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03-11-2017 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
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To embed bro, just...

[youtube]k9JikOn0t-w[youtube]

...with a forward slash in front of the last "youtube"




Easy peeeezy
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03-11-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
To embed bro, just...

[youtube]k9JikOn0t-w[youtube]

...with a forward slash in front of the last "youtube"




Easy peeeezy
Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, I wasn't trying to embed. My link takes you to the point in the video that Trooper meets up with his alleged mistress.

https://youtu.be/k9JikOn0t-w?t=4m32s
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03-11-2017 , 10:51 PM
Easier to:

Alleged/possible mistress @ 4:32




No?
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03-11-2017 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Easier to:

Alleged/possible mistress @ 4:32

.......

No?
no
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03-11-2017 , 11:06 PM
New Mail Time Vid!

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03-11-2017 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
New Mail Time Vid!

anyone want to chip in on some detroit/mi mugs?> shoud i start a gofundme/patreon?
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03-12-2017 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
That 5$ donation idea was weird.

He should just say "hey guys, if you like the vlogs, consider supporting me with a $ or two on Patreon." There's really nothing wrong with that. Hundreds of YouTubers do the same.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with asking for some extra support money from his followers, but why does he always say he "hates asking for money" in addition to asking for money.

And if he plays a $125 tournament and receives 400 x $5, what will happen to the $1875?
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03-12-2017 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
That 5$ donation idea was weird.

He should just say "hey guys, if you like the vlogs, consider supporting me with a $ or two on Patreon." There's really nothing wrong with that. Hundreds of YouTubers do the same.
People will accuse him of begging for money again if he does that and will act like he is doing something that is very wrong.

Looks like he just reached 25k subscribers.



And Molly just made this comment:

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John White I have neither the time nor the desire to have anyone on the side. Tim is the one and only.

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03-12-2017 , 09:29 AM
I don't like asking for money but you can send money to me
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03-12-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
People will accuse him of begging for money again if he does that and will act like he is doing something that is very wrong.
Yeah I could see this being a problem with poker community.
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03-12-2017 , 03:21 PM
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03-12-2017 , 04:15 PM
People mention him getting 10% of subs to pay but I think the conversion rate will be more like 1-3% of subs will actually pay. Probably closer to 1%. On 25K people, 1% is still 250 people which is pretty impressive considering the quality of his content.
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03-12-2017 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
People mention him getting 10% of subs to pay but I think the conversion rate will be more like 1-3% of subs will actually pay. Probably closer to 1%. On 25K people, 1% is still 250 people which is pretty impressive considering the quality of his content.
Agreed, except I'd use the average view count as the base rather than number of subscribers.
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03-12-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WitchesCastle
I don't like asking for money but you can send money to me
People were frustrated with him in the past before he started the Patreon account. They were begging him to take money and saying he should do it because other people do it, said he works hard on the vlog so he deserves it, said they were more than willing to pay for the "entertainment,", etc. People were sending him $20 bills in the mail and going up to him and sticking money in his face, pushing for him to accept it.

I think he waited too long to start the Patreon account. He should have started it sooner to make those people happy.
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03-12-2017 , 08:08 PM
Neeme closing in on 50k subs.

You don't see him asking for $2 donations lol.

Trooper needs to get a job or play more poker. His exclusive boring videos are not going to take him to the YouTube promise land. He needs to focus on more interesting content only.
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03-12-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
Neeme closing in on 50k subs.

You don't see him asking for $2 donations lol.

Trooper needs to get a job or play more poker. His exclusive boring videos are not going to take him to the YouTube promise land. He needs to focus on more interesting content only.
that's pretty impressive given how long (short) he has been making videos
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03-12-2017 , 08:35 PM
Andrews vlog is great when it is not 85% hand histories. Tend to skip thru 18 minutes of hands and watch the favorable 3 minutes
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03-12-2017 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dNAssume
Andrews vlog is great when it is not 85% hand histories. Tend to skip thru 18 minutes of hands and watch the favorable 3 minutes
I generally hate hand history review on the forums, etc, but I actually watch neeme's entire vlog, even the hh reviews.
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03-12-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
Neeme closing in on 50k subs.

You don't see him asking for $2 donations lol.

Trooper needs to get a job or play more poker. His exclusive boring videos are not going to take him to the YouTube promise land. He needs to focus on more interesting content only.
Andrew his last vlog was gold again. This will generate some extra players for the Wynn for sure! I definately would love to play there again this year.
I think Troop is happy with his current life. A job or more poker will not make him more happy and his goal of making a vlog every day is working out for him. Some of his followers do not mind if the vlogs get repetitive and just like to see him live his life every day (incuding all the mailtimes).
I, like most of 2p2 followers, are more poker minded, but his vlog is more a social vlog now and we have to accept this.
The "I have a poker dream" Tim has left us a long time ago :-(
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03-12-2017 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dNAssume
Andrews vlog is great when it is not 85% hand histories. Tend to skip thru 18 minutes of hands and watch the favorable 3 minutes
The hand histories are my favorite part. To each his own.
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03-12-2017 , 09:38 PM
The hand histories in the Andrew videos are okay but I don't get that excited over watching that stuff. I watch some of his stuff but usually I'd rather watch a video on a training site. People complain about Trooper doing the same thing all the time but Andrew videos are often just "here's hand #1, and now lets talk about hand #2, here's hand #3, etc." Obviously people are enjoying his videos though so I guess he should stick with what's working.


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Originally Posted by surfinillini
Neeme closing in on 50k subs.

You don't see him asking for $2 donations lol.

Trooper needs to get a job or play more poker. His exclusive boring videos are not going to take him to the YouTube promise land. He needs to focus on more interesting content only.
It's interesting that people aren't upset with Andrew over the fact he hasn't been trying to get donations. People REALLY wanted to give Trooper money before he started the Patreon account (and still want to give him money because he still is getting money). Trooper has probably gotten close to $3k now in donations since the summer.

Why were people so eager to give Trooper money, but don't seem as eager to give Andrew money?

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03-12-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
The hand histories in the Andrew videos are okay but I don't get that excited over watching that stuff. I watch some of his stuff but usually I'd rather watch a video on a training site. People complain about Trooper doing the same thing all the time but Andrew videos are often just "here's hand #1, and now lets talk about hand #2, here's hand #3, etc." Obviously people are enjoying his videos though so I guess he should stick with what's working.
I disagree Steve. Andrew travels more than once a year. He's creative with his camera shots/editing and brings a different type of cinematography via aerial drones, go pros, etc...
He's much more of a knowledge seeker than the OG when it comes to vlogging. I appreciate his willingness to improve and not be content with one formula and merely sticking with that.
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03-12-2017 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
I think he waited too long to start the Patreon account. He should have started it sooner to make those people happy.
Agreed. I also think he should be charging $5 rather than $2 for exclusive Trooper content. Most people will pay $0 but of the people that would pay $2 for content, most would pay $5. The cost is negligible but the difference in revenue for Trooper could be huge.

Also, how does Trooper not have an online store full of Trooper merchandise? I'm sure lots of fans would buy Trooper mugs. I'd buy one of those Trooper refrigerator magnets that someone sent him in the mail.

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Neeme closing in on 50k subs.

You don't see him asking for $2 donations lol.
Neeme gets more subs but Trooper makes more money from social media.

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Originally Posted by MartaGdynia
The "I have a poker dream" Tim has left us a long time ago :-(
Trooper doesn't have a dream anymore because now he's living the dream. I can understand how some people can be frustrated because sometimes the journey can be more interesting than the destination. Trooper struggling to make ends meet was half the fun.
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03-12-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Neeme gets more subs but Trooper makes more money from social media.
that's because making money is not Andrew's reason for doing youtube. If you told Andrew he would never make one penny from doing youtube, he would continue putting out videos. You can't say the same for Trooper.
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03-12-2017 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MartaGdynia
Andrew his last vlog was gold again. This will generate some extra players for the Wynn for sure! I definately would love to play there again this year.
I think Troop is happy with his current life. A job or more poker will not make him more happy and his goal of making a vlog every day is working out for him. Some of his followers do not mind if the vlogs get repetitive and just like to see him live his life every day (incuding all the mailtimes).
I, like most of 2p2 followers, are more poker minded, but his vlog is more a social vlog now and we have to accept this.
The "I have a poker dream" Tim has left us a long time ago :-(
The "poker dream" Trooper is definitely long gone. We now have the "YouTube dream" Trooper which in many ways is the same thing.

While Trooper found a small groove in 1/2 nl games and sat on his hands for years in terms of improving his game and now finds himself just catching up to the current state of the game, which kept evolving while he sat and didn't study to improve. He was able to squeak out a minimum profit to just get by. The same is happening with YouTube Trooper. He built up a small channel and is now content on sitting on it and just churning out the same content (without improving or putting time/energy into advancing his product) for just enough money to supplement his 20 hour a week poler hobby.

I give him credit for creating multiple sources of income but if he focused on just one, he could really get it bigger than half ass-ing both.

I also like him trying to monetize his vlog but his method and timing is horrible. He's trying to cash in for a few grand now instead of building a better brand and going for a bigger score down the road. Once he sells out, it's possible the vlog will take a big hit and will begin to decline in growth rate.

His method is stupid too. Exclusive content? Lol, he has trouble filling his current daily vlog with content. Where will he get anything new if he hasn't gotten it in 1-2 years already. His 2nd option of the tourney lottery is probably illegal but more so is a poorly covered attempt at asking people to give X amount while getting back less than 5% in expected value in return. First, he's not gonna win or top 5 an Aria tourney anytime soon plus he's gonna ask for a few grand to buy into a $150 tourney. It's like Eskimo Clarke selling over 100% of himself and then tanking the tourney to keep the overlay on what he sold. His non mathematical/poker knowledgable YouTube fans probably don't see the disconnect in his ideas.

He's got to get some better business minded friends to help guide him better.
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