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03-15-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
The problem is a lot of these guys are decent (basically as you move up the silent nits are a little less bad on average, some are actually good) at poker and see it purely in terms of math and ev not realizing a lot of poker is social and psychological
They should take a course in psychological poker warfare from the Trooper.

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Even worse they think it's an accomplishment to be better than someone at a game they take seriously that their opponent doesn't. It's not.
Yes, poker grinders think way too highly of themselves.

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Originally Posted by KingAnything999
i didn't view troop's comment about taking chips offensive at all. It's a competitive game. and trash talk is pretty normal amongst men. i think the average recreational player will find a little table talk add to the vegas experience. not feel unwelcome or abused. and the main thing that runs off recs and tourists is lost money not the absence of a tour guide or host at the table.

on this one, people are just finding flaws and holes in trooper.

d.c. get in here and straighten the critics out. lol


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I try to defend Trooper as much as possible, but unfortunately when it comes to poker there is often no defense. I'm ok with table talk and getting in players heads, but Trooper's delivery is a bit off. Trooper has real emotions behinds his words. He really wants to vanquish his opponents at the table. They are not his friends, and I think that is quite apparent when playing with him. Being friendly with other players is clearly a better approach to take.
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03-15-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks

In the middle you have Trooper. He definitely enjoys vlogging and getting his videos and opinions out there. Yet his content is very weak due to the quantity of videos that he throws out there. Also, he seems very desperate for money and gives off a very heavy begging feel in his vlog. He has really half ass-ed trying to cash in on his videos and it is hurting his brand a lot. Had he released t-shirts and mugs with "What up, it's the Trooper!", it would have been a popular item and would have been a better way for people to support him rather than send in Starbucks gift cards. (It's not too late, Trooper. Wake up!)
I thought Trooper was selling t-shirts (not sure if it was on the Blind Squirrel website). I think it was last summer.
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03-15-2017 , 07:37 PM
PokerKrauts videos are a 1000 times better than Troopers. Its a crime he only has 3k subs....
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03-15-2017 , 07:58 PM
I don't understand why Kraut doesn't have more subs. I recall the first video on his page being in german and so I avoided his channel for a long time thinking it was all in German, but right now there are only 2 vloggers whose videos I never miss: Trooper and PokerKraut. (I'm behind a bit on Boski's but do plan to get caught back up with his at some point too).
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03-15-2017 , 09:22 PM
That JJ hand shows why I think Trooper has the most interesting/entertaining hand histories. Other guys will talk about the line villain took, his range, his tendencies, etc. With Trooper you get attempted psychological warfare and talk about live tells. There was no talk about ranges at all. Trooper picked up a tell or two, put his opponent on a bluff and made the "sick" call.

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03-15-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
That JJ hand is why I think Trooper has the most interesting/entertaining hand histories. Other guys will talk about the line villain took, his range, his tendencies, etc. With Trooper you get attempted psychological warfare and talk about live tells. There was no talk about ranges at all. Trooper picked up a tell or two, put his opponent on a bluff and made the "sick" call.
Is it just me or is there something off about Trooper making a separate video about that 1 hand? How many times has he called off with middle pair on a KKxQx board on the river to a large bet and been dead wrong when his opponent rolled over a Q or K and not included it in the vlog?

I find it funny how he puts so much emphasis on this one hand when his "read" was purely some tell that the guy had. Nothing about the line taken or ranges as mentioned above. I really believe that he makes this call very often and many times finds himself getting stacked and just writes it off as running bad.
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03-15-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Pokerkraut might be the most likeable guy ever. That intro was gold. I had to take a 5 minute break to gather myself when he was boxing the chicken in the garage.

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Mrs Krauts line delivery was excellent as well! Ty gor the vids PK!!

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03-15-2017 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
That JJ hand shows why I think Trooper has the most interesting/entertaining hand histories. Other guys will talk about the line villain took, his range, his tendencies, etc. With Trooper you get attempted psychological warfare and talk about live tells. There was no talk about ranges at all. Trooper picked up a tell or two, put his opponent on a bluff and made the "sick" call.
I don't know whether Steve007 is Trooper's relative, best friend, groupie, hype man, or wife. He is definitely in love with the Troop.
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03-15-2017 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sucio44
I don't know whether Steve007 is Trooper's relative, best friend, groupie, hype man, or wife. He is definitely in love with the Troop.
I thought some people might read my post and think I was making fun of him. I wasn't, but interesting/entertaining isn't always a compliment.

I actually don't think it's that easy of a call at 1-2 and it's easy for people to be results oriented (including Trooper). But I suspect even without any tells, Trooper makes the call anyway because he calls a lot of big bets on the river and as a result would catch more people bluffing than most other people. IMO too much calling in that spot is a leak and this result will reinforce the idea he has that they bluff all the time.

Edit: Also saying he doesn't talk about ranges, lines, etc. isn't exactly a compliment either.

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Originally Posted by mrducks
Is it just me or is there something off about Trooper making a separate video about that 1 hand? How many times has he called off with middle pair on a KKxQx board on the river to a large bet and been dead wrong when his opponent rolled over a Q or K and not included it in the vlog?

I find it funny how he puts so much emphasis on this one hand when his "read" was purely some tell that the guy had. Nothing about the line taken or ranges as mentioned above. I really believe that he makes this call very often and many times finds himself getting stacked and just writes it off as running bad.
Agreed. He also never mentions the pot odds in these spots.

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03-15-2017 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I don't understand why Kraut doesn't have more subs. I recall the first video on his page being in german and so I avoided his channel for a long time thinking it was all in German, but right now there are only 2 vloggers whose videos I never miss: Trooper and PokerKraut. (I'm behind a bit on Boski's but do plan to get caught back up with his at some point too).


I was also initially confused by Kraut's video in German but since have come back and found him to be the most personable and enjoyable of the poker vloggers.

Trooper and the JJ hand video - it says much about him that has already been said and confirmed so no need to repeat.

Boski gives the poker and mtt and some poker lifestyle fix and his delivery is getting better
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03-15-2017 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I've multi-quoted squid posts on this b4 and don't know where those went but below is a post he made in 2014. Doesn't look like a prolonged downswing at all to me. Pretty sure he crushed 2015 and 2016 he was busy recreating and playing lol Florida games.



BTW, I recall in another post he stated his biggest downswing was greater than that of other pros he knows and of course downswings are always accompanied by some poor play.


Yes saw him posted that later on. I'm really surprised by this. I would figure even a very good player would have longer downswings/breakeven stretches than this. When Andrew mentioned his longest breakeven stretch was like 3 weeks, i thought... that just cannot be real etc.
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03-16-2017 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x

When Andrew mentioned his longest breakeven stretch was like 3 weeks, i thought... that just cannot be real etc.
I took it to mean his worst stretch. Three weeks of losing every single session (possibly big losses too).

A downswing/breakeven stretch can be 2 losses, a win, a big loss, small win, 3 losses --- etc. Each week not horrendous by itself, but over a couple of months, you are slowly sinking.
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03-16-2017 , 12:43 AM
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03-16-2017 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
This is a must see.
I laughed so damn hard at this video.

"I just hit Jason with chicken juice."

"I'm in the f#$ing dirt!"

Granted I was partaking in my avatar, but I got a legit 15 minutes of laughing out of Kraut's video.
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03-16-2017 , 02:28 AM
Background on The Prince in PKs vids anyone?
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03-16-2017 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Agree. This thread is just as vile and infantile as the original one was. I have a theory though.



My theory is that all people are *******s in one form or another. Most disguise it or have lesser versions of *******dness but it is on full display on the internet. The anonymity of the internet coupled with groupthink behavior of a forum like this make it okay in these childrens minds to pile on, ridicule, and nitpick anything and everything.



I could never put myself out there like the vloggers do to stand up to all this ridicule from the mouth breathing droolers who inhabit this thread. People who are so miserable in their own lives and feel the need to fling **** at others.

If you don't like the vlogs just don't watch them. Everybody on earth gains from this decision. But most would rather let their internet *******dness get to go on full display which makes them the bottom wrung of civilized society.


this thread does not even approach the level of vitriol in the OG thread fwiw. the rest i pretty much agree with
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03-16-2017 , 04:58 AM
Try Prinz Marcus von Anhalt on Google.
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03-16-2017 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
That JJ hand shows why I think Trooper has the most interesting/entertaining hand histories. Other guys will talk about the line villain took, his range, his tendencies, etc. With Trooper you get attempted psychological warfare and talk about live tells. There was no talk about ranges at all. Trooper picked up a tell or two, put his opponent on a bluff and made the "sick" call.
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I actually don't think it's that easy of a call at 1-2 and it's easy for people to be results oriented (including Trooper). But I suspect even without any tells, Trooper makes the call anyway because he calls a lot of big bets on the river and as a result would catch more people bluffing than most other people. IMO too much calling in that spot is a leak and this result will reinforce the idea he has that they bluff all the time.
His thought process is interesting. However, in this particular spot, live tells would guide my decision as well. When I heard the guy speak in the video, I wanted to snap call him. That's why I thought this was a super easy spot for Trooper. I do agree that I think Trooper hero calls way too much.

Trooper probably has decent live reads. They have to be better than his grasp of playing good fundamental poker.
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03-16-2017 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Some do. From what I've seen, most Vegas low stakes grinders tend to be pretty bad at providing a fun environment for tourists. Trooper, in particular, is very confrontational with his opponents. He feels poker is like a war and the other players at the table are his enemies. I guess it works for him though because he's made it as a Vegas pro when so many others go broke.
Vegas pro?? Ok what makes it so? He's gone busto what 2x? Gotten a job 2x? Won't study? Won't move up or is afraid to? Bad BRM!! So what does that make me with a 10k bankroll? With Good BRM? Never complains when I lose!! I never went busto?? Does this make me a VEGAS PRO?? I don't think so.
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03-16-2017 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigmagic
I am a sub of Trooper, Andrew,Kraut, Boski,PA and many others. I like that they are all a little different. Andrew makes some fishy plays and admits it, Kraut is the one that could get me in a game he hosted.

I don't get the hate, these guys all are sharing their life experience good and bad. I guess without Limon these haters need new targets.
All the other guys are not rude, lazy and narcissistic! Especially Kraut and Andrew...Speaking of Andrew wow how fast he came running almost 50,000 subs and he's killing poker and youtube. I am wondering does anyone have links on how these guys build their youtube channels? OFA do you know?

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Begging, narcissism, immaturity and fake tough guy persona.

Why is Andrew kicking his butt?


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Because Andrew is verrrry smart!! Also he can actually play poker and studies to get better.

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It's rare for villains at 1-2 to put max pressure on you in that spot. Usually when you check it down and you're ahead, they check it down unless they hit something. That's one reason why 1-2 is so easy to beat.
Totally agree with you Steve if you can't beat 1-2 you shouldn't be playing.

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PokerKrauts videos are a 1000 times better than Troopers. Its a crime he only has 3k subs....
I guess he doesn't care or isn't putting in the time to get more subs either way i don't know...what do I know lol.
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03-16-2017 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by teddtbear
Vegas pro?? Ok what makes it so? He's gone busto what 2x? Gotten a job 2x? Won't study? Won't move up or is afraid to? Bad BRM!! So what does that make me with a 10k bankroll? With Good BRM? Never complains when I lose!! I never went busto?? Does this make me a VEGAS PRO?? I don't think so.
Do you play in Vegas for a living? Do you have a baller apartment, nice car, and a beautiful woman at your side? If so, then you may be selling yourself short because you are definitely a Vegas pro too.
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03-16-2017 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Do you play in Vegas for a living? Do you have a baller apartment, nice car, and a beautiful woman at your side? If so, then you may be selling yourself short because you are definitely a Vegas pro too.
LOL I don't know what world you're living in but all that doesn't make you a pro but maybe so in your mind Peace out.
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03-16-2017 , 10:47 AM
Trooper's latest video is a must not see..absolutely nothing of interest is in there..
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03-16-2017 , 10:50 AM
i know this is super lazy of me but i haven't watched a troop vlog in prob 6 months. what happened to the kind fellow that was doing a running total on his results. that part still interests me. plz come back and update
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03-16-2017 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 8th_Street
i know this is super lazy of me but i haven't watched a troop vlog in prob 6 months. what happened to the kind fellow that was doing a running total on his results. that part still interests me. plz come back and update
hes quietly been crushing it this month, think hes up ~2k for march and also had winning months in jan and feb.
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