Trooper Thursday has been running for well over 4 years. How long do you think it will take the Westgate to realize it is a failure?

Trooper Thursday from 3 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1LaThb7Kps

Mike Matusow toward the end at the table and Trooper has his dried up wrinkled hand covering up the view to the end where Mike is most of the time. Awesome. lol

ZERO chance he gets that. ZERO. Westgate would be morons to give him that.


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I heard Trooper actually paid Westgate to run the games because of all the money he gets from signing autographs.

Let's get conservative and assume he only makes half of your estimate. That means he's at $1,000 to $3,000 per month. Make that $2,000 per month from Trooper Thursdays.

Let's say he makes $20 per video and produces 20 videos per month. That's $400 from Youtube per month.

Coffee is recurring income because people tend to re-order if they like. Maybe, 30% stay for a year and order 3 times per year. Let' guess that he makes $300 per month in coffee profits from new customers and repeats.

Merchandise sales: Let's guess it is $700 per month profits.

So far, we have Trooper at $3,600 per month.

It is a fact that Trooper is an above breakeven player but not capable of making a living from the game. But he definitely has beaten rake plus some ever since he moved to Vegas. Let's put his monthly poker income at $300 per month.

Trooper makes $4,000 per month conservatively. $48,000 per year. Poker dealers in Vegas make a low of 15k and a high of 40k per year with an average of 25k.

A high of 40k? Lol ok

Trooper desperately wants to own all the "haters." Don't you think if he had some info like tons of great sales to own the "haters" he would let us know?

Trooper Thursday has been doing at least 2 tables every week since I've started watching his vlog again.

His merch gets hand delivered. That alone is worth the price.

A dealer told me he made $80k in Vegas. I think that was probably a high year, not sure. I know in Texas they can make that kind of money but obviously would expect to make less in Vegas.

If things don’t work out for Pman, and if people give him advice and he does things his way (which is up to him anyway btw, not us), is there really anything we can do about it? A bunch of us repeatedly gave advice to Trooper. He did things his way instead.

Pman was able to get together enough money to be able to do this. Trooper had less money when he came to Vegas. But you are right Trooper put in way more hours. I think it was very rare for a fire to be lit under his ass though. He just got a job when he went broke, similar up what Pman is likely to do.

ibelieveyouoweme$80k wasn’t even willing to get a job in Vegas even when he was stressed and desperate except for some occasional dealing. He probably would have been fine if he just grinded out a low paying job.

Hand delivered merch on the strip is one of the most genius moves ever by Trooper.

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Pman struggles to play 3 hour sessions. What makes you think he can grind out a low paying job?

Dream Crusher, why are you so rude to me? Your comments are snarky and annoying. Could you wish to watch me fail quietly?

Pman, don't feed a troll.

There is no way Trooper makes only 200 bucks a month from his vlog. No way. Absolutely no way. While that site appears to have some aura of credibility, I just don't believe those numbers. The dude has got to make more than that. I would think, on the basis of common sense and just real life necessity, Trooper would not be doing his vlog every day for such little money. I would have to guess that on the very bottom end -- and I do mean the lowest possible number -- that Trooper gets at least 800 a month. No other number would make it worthwhile. It just isn't possible. (Unless there are two other possibilities, neither of which I buy either: [1] Trooper is just the dumbest guy on the planet, which I don't believe but some of the super haters seem to believe, or [2] it could be that YT pays him that low, but his side income from his other ventures, justifies the low YT pay.)

Also, I know the discussion of Trooper's time making his vlogs has died down, but I still firmly believe he spends very little time making his vlogs, maybe 15-20 minutes aside from actual film time and download/upload time. Although here lately, Trooper has been raising his editing game to a less monotonous level, so he has been responding to the criticism here. Good job, Trooper; no offense, but I just think you've mastered vlog editing to such a degree it only takes a few minutes to do. And while I would put money on it, I'd like to be proven wrong.

The data may be old, but what I found in a google search is that the max rake is $5. I highly doubt they are averaging max rake per pot with guys like OMC playing in the games. I would be hard pressed to believe they are taking more than $3 on average.

I haven't watched his vlogs of late either, but for a while many times they were getting 1 table and the game would break after 4 or so hours. Many times they were combining with the 1/2 game that was running separately from his games. Maybe now they are getting some more tables, but I can't imagine they are running 2 tables for very long. I know there was a trip report not too long ago where two guys tried to play with Trooper and were stuck on a secondary table for a while. Don't think they played a massive amount of time and not sure if they were considered part of the Trooper Thursday crew or not.

So, even if they run 2 tables for some amount of time I can't see where a table is raking in more than $100/hr. If he admittedly didn't get 50% and is getting 35-40%, then he is making $35-40 an hour. I can't imagine they are getting more than 10 total hours of play at his tables on an average Thursday, so maybe he is making $350-400, $500ish on a busy day. He was also making much less than that for a most of the year too. Vegas is busy now, so he is probably doing the top end of that, but come the dead times of the year I would be surprised if he makes more than $200.

I mean, it is a good gig regardless as he is making extra money for just playing and promoting, but there is no way he is making upwards of $1,500 on any day.

I caught that video before it was removed. And no, he did not "mock" the suicidal guy. Unless you define "mocking" as taking the time out of his day to set up a camera and try to film the event from a distance while remarking on the situation. Most people would call that just reporting on the situation or being a bit too nosy about a possibly deadly episode, but Trooper did not mock the guy and you know that. IIRC, I believe Trooper even had some positive words for the guy saying he hoped he get the help he needed if he was a victim of some mental health breakdown.

Exactly. Thanks for pointing that out. The super haters go out of their way never to say anything positive about Trooper, like him being the true OG of the poker vlogger era or him constantly putting out content for all of us to enjoy. It just shows how truly negative people can be. I'm the same, I will point what I think Trooper does wrong -- but I like his vlog and have enjoyed for a long time and will defend him where I think he is getting unjustifiably dumped on.

The vlog does not need to have an amazing ROI for it to be +EV to create, DUCY?

Without the vlog, Trooper (or anyone in his position) fades into obscurity and is no longer "out there" in the arena of public consumption. The vlog is the baseline minimum to continue doing his thing; even if it had a negative ROI it would still be necessary in order to keep hustling opportunities and making the other initiatives profitable.

We better get in on this before it closes out.

This is just getting sad. Really hope we don't see him with a cardboard sign at a corner one day.

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No takers yet.

Graph related for prospective investors.

Geez, that's just...wow.
You know, these tourneys might last more than 90 min.

Whos graph is that?