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02-22-2019 , 03:10 PM
Let’s Chase,

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Let’s take a line from the Nima thread and all just move forward and put this all behind us. One thing led to another but now the situation is resolved.
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02-22-2019 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Let’s Chase,

OMG nut low wall of text

Let’s take a line from the Nima thread and all just move forward and put this all behind us. One thing led to another but now the situation is resolved.
He's gotta be Trooper, right?
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02-22-2019 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alan33
Two things need to be considered about the Boski situation:

(1) Did he knowingly visit Rio's cage again on 7-14 to attempt a second cash-out for the tag-team?

and if not

(2) When he was paid again on 7-14 did he realize it was a mistake?

As he stated, he'll sometimes not hit the cage right away and come back later (possibly with other event cashes). But unless he's cashing-out a large amount for other tourneys on 7-14, hard to believe he would not realize the overpay.

The "moral dilemma" doesn't apply due to consequences being attached to not paying it back. Not only could Harrah's ban him, they could also sue him if he's not compliant in their request (that possibly was implied to him). His decision was based on consequences rather than doing the right thing. His decision was also based on what future value (financial or otherwise) he would get from making the "right" decision.

I'm more curious about the circumstances surrounding the 7-14 cage visit/revisit rather than his moral compass based on casinos being "evil" and him sticking it to them.
He only had 3 Rio cashes last summer and he spent vlog time either showing or at least talking about the Colossus and 888 cashes - this was the only other cash and the only significant one. There’s zero chance wasn’t sure if he’d missed a cash or not. This isn’t close.
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02-22-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
He's gotta be Trooper, right?
Absolutely not.

IMO trooper is even less likable.

He tries to come across as this boss man tough guy when in reality he is a DYEL doughy 40 something who dresses like a 14 year old.

He has one of the most unlikable and irritating personalities this side of Jussie Smullet.
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02-22-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsChaseTheDream
I feel like I am living in the twilgiht zone here.

Let me preface this by saying that I believe Boski to basically be a good guy. Likable.

But he has some 'holes' in his personality that you really start to see when not edited out of his videos. You start to see the real person and not the person that they want you to see.

It started with the "I won first place" video when he really didn't. I thought that was disingenuous and just fake. But whatever.

And now this. This reminds me so much of the Jussie Smullet situation. A person lying, we all know he is lying, and yet the person still stays with the lies.

No one can tell me that Jeff did not know EXACTLY what he was doing. This guy doesn't make millions. He would know if an extra $5000 showed up in his account. Hell even if I was worth millions I would know if that showed up.

CMON.

Next lie. And to me a really big one. He knew the $5000 showed up in his account because he PHYSICALLY had to go to the casino and present the cashier with the payout card. So he did it once. And said to himself "hmmmmmm, they never took the card back. I wonder if I could go back in a few days and get paid again".

Sure enough...he did just that. So for him to say that he doesn't remember getting the $5 K when he HAD TO BE THEIR PHYSICALLY TO GET THE CASH? So sad. And shame on him for thinking people would believe it.

He blatantly ripped a business off. That is not moral. That is not being a man. That is....being a degenerate gambler living in Vegas.


Further, the ONLY reason he paid the money back was because he wanted to play in WSOP events this summer. He didn't feel morally obligated to pay it back at all.

IMO his true colors were shown. He is a person with some serious serious flaws in his personality.
You're making a lot of assumptions of a guy you've never met. We only see in the vlogs what these guys allow us to see.

It would have been really really easy for Boski to not mention this whole fiasco in his vlogs, then literally nobody would ever know about it. Are there some weird things about his account, given that it seems like he had to go to the cage twice to get paid out? Sure.

According to Boski: "They said I didn't get paid for my tag team cash, so I got paid cash. I didn't think it was possible for the computer system to pay me twice for the same cash."

If it were me and I tried swindling a casino, I wouldn't put it in a vlog for thousands to see. That is why I give Boski the benefit of the doubt.
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02-22-2019 , 03:57 PM
I have no idea if Jeff knew or not. All I know is that if Jeff tried to freeroll the casino, thats A ok to me.
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02-22-2019 , 04:08 PM
Different entities have different moral values assigned to them. It kinda reminds me of Clerks and the scene with the contractor. Where Randall talks about all the innocent independent contractors dying on the death star. And the contractor in the store tells him he also considers his morals when doing a job. One might think that a paying contractor job is always just a job, but who your dealing with can influence your decisions.

Just like how any other business you give the money back, but when it comes to the Casino, your moral compass can move based on how that business operates. And although legal, a lot of people think casinos operate under immoral standards.
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02-22-2019 , 04:39 PM
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You created a new username just to make these posts?
+1. Don't understand why people are even bothering to debate boski's "morals" though, he's continued to endorse ACR despite everything that came out
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02-22-2019 , 04:59 PM
I would never argue with a casino trying to give me money. And yes that makes my morals less than perfect. Boski played it just right, take the money, and pay it back if they realize their mistake.

Also as a business owner, if I make a mistake, it’s on me to catch it, not my customers. I would appreciate the honesty, but wouldn’t expect it. Now if they claim I didn’t make a mistake, once I realize my error, they are a scum bag who I would no longer do business with.
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02-22-2019 , 05:07 PM
Everyone’s opinion is based on whether they like the person or not. Shouldn’t it be based on the action?

I like him therefore he is just!!!

If everyone in this thread met these vloggers in person they wouldn’t be putting some of these guys on pedestals.

If Trooper pulled this **** there would cries for a televised execution.


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02-22-2019 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HailtotheRedskins

If Trooper pulled this **** there would cries for a televised execution.
This 100 thousand bazillion percent.

I like Boski, but I have to admit, this whole story just sounds... strange. This isn't some small $50 prize that might easily have been forgotten about.

I don't know of many people who are so wealthy that they aren't sure if they were overpaid an extra $5k or not. Maybe Boski is one of those people, I dunno.
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02-22-2019 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HailtotheRedskins
Everyone’s opinion is based on whether they like the person or not. Shouldn’t it be based on the action?

I like him therefore he is just!!!

If everyone in this thread met these vloggers in person they wouldn’t be putting some of these guys on pedestals.

If Trooper pulled this **** there would cries for a televised execution.


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Well i wouldnt.
It is that supermoral standards holier than jesus stuff that grinds my gears. It is just plain ridiculous.
Ask 100 people on the street if they would report an error of a company for thousands of dollars. Whole different story if he would have refused to pay the money back after they realized THEIR mistake.
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02-22-2019 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenophon
You're making a lot of assumptions of a guy you've never met.
And as we all know assumptions can GTFO and while we're at it LetsChaseTheDream can GTFO too. Bye.
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02-22-2019 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
I can't believe not paying was even a consideration. If I had been notified that I had been paid an extra $5k, and then confirmed by going through my records that it had in fact occurred (which I'm sure that you did as well), then I would have paid it back immediately even if I had never planned on visiting a Harrah's property again.

I sure hope that you were kidding with this whole should-I-keep-it-or-should-I-pay-it-back "dilemma," and that was just a skit for your vlog.
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A person or organization/company makes an error and sends you $$ that (after confirming) isn't something you're owed, and you don't send it back? I scanned all the posts about examples of sandwich shops and how casinos are scam artists and evil....all just moving the eye off the question: money comes to you in error, do you pay it back?

These situations do happen:
1. insurance companies accidentally credit someone else's payment to a wrong account
2. bank may make an error in a deposit
3. you're collecting funds for a tailgate with some friends and someone venmo's you twice

You just take that $$ and say "ha, your mistake so sad/too bad"? If situation is reversed and you are overcharged or make a mistake, you just say oh well and not expect it to be made right?

Could be a bunch of trolling, but sad state of society if many actually believe $$ shouldn't be returned.
Why did you quote my post when you made your comment? Did you somehow misread what I wrote?

Anyone who receives money in error - from any person or entity - and doesn't return it immediately (or as soon as they become aware of the error), is a morally bankrupt scumbag.
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02-22-2019 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
And as we all know assumptions can GTFO and while we're at it LetsChaseTheDream can GTFO too. Bye.
So this guy 27 off suit apparently doesn't like what I am saying about Boski because he said if I post here again he is banning me. For what? I don't know.

haha You really do live and breathe this forum don't you??


You are so welcoming and kind. Thank you.

How old are you? 12?

I see you have been here since 2004. Almost 30,000 posts in 15 years. 2000 a year. Almost 7 per day, every day, for 15 years.

That is dedication!! Or you don't have a life. I think the latter rather than the former.

Here is a pro tip...leave your moms basement and stop posting on a forum every day and pretending to be a forum nazi.

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The above was only the half of Chase's moronic posting. The rest of his garbage is gone.

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02-22-2019 , 06:02 PM
Hendon shows three cashes for 2018 WSOP
$2734 for Event #7 (Colossus)
$4938 for Event #55 (Tag Team)
$1333 for Event #62 (Crazy Eights)

The printout that Boski displays does not show a payout for Event #7.

Could that be part of the mixup?
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02-22-2019 , 06:36 PM
Hey Chase, 27 issued a temp ban. I'm making it permanent. Buh bye!
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02-22-2019 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV

Anyone who receives money in error - from any person or entity - and doesn't return it immediately (or as soon as they become aware of the error), is a morally bankrupt scumbag.
Didn't know life was so black and white. Only a sith deals in absolutes.
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02-22-2019 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsChaseTheDream
So this guy 27 off suit apparently doesn't like what I am saying about Boski because he said if I post here again he is banning me. For what? I don't know.

haha You really do live and breathe this forum don't you??


You are so welcoming and kind. Thank you.

How old are you? 12?

I see you have been here since 2004. Almost 30,000 posts in 15 years. 2000 a year. Almost 7 per day, every day, for 15 years.

That is dedication!! Or you don't have a life. I think the latter rather than the former.

Here is a pro tip...leave your moms basement and stop posting on a forum every day and pretending to be a forum nazi.
Well, you made 6 posts in the matter of a couple hours. And that is with only this ID. Who knows how many IDs you have and how many message boards you frequent. I guess we should assume the same about you. A no-life having virgin living in mommy's basement.
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02-22-2019 , 06:57 PM
The question of "If a company mistakenly gives you money should you return it?" can only create a fiery lengthy debate on a poker forum filled with poker players. LOL Most of you deserve to be locked in a room with a fellow poker player, Howard Lederer, and forced to listen to his explanation of how the money in your account isn't actually your money. Then frog marched to a computer and forced to play poker online heads up with Russ Hamilton the 1994 winner of the World Series of Poker. When released, maybe listen to a couple of poker players I will not mention hit you up for a loan. Sad.
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02-22-2019 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyTazer
Didn't know life was so black and white. Only a sith deals in absolutes.


Obviously you’re one of his stated scumbags
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02-22-2019 , 07:15 PM
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The question of "If a company mistakenly gives you money should you return it?" can only create a fiery lengthy debate on a poker forum filled with poker players. LOL Most of you deserve to be locked in a room with a fellow poker player, Howard Lederer, and forced to listen to his explanation of how the money in your account isn't actually your money. Then frog marched to a computer and forced to play poker online heads up with Russ Hamilton the 1994 winner of the World Series of Poker. When released, maybe listen to a couple of poker players I will not mention hit you up for a loan. Sad.

I think the answer to "_Should_ you return the money?" is black and white. Yes, you should. You 1) have money that was given to you in error, and 2) you know of the error and who made it. Yes, obviously you _should_ return the money. It's not yours. It's someone else's.

That said, I can understand how there can be a debate about whether to actually return the money. If a casino overpaid me, I likely wouldn't return it unless forced to. It's not the right thing to do, but I can probably try to rationalize it to myself so that I don't feel like such a scumbag. Still, I can recognize that I'm not doing the right thing. And so obviously I couldn't fault someone else for not returning casino errors as well.

What I don't understand are the people ITT who think that not only should you not return the money, but that _IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO_ to not return it. Like, wtf? I'm speechless - that there are actually people out there with this mentality is frightening.
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02-22-2019 , 07:20 PM
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That said, I can understand how there can be a debate about whether to actually return the money. If a casino overpaid me, I likely wouldn't return it unless forced to. It's not the right thing to do, but I can probably try to rationalize it to myself so that I don't feel like such a scumbag. Still, I can recognize that I'm not doing the right thing.
Exactly that is the point, 90 out of 100 people would keep the money. Calling someone a scumbag to not return 5k dollars to a billion dollar company by their own willing a scumbag is just grotesque.

And the "doing the right thing" reminds me of a 4th grader, recounting the points on a math test and noticing he should have gotten a worse grade. Yeah would have been the right thing but people are judgeamental about absolute miniscule **** to ride the moral highhorse.

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02-22-2019 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsChaseTheDream
Absolutely not.

IMO trooper is even less likable.

He tries to come across as this boss man tough guy when in reality he is a DYEL doughy 40 something who dresses like a 14 year old.

He has one of the most unlikable and irritating personalities this side of Jussie Smullet.
Well he went out in a blaze of glory didn't he?
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02-22-2019 , 08:07 PM
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Exactly that is the point, 90 out of 100 people would keep the money. Calling someone a scumbag to not return 5k dollars to a billion dollar company by their own willing a scumbag is just grotesque.

And the "doing the right thing" reminds me of a 4th grader, recounting the points on a math test and noticing he should have gotten a worse grade. Yeah would have been the right thing but people are judgeamental about absolute miniscule **** to ride the moral highhorse.

I think the issue with this Boski thing isn't that people are getting on him for being reluctant to give back the 5k, it's for looking like he was intentionally trying to obfuscate the situation and exactly what happened.

If Boski had just said something like "So last year, Rio paid me twice for the same event. I was hoping they wouldn't notice, but today they told me I'd be banned from the property until I paid back the extra. Oh well, guess they caught it!" and then paid back the money, I don't think many people would have said much about it. I know I certainly wouldn't have.
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