Can we use cancel culture to cancel Johnnie Vibes?

By the way, Olga said she quit her day job to run her own influencer marketing company, Vibes Creative. Well that company doesn't appear to exist. Even the website vibescreative.com just redirects to johnnievibes.com.

2000 hours is a lot live. It's always puzzling to me when a player post their rates with 5000 hours and someone come along with the default "not enough sample hours" or "sample size too small" to determine. If I were forced to back a player with 5000 hours, I rather choose one from a group of winning players vs a group of losing players.

I also hear the "you need 1 million hands" to know your true rate. Your rates changes over time. A rate at 10k is different from a rate of 100k which is different from one with 1million hands which might be different from one with 10 million hands. Rates are fluid. It's never set in stone at certain number of hands because a player's skill level changes over time. The opponents skills change over time. The game changes over time. The overall economy affect the poker economy over time.

If a player has only 2000 hours but he is an analytical, smart, and hardworking, I can tell that he's a winning player. I don't need 5 million hands to determine that.

I agree with alot of what you say in that you can just talk to someone and see their thought process to determine if they are a winner in the game or not. Just saying it is possible that someone with a 7bb win rate over 5k hours could actually be a 4bb winner or a 12bb winner, as variance can be brutal over a smallish sample. As you said too, playing 2k hours between 4 and 5 years ago can mean very little in today's environment. Games change, players change, etc... When the local casino opened up here 7 or 8 years ago I was winning at an insane hourly despite being much worse than I am now. It was new and people that had no idea what they were doing were playing and dumping money. They went broke and or stopped playing and games gradually get a little tougher as less fish are in the game. The new fish are the guys that were breakeven or small winners in those games.

As for varience, in my instance I played 3 pots where 250-300bb each went in on the flop in a year where I had a set vs a naked overpair (no gutter, monotone board with A of suit, etc...) and I lost all of them. I play in a 100bb buyin cap game, so getting that deep, flopping a set and getting an over pair to put in that much just doesn't happen often. I need to win the next 27 times it happens to be running at EV, which won't happen, and if it does, it may take 5-10 years of grinding for that to happen.

Have no idea how you came to that conclusion because I just did a simple search of licensed business entities on the Nevada Secretary of State Business Portal and up popped the following:

Entity Name: Vibes Creative LLC
Entity Type: Domestic Limited-Liability Company (86)
Formation Date: 11/04/2019
Entity Number: E2663112019-7
NV Business ID: NV20191628138
Entity Status: Active
Termination Date: Perpetual
Annual Report Due Date: 11/30/2021

Officer Information
Managing Member Johnnie Moreno
Managing Member Olga Moreno

Correct. It has become fashionable to mis-use statistics to hide the fact that one is a loser (or not much of a winner) by incorrectly claiming variance.

A 10bb/100 winner with 40BB/100 SD playing 40 hours/week, 30 hands per hour will occasionally have a down month - one every couple of years. They will very rarely have a down 2 months. They almost never will have 3 down months - typically zero such periods in a career.

tough life

Their bottom is still reasonably a dream scenario for many people/families. How out of touch from reality, or unaware does someone have to be, when there are literally people struggling to make meets end working $10/hr wage jobs.

Everything is in relation to each other. When my lower stake friends are in discord, I generally refer to things in buy-ins. So even if I'm up like $4K for the day, I say oh "that's X buy-ins. You're technically doing better than me with your $500 up" etc. And I mean this in an honest way.

Feels condescending to say, $50/hr is bottom of win rate, I'm flat out broke, to the general population. Imo.

-- Edit -- also forgot to mention the fact that he had enough coins (which is an asset) where he's nice and comfy since it's sky rocketed.

Dumb question: If Johnny Vibes and his wife are so wealthy, why have they been "broke".

Why not buy an RV an live the good life to travel?

Does anyone remember the good 'ole days, when all you had to do was nut-peddle/set-mine, never bluff to make variance-free $$?

Ask them. I only watched a handful of his vlogs but he was supposedly making $150 p/h playing poker and his wife worked full time until 2019. Per JV, when she quit her job they had a mountain of debt. It doesn't add up.

I had to turn off the video after the first minute or so. I don't want to get into a negative "vibe" so I will just say I can't handle them unless its pure poker analysis.

agreed. you reach a point when you're tired that you don't even realize how tired you are. then when you finally get some sleep you realize how were weren't even really thinking. there's no point in forcing hours when you're exhaused in a run of the mill game. i might play super tired on auto pilot 2-3 times a year - i know i'm not playing that well but it's when the game is unreal good with savages punting where auto pilot still makes a lot of money.

I think Vibes is a good Poker player and a likeable enough guy. And his wife Olga seems nice enough too.
It seems to me that they just lived a more lavish lifestyle than they could afford.
Oh, and by the way, I agree that Olga is an influencer. She influences me every time I see her.

Sorry Johnie, can't help myself.

I can't answer for them, but I'd consider traveling in an RV to be pure hell. Definitely not living "the good life" for me.

Olga just has that worn out look... Er vibe to her, I could imagine her having scales, but not the reptilian kind just the tired and worn out kind, like rubbing your hands along an old towel

Couldn't get past first minute either, but I'm clearly biased as I hate his moniker, very punchable imo and I'll never be able to look past the fact he chose "vibes" as his mom de guerre

My grandmother used to always call it living with champagne taste on a beer drinkers salary.

It doesn't really matter what you make as long as you spend more. I know plenty of people that are teachers and live a very happy life with no worries of money and I know several people that work at the executive level in finance that are seemingly living paycheck to paycheck and any small change in their budget due to an unexpected expense throws a wrench into all their plans.

Surprised someone in her generation didn't use the far more common racially inspired version of that

My hat is off to her

I am in no way defending Vibes, who has said and done his share of douchey things -- but I believe the dire context of the "100 hours to make $5000" comment was presented alongside the fact that they were racking up $20k-40k in credit card bills every month, and he was used to paying off 50-100% of their debt each month in winnings from big games. So, when the size of the games dried up, suddenly their habit of living above their means to the degree that had become usual for them, was piling them into a terrifying mountain of debt with no way to "fix" it monthly with a trip to the casino.

this is all true but 600 hours a year really isn't much.

i posted this in a different thread but in my last 5,000 hours live i've had THREE separate 500 hour break even stretches while still having a really high win rate overall.This is almost all plo fwiw .I also had a 500 hour streak where I averaged almost 350 dollars an hour playing 5/5-10/25 plo (and not that much 10/25).Variance live is insane.

While obviously the long break even streaks can be frustrating, especially since a lot of that time is just getting your teeth kicked in then spending weeks digging out of it (playing 50 ten hour break even sessions would be way easier) how one handles such things is what matters in the end. if you're gonna take running bad and make it way worse by playing bad just quit poker. I think it also helped mentally that i never started off a calendar year breaking even for so long. So i wasn't in like late april/early may having broken even for the year(which could easily happen) make my year feel like a total waste of time.

Was there another context different than this one?

No RV parking at the Ritz-Carlton.

Around 2013, I tried not bluffing at all (other than semibluffs). I lasted for like 2 hrs before I realized it's just not possible.

my grandfather says the same thing. maybe it's an old timey expression.
i mean he said he made something like 100k a year and goes out and buys a new tesla. not exactly expert money management.

i didn't watch this recent video but if they were really spending 20-40k a month they're dumber than JV is douchey.

as bad as the average american is with money poker players are even worse.someone can think they're way better than they are based on running hot for a few months and spend like drunken sailors thinking it won't end. then when it does end they're screwed.

I don't know what would motivate someone to post something like this.

Variance in live PLO sounds insane. In low stakes NL, not so much. I struggle to have back to back losing sessions.

I guess it would be that, if you don't have massive bills, complaining about making $50/hr is inexcusably tone-deaf.