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04-12-2022 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
Watch out with your criticisms of pman unless you want him to run to the mods and tell you not to post in his thread anymore.
Well he did say he was never going to post ITT anymore and I don't think that lasted for a month, but whatever.
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04-12-2022 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Well he did say he was never going to post ITT anymore,
and I don't think that lasted a month
Pman has posted 3 'one liners' here, in the last 2 months.
Hardly called 'posting' itt.
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04-12-2022 , 10:49 PM
her left lymph nodes are out of control enflamed in that thumbnail

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04-13-2022 , 02:55 AM
Episode number 8, and I think either poker is making an increasing amount of sense to me, or I'm slowly losing my mind. Either way, cool.
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04-13-2022 , 01:32 PM
^^ I like that video, I think I'll go watch some more of them.
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04-13-2022 , 03:12 PM


El Diesel with one of his most interesting videos. He gives his stats in several different areas of the country.

In 4,459 hours in Vegas, he won $12.66 an hour which is his lowest winrate out of everywhere he played. He said the games in Vegas are the tightest and players there are better at not bleeding money away compared to other cities.

He did say after 9 minutes into the video that he played a LAG style in Vegas at one point for 8 months because the games called for it.
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04-13-2022 , 03:48 PM
i would have assumed a heavy distribution of tourists play 1-2 in vegas, is this not the case?
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04-13-2022 , 04:13 PM
Yes, Vegas 1/2 has more tourists than other locations. However, it also has more pros than other locations and has an exorbitant number of wannabe pros, ie guys that have failed or will fail at going pro but are still much tighter/better than your average 1/2 player.
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04-13-2022 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
Watch out with your criticisms of pman unless you want him to run to the mods and tell you not to post in his thread anymore.
His soy boy followers will harass you also if you criticize and speak the truth. Very unstable lot. Very intolerant of other views.
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04-13-2022 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Yes, Vegas 1/2 has more tourists than other locations. However, it also has more pros than other locations and has an exorbitant number of wannabe pros, ie guys that have failed or will fail at going pro but are still much tighter/better than your average 1/2 player.
Nice thinly veiled shot at Trooper imo.
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04-13-2022 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
i would have assumed a heavy distribution of tourists play 1-2 in vegas, is this not the case?
Unfortunately it’s more like a heavy distribution of nits.

That’s even more true if he ever plays during an “hours played” promo.

And 1-2 does have more players that are more risk adverse in Vegas. They are scared to lose too much so they play 1-2.
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04-13-2022 , 05:30 PM
With inflation I don't know if someone can be a "pro" at 1/2. If they haven't moved up to at least 2/5 by now they have to be getting by on poverty wages.
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04-13-2022 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
With inflation I don't know if someone can be a "pro" at 1/2. If they haven't moved up to at least 2/5 by now they have to be getting by on poverty wages.
Or a trust fund
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04-13-2022 , 05:50 PM
i find it so hilarious the amount of trust fund chatter

aim a little higher people, you genuinely think someone with a trust fund is going to decide they are going to fake grinding 1-2 for a living when they could instead do literally whatever they wanted

but lets say they don't want a real job but want some day to day structure then why choose 1-2 over going about galavanting as someone involved with non profits or an artist or an investor

i'm going to be taking a road trip this weekend and the vehicle won't have easy pass so i'll be bumping into a lot of toll booth operators, everyone knows faking a career as a toll both operator is a long time tradition of trust fund babies so i'll be sure to yell at them "we are the 99%" each time i drive through

then when i arrive at the destination i'll find the nearest middle school and start harassing those trust fund wannabe janitors

i'll make you proud mirage, just like you never could with your father
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04-13-2022 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
... you think someone with a trust fund is going to fake grinding 1-2, when they could instead do literally whatever they wanted?
Yes, if that's what they want to do.
The mind works in mysterious ways.
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04-13-2022 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Yes, Vegas 1/2 has more tourists than other locations. However, it also has more pros than other locations and has an exorbitant number of wannabe pros, ie guys that have failed or will fail at going pro but are still much tighter/better than your average 1/2 player.
I disagree about an exorbitant mix being the norm. , these "failed" or "will fail" wannabe pros make for good opponents at !/2 or 1/3, the lowest levels offered in Las Vegas.

I am a rec player, for 40 years, mostly in Las Vegas. Give me a table with 8 opponents, i.e 4 tourists and 4 failing wannabe pros all night,... please. That is a ratio to look for, trust me..... the tighter the wannabe pros play, the better.

Tourists look for action, if someone else gives it, the pros can sit all night, like the crocodiles under the Tarcoles River bridge in Costa Rica. Sitting a little up river , and giving some more frequent action works fine in my experience. The flow around the table preflop is a lot like the river flow.

Fwiw, I don't think anyone can make a pro living without moving up from those 2 lowest rungs, a self-selection conveyor belt process that moves "successful" wannabe pros up and out.
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04-13-2022 , 06:40 PM
here's a hint, if you guys want to find trust fund people who masquerade as profitable poker players then you gotta look at the prestige games not 1-2

there's a number of poker people who are pretty well known and definitely net losers because their money comes from off the felt but for reasons of vanity tried to act like they were professional poker players

eli elezra is perhaps one of the better examples, a more current one would be lynne from live at the bike
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04-13-2022 , 06:45 PM
I always thought the trust fun chatter was more of an elbow/wink and they were more saying that he is getting outside help from the fam in the form of an allowance. Fact is the story/narrative has changed over time so who knows or cares what is ackshually true.
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04-13-2022 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
I am a rec player, for 40 years, mostly in Las Vegas. Give me a table with 8 opponents, i.e 4 tourists and 4 failing wannabe pros all night,... please. That is a ratio to look for, trust me..... the tighter the wannabe pros play, the better.
This just means that you've never experienced truly great 1/2 action. If there are players in a game that are slightly +EV or even slightly -EV obviously it's going to be a worse game than a game with 8 donators.

BTW, there are pros who have played years at 1/2 or 1/3. Some of them are in these very forums.
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04-13-2022 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
I always thought the trust fun chatter was more of an elbow/wink and they were more saying that he is getting outside help from the fam in the form of an allowance. Fact is the story/narrative has changed over time so who knows or cares what is ackshually true.
that's definitely the case with a lot of the references but zero chance mirage is capable of sarcasm or humor
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04-13-2022 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
I always thought the trust fun chatter was more of an elbow/wink and they were more saying that he is getting outside help from the fam in the form of an allowance. Fact is the story/narrative has changed over time so who knows or cares what is ackshually true.
Yeah, but unfortunately pman let on that the Trust Fun talk bothered him so the Mean Girls can't let it go now.
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04-13-2022 , 08:15 PM
Obfuscating facts, telling half truths, changing narratives for all to see will bite you in the ass

jus sayin
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04-13-2022 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Yeah, but unfortunately pman let on that the Trust Fun talk bothered him so the Mean Girls can't let it go now.
Well, there's no way a mediocre small stakes part time poker player can afford to live without assistance. His story just doesn't add up.
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04-13-2022 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
Obfuscating facts, telling half truths, changing narratives for all to see will bite you in the ass

jus sayin
True story. It's not like he didn't see how this thread treats youtubers before he started posting here too, so he knew what he was getting into from day 1, I guess. Turning down your generous offer of assistance was when he jumped the shark imo.
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04-13-2022 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Taeyeon
The plo pro turned dealer turned pro is back with his second vlog!

Enjoyed the second vlog.
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