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05-25-2022 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
The only thing Las Vegas Poker has going for it is cheaper hotel rooms/housing.
Other than that, you are better off a dozen other places in the country.
I've played in Las Vegas for most of the last 30 years. I think you overlook the biggest advantage to poker in Las Vegas.

There is a never ending supply of tourists looking to gamble it up at poker on their trip to Las Vegas. That seemingly puts a lot more loose money into play in poker than you might expect in a non-tourist location.

I don't play non-Las Vegas venues (in the US) and would not know if there is a marked difference in skill level for example So, your main point may be valid despite what I see as a favorable tourist factor for Las Vegas.
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05-25-2022 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
I don't play non-Las Vegas venues (in the US) and would not know if there is a marked difference in skill level for example So, your main point may be valid despite what I see as a favorable tourist factor for Las Vegas.
he is correct ainec
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05-25-2022 , 05:23 PM
For sheer profit even at the lowest stakes, Texas has surpassed Vegas and it ain't even close.

So much dead money being tossed around it is simply amazing.
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05-25-2022 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trixie2
For sheer profit even at the lowest stakes, Texas has surpassed Vegas and it ain't even close.

So much dead money being tossed around it is simply amazing.
Try Costa Rica or Panama
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05-26-2022 , 12:10 AM
Trooper: "Game was actually pretty decent too."
The 10:30 mark.

https://youtu.be/sFq3ywSQ5qY?t=630
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05-26-2022 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Trixie2
For sheer profit even at the lowest stakes, Texas has surpassed Vegas and it ain't even close.

So much dead money being tossed around it is simply amazing.
Especially at the lowest stakes I'd say. Texas for sure has the softest and biggest 1/2 and 1/3 in the country (of any decent sized poker market). 2/5 is another story and it's hard for me to judge. I do very well in the Dallas game and would like to say it's great but at times it's very euro-pro heavy. The game can also play extraordinarily big. To really be profitable in the Dallas 2/5 over a decent sample I'd say you'd want to be capable of beating typical 5/T games. If you aren't capable, then I think you'll have problems but who knows, perhaps I'm wrong.

By all accounts, Houston PLO games have been amazing. Not sure if that is still the case but from what I've heard it seems there has probably been more money given away in those games than any other US public games that I know of in recent years.
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05-26-2022 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
You sir, are correct. Let's hope Slow Poker heeds the command, much like the Warriors did in the actual movie.
Good news: I do get the reference.
Bad news: Career conflicts have slowed Slow Poker production.

Thank you for your patience.
More importantly, thank you for your dated references.
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05-26-2022 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
I've played in Las Vegas for most of the last 30 years. I think you overlook the biggest advantage to poker in Las Vegas.

There is a never ending supply of tourists looking to gamble it up at poker on their trip to Las Vegas. That seemingly puts a lot more loose money into play in poker than you might expect in a non-tourist location.

I don't play non-Las Vegas venues (in the US) and would not know if there is a marked difference in skill level for example So, your main point may be valid despite what I see as a favorable tourist factor for Las Vegas.
El Diesel has played a bunch of hours all over the country and showed that his winrate is actually the lowest in Vegas. He said Vegas players are better at not giving their money away than they are in other places.
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05-26-2022 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
El Diesel has played a bunch of hours all over the country and showed that his winrate is actually the lowest in Vegas. He said Vegas players are better at not giving their money away than they are in other places.
If you, yourself, are a local in Las Vegas you pretty much know maybe 4 or 5 people on any given table, at least by sight. That leaves three or so potential tourists to watch, so there are two different groups in a given game ..... and the tourists present a different style of play because they ARE tourists. How they may play at home is often influenced negatively by their being in the Las Vegas game as tourists.

Just saying, not arguing the point.
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05-26-2022 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
If you, yourself, are a local in Las Vegas you pretty much know maybe 4 or 5 people on any given table, at least by sight. That leaves three or so potential tourists to watch, so there are two different groups in a given game ..... and the tourists present a different style of play because they ARE tourists. How they may play at home is often influenced negatively by their being in the Las Vegas game as tourists.

Just saying, not arguing the point.
It depends on which poker room you're at. I've found that rooms like Aria, Bellagio and Wynn draw a lot of tourists that try to play their best. A room like Planet Hollywood did not but of course, that option is gone.
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05-26-2022 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
It depends on which poker room you're at. I've found that rooms like Aria, Bellagio and Wynn draw a lot of tourists that try to play their best. A room like Planet Hollywood did not but of course, that option is gone.
This is so true about Aria in particular. Such a nice room and so convenient to the non-smoking spots where I usually stay (Vdara or Park MGM), but I always have a miserable time playing there. Backpacks as far as the eye can see, and even the touristy recs that play there have been the kings of their midwest home games since 2006. It's a shame because the room itself, physically, is one of the nicest. But the games are abysmal. My lowest winrate in Vegas is Aria and my highest is Caesars followed by Wynn/Encore.
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05-26-2022 , 06:19 PM
How much are tourists dropping in these games really? I think I'd rather player with degens who gamble it up day in and day out. Playing 1/2 in Texas the other day the one thing I noticed was that many of the players were PLO and 5-card players. Some of them were used to buying in for $1k at PLO and at times having 5 figure swings. Dropping $2k+ at a 1/2 table is like no big deal for these guys. My experience in Vegas is that these type of players were pretty rare.
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05-26-2022 , 07:07 PM
Latest trooper Results:



Spoiler:


+550, -400

2022: +12,766

Cash Games: +2,949




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05-26-2022 , 07:19 PM
Trooper is always afraid of "drive-bys". What a horrible existence.
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05-26-2022 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jrjrjr
Good news: I do get the reference.
Bad news: Career conflicts have slowed Slow Poker production.

Thank you for your patience.
More importantly, thank you for your dated references.
a real poker vlogger would live in track housing or sleep out of his car in order quit his bs side hustle he calls a career and pump out those youtube vlogs

just think, if you play your cards right and stick with it, you too could be making lollipop deliveries in ten years time
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05-26-2022 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
a real poker vlogger would live in track housing or sleep out of his car in order quit his bs side hustle he calls a career and pump out those youtube vlogs

just think, if you play your cards right and stick with it, you too could be making lollipop deliveries in ten years time
Track housing?

would that be on railroad or subway tracks?
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05-26-2022 , 08:16 PM
lol whoopsies
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05-27-2022 , 01:35 PM
El Diesel's latest poker vlog is about poker bankroll.

He feels you would have to be incredibly rich in order to set aside $15k in a separate account just for poker, and if you could dedicate $15k to nothing but poker, you must be so wealthy bankroll management really doesn't matter.

So his advice of ignoring the rule of thumb of 20 buy-in plus 6 months living expenses bankroll should probably consider the statement above before accepting his thoughts and viewpoints on the subject.
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05-27-2022 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IQofTwoPlusTwo
El Diesel's latest poker vlog is about poker bankroll.

He feels you would have to be incredibly rich in order to set aside $15k in a separate account just for poker, and if you could dedicate $15k to nothing but poker, you must be so wealthy bankroll management really doesn't matter.

So his advice of ignoring the rule of thumb of 20 buy-in plus 6 months living expenses bankroll should probably consider the statement above before accepting his thoughts and viewpoints on the subject.
Such a classic. Every underrolled low stakes grinder have their own excuses/explenations about why well approved bankroll management rules doesent apply to them.

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05-27-2022 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Every underrolled low stakes grinder has their own explanations about why bankroll management rules don't apply to them.
El Diesel is smarter than the rest of us.
Look at the great life he lives.
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05-27-2022 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by IQofTwoPlusTwo
El Diesel's latest poker vlog is about poker bankroll.

He feels you would have to be incredibly rich in order to set aside $15k in a separate account just for poker, and if you could dedicate $15k to nothing but poker, you must be so wealthy bankroll management really doesn't matter.

So his advice of ignoring the rule of thumb of 20 buy-in plus 6 months living expenses bankroll should probably consider the statement above before accepting his thoughts and viewpoints on the subject.
That is hilarious.

Even funnier was him stating that his "goal" for his first year living in Vegas was to end the year having the exact same amount of money that he started with. That's some goal.
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05-27-2022 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
That is hilarious.



Even funnier was him stating that his "goal" for his first year living in Vegas was to end the year having the exact same amount of money that he started with. That's some goal.
I feel that with so few views on youtube almost all of them must be coming from here. I actually really like the guy. Some of the stuff he says is absurd and he has set his goals so low but he does seem to have to his head screwed on. It's a bit of a contradiction in terms. Good luck to him though!
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05-27-2022 , 03:28 PM
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05-27-2022 , 03:48 PM
Such survivorship bias, the guy who says he can just have a BR of 300 has to be one of the worst poker players there are. Like thats not a testament to skill like these broke guys think it is, it isnt a testament to skill for el deisel to say hes only had 1k+ downswings twice, thats something that is not good and why you only make 14$ an hour or whatever it is instead of 20-30, thats why youre at 1-2 making 14$ an hour instead 2-5 making 50+. You cant control variance like that and if you try to at 1-2 you can eek out a super low winrate, but youre never going get past that stage in poker. Youre just never going to progress if you dont improve or try to improve, thats how you become the trooper at 50 making no money. These guys all have this scarcity mindset and i get it because in order to survive you cant go broke, and going broke is the worst thing, so everything is set up to avoid going broke because theres not a next level to go down to after this, the next level is like working for uber or something. I also find these guys always have the mindset that anyone doing better than them had some unfair advantage to be able to do it, like i hear people i know playing 1-2 and if you brought up someone playing higher they all say oh they are just rich, not realizing they didnt start rich, they started right where you are. Its a real small thing but i think its disrespectful to people who make it out of the 1-2 trap i guess
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05-27-2022 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
Such survivorship bias, the guy who says he can just have a BR of 300 has to be one of the worst poker players there are. Like thats not a testament to skill like these broke guys think it is, it isnt a testament to skill for el deisel to say hes only had 1k+ downswings twice, thats something that is not good and why you only make 14$ an hour or whatever it is instead of 20-30, thats why youre at 1-2 making 14$ an hour instead 2-5 making 50+. You cant control variance like that and if you try to at 1-2 you can eek out a super low winrate, but youre never going get past that stage in poker. Youre just never going to progress if you dont improve or try to improve, thats how you become the trooper at 50 making no money. These guys all have this scarcity mindset and i get it because in order to survive you cant go broke, and going broke is the worst thing, so everything is set up to avoid going broke because theres not a next level to go down to after this, the next level is like working for uber or something. I also find these guys always have the mindset that anyone doing better than them had some unfair advantage to be able to do it, like i hear people i know playing 1-2 and if you brought up someone playing higher they all say oh they are just rich, not realizing they didnt start rich, they started right where you are. Its a real small thing but i think its disrespectful to people who make it out of the 1-2 trap i guess
Great thread. Dylan Weisman had some tweet last week about downswings and El Diesel commented that he's been profitable 27/27 of his last months. That's his goal-- staying alive as a professional poker player and getting by month to month. There's no long term goal setting, "How can I get to being a winning 5-10 reg", no study to improve your playstyle and increase your winrate. The thinking is "This works, I can eke out $15/hr and survive while playing poker all day long, why do anything that could possibly change that".
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