.

The combination of him being a very good and fast dealer,and a known vlogger at the same time would have been absolutely nutz. He would just be printing money at a rate he have never done in his life before.
He would be making a higher hourly than 98% of the people he was dealing to. The only explanation I can think of to why he doesn’t is that he has a massive ego and has a strange fascination with “going to battle” against the entire world outside of the 5k people who watch his videos and in his mind getting a dealing job would entail admitting he’s a failure to those people. So instead he decides to show them by delivering sparkli pops on the strip for the same hourly as a Vietnamese sweatshop worker.
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07-08-2023 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
Then he says he makes more than enough at 1-2/1-3 so there's no urgency to move up, while also saying earlier in the Q&A that he expects to net $6000 on the year.

I mean when you are doing extreme challenges like only spending $20 cash in a week, $10/hr is plenty.


Yeah he claims he makes "more than enough" at the stakes he plays, but thats because he goes out of his way to live as frugally as humanly possible.

Anyone with half a brain would prefer to make more more and live a better lifestyle. Even if they claim to not want a better lifestyle because they enjoy living like a homeless bum, if they earned more money per hour they could play less hours for the same profit, or they could just earn more and then "retire" sooner. Everyone knows it's better to be making more money per hour, there's no down side.

Him pretending like he doesn't desire to make more money is a coping mechanism because he knows he can't or he's too afraid of the bigger swings it would involve.

He says the biggest downswing he has ever gone on is -$2500. That really sums it up right there. He's just an incredibly risk averse nit. If you gave him the choice between a guaranteed $1k or a 50/50 chance to win $100k he would take the $1k
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07-08-2023 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
Why are people still saying Trooper or even Diesel should be dealers? In live cash grinding you trade time for money, promo grinders trade their souls for money, and in dealing you trade body condition for money. The only dealers that aren’t orthopedic nightmares are the super thin people that also have a long wingspan and big hands. Trooper has none of these traits, at 50 and already in bad shape, he would be putting himself through a meat grinder dealing a full WSOP. Plus he doesn’t care/make enough to see doctors.
Ive never ever mentioned a dealing gig suitable for El Diesel (mostly because he is too socially weird/uncomfortable), but for Trooper it just makes a ton of sense given his life situation,limited skillset in life (i dont know if he have an education at all?) and from an earning more money perspective.

Trooper has experience with dealing cards before, also in Vegas- and posters on 2+2 have reported that he is really really good. He have been threading water for several years now doing his vlog thing: sucking it up and doing a dealing gig is a crystal clear opportunity for him to put money in the bank based on being kind of a vlogger celebrity in Las Vegas. His fans or Troops would love to play at his table,and i think the combination of being a top dealer+ well known vlogger would lead to him getting huge amount of tips. Heck, i would have been extra generous with the tips myself if Trooper was dealing at my cashtable as a thank you for all the years of vlogging if he did a good job creating a good game by dealing fast cracking couple of jokes++.
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07-08-2023 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
Diesel/Rice/Nomad, in the Q&A, that he expects to net $6000 on the year.
In all fairness to Rice, a $6K net is better than what most people making less than $50K net.
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07-08-2023 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
What table?
It's in the link, you don't know his name is Watts?

Paris / 11 / 2
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07-08-2023 , 10:25 AM
Brettski out?
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07-08-2023 , 10:28 AM
Trooper sitting pretty in 2364th place with 45,200..
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07-08-2023 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Ive never ever mentioned a dealing gig suitable for El Diesel (mostly because he is too socially weird/uncomfortable)
Yeah El D is likely too much of an autist to foster a fun atmosphere at the table. He would probably get caught up in the most minor rules and speak about them in too much depth to the detriment of the game. He would also probably get trolled by players who wanted to wind him up. Just can't see a table with him dealing going that well.
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07-08-2023 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Brettski out?


#1343 -- Brett Stern -- $96,000
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07-08-2023 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Brettski out?
no he was day 2ABC

96k ctrl+f brett stern

https://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/21...0BY%20NAME.pdf
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07-08-2023 , 10:52 AM
i guess boski is out i cant find him on the chip counts report
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07-08-2023 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
#1343 -- Brett Stern -- $96,000
Fantastic!

I searched for him this morning in the chip count. Using ‘Brett Stern’ on the PokerNews App but he didn’t show up.

Brettski will be the next RDP. Love his vlogs.

Edit: I’m an idiot I looked for Brett Stein not Brett Stern.

THE NUMBAHS!
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07-08-2023 , 11:42 AM
Brettski definitely had the right strat for someone who is not a crusher of buying in at the start of day 2 - the other marginal players like pman, trooper, lexy, marle would have been better off following the same strat

pman - busted day 1
Vibes - busted day 1
Lexy Gavin - busted day 1
Negreanu - busted day 2
Marle - busted day 2
Boski - busted day 2
Brad Owen - busted day 2
Trooper - 45k thru day 1
Rampage - 61k thru day 1
Neeme - 99k thru day 1
Depaulo - 69k thru day 2
Brettski - 96k thru day 2
Doug Polk - 433k thru day 2
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07-08-2023 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
i guess boski is out i cant find him on the chip counts report
Yes, unfortunately. Looks like it was real late. Number 1891 on the Day 2ABC listing.
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07-08-2023 , 11:50 AM
Who's bettah wit da numbahs?

Brettski or Rice?
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07-08-2023 , 12:13 PM
I believe boski is out I saw him leave mid tourny yesterday although could’ve been taking a walk. Beloved 2+2 poster luvdavlogs also out right before dinner break.


El diesels thing he always says about he’s better off than people who make 100k because he saves 6k a year and some people who make 100k a year save less than that is so crazy and such cope it really is wild. Like you’re saving 6k a year because you are living an extremely frugal lifestyle, if you make 100k which is always his example, you are also allowed to live an extremely frugal lifestyle it isn’t like you have to spend all of your money as some people do. Also a very big thing: el diesel saving 6k a year and let’s say he gets the standard s&p 10% return on his modest investments even tho there’s no way he’s getting market value with his strat, would you rather have that or let’s say the 100k person has a house now worth 500k that in 20-30 years is worth a million. Would you rather be el diesel spending 25$ in a week or the person with the million dollar property who lived a real life? It’s not even close or a real comparison it’s just cope for his life choices
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07-08-2023 , 12:21 PM
He called off a lot of chips with an under boat.

RDP still in slightly above starting.
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07-08-2023 , 12:34 PM
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07-08-2023 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
In all fairness to Rice, a $6K net is better than what most people making less than $50K net.
Yes, but he lives a bare bones lifestyle and only manages to be up 500 a month doing that and without future guarantee. That's living on the edge. One mistep, one mishap and he's way behind the 8 ball.
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