My last post on the subject.

If the Trooper did the same thing, finished top 4, got offered a deal, and then made a video claiming he had won?

You guys would be all over him for attention w horing.

But because it is Boski?

It's a love fest.

I mean... I don't agree at all with your premise, but I'm willing to play along for the sake of argument.

If someone I'm friendly with accidentally rear-ends my car, I'm not going to be nearly as upset as when a total stranger or my enemy does it. That's not hypocritical, DUCY?

Boski has engendered a ton of goodwill by cranking out top-tier content and engaging with fans for a long time. Trooper has constantly antagonized everyone including his own viewers and lost the benefit of the doubt despite starting off as the darling of 2+2. People's actions are framed by context.

That said, I don't think anyone else really cares about the semantics of Boski's win. Just happy for him to keep the heater going.

RR & 27,

LVL def needs a containment thread for people who post poorly like blackballed and dasitmane etc etc

Again 100% incorrect because the Hendon Mob list Jeff as #1

First place, the last finisher.

All different terms for WINNER

You ****ing putz, go sit in the corner until you’re called upon


“It’s about Jeff not winning but saying he won”

“He officially won though”

“I mean it’s about how mean people would be to trooper in the same spot”

“Not if he officially won just like Jeff did”

“No, but...”

Go away now loser you’re a first class idiot and got exposed for it in real time while you were just trying to be negative towards Boski - falsely claiming it’s only because people would be treating Trooper just like you’re treating Boski.

GTFO of here poster like you are what ruining this thread and other sub forums

I'm sure Jeff appreciates the man love you so obviously have for him.

The difference is, if Trooper would have been in the same situation he would have done it totally different. He would have complained and whined about chopping and said something along the lines of "I could have gotten 1st place outright I was just tired of playing so I decided to chop"

Boski is a good natured guy, that's why everyone likes him

Trooper is a grumpy old man who thinks he's owed something in poker and wines when it doesn't happen

It's not that difficult to figure out

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Quoting to enjoy after you eat a ban.

I fear I can’t imagine the horrific sexual atrocities your parents allowed other adults to do to you in order for you to have such a limited humor base that’s so finely focused on homosexuality.

However, as soon as you remove the Clergy-members balls from your chin and wipe off your lips I’ll be happy to tell you all about my wife and our first child who’s on the way and explain to you how a man has a relationship with a women and where babies come from.

Why do people think that vloggers with different personalities should be treated exactly the same?

Also, not a fan of these spoilers when Boski does well.

This has been discussed so many times in this thread.

If the vlog is out, and especially in this case, posted in the thread, then its open season. Watch the vlog first then read.

What is the worst, would be someone spoiling boskis result after a tourney vlog part 1 bag&tag

To be fair to Trooper, he probably had got up early like 10am that day and already been awake and busy for at least 9 solid hours straight.

DasItMane,

Das It Mane, you're exiled from this thread. Posting here again will result in a ban.

Trooper lost again

was it the selfie in the locker room that gave it away?

We did the card thing at my local card room. It's silly and we stopped doing it. Best way when it comes to deals, bubble saves and chops is let the players discuss it among themselves the first no ends the discussion. If players attempt to badger or intimidate they are warned with a penalty etc.

As players get knocked out discussion can be brought back up.

As for the guy attacking Boski for not winning and asking the parallel of Tim. Give me a break. Actually I feel Tim would be open to most deals if he made the money but he doesn't play tourbaments so it's moot

the bottom line is negotiating deals in tournaments is a skill.
if some nerd pulls out his icm calculator begging for a chop i know i can milk him for a deal that favors me.the money means too much to him.
if you really don't care about the money you're at a huge advantage.

saves for the bubble are beyond pathetic.

The more I see Boski the more I realize how insane the variance in tournament poker must be. I've concluded he's a magnificent player.

The same is true for Johnny Vibes. He's world class and we're fortunate he makes a vlog to share info with us.

appears true to me, i wouldnt think many would have a downswing over a long period of time unless theyre not nearly as good at poker as they think they are. ive not have a losing month in a long time, and January 2019 is the worst month ive had in 2 years. i only had 1 losing month in the last 2 years. people saying they had a breakeven stretch of over 200 hours (a months worth of play?) to me thats a sign of a donkey player

the only thing is that in 1/2 you're often up against a ton of short stacks

It sounds to me like Boski made a good deal in terms of the money he got. Negotiating skill can be a big part of one's EV in tournament poker, and it sounds like he gained significant EV over ICM here. I don't think I've seen him make a bad deal on the vlog.

But I think if players make a deal, they should either play it out for the trophy and 1st place, or it should go to the chip leader.

"Hopefully we find a good game. That high hand action brings some good games here sometimes." - Trooper

Trooper arrives at the Venetian and makes his game immediately good. Oh the irony.

Negotiating skill?

All he did is say "No deal" until his opponents came up with an offer it should have taken Jeff 2 seconds to consider and accept.

He was second in chips, not close to the chip leader.
His ICM was ~$8K. Listed second place was $9331.
And they give him $10K (chip leader got $9,917).

Opponents probably were exhausted from playing 10 hours, were happy to book a nice win, and were convinced Jeff had a big skill advantage.

“big skill advantage” = Boski willing to shove/call lightish/correctly

regardless of perceived skill levels the other players didn’t want to flip for thousands (that’s how it’ll go with chips in play vs. blind size, doesn’t really matter who’s playing) and so they made a good enough offer to sway the holdout.

No.

Blinds didn't reach that until Level 6, after 2.5 hrs of play and at that point the average stack was 53BB.

whoops, edited.

my point still mostly stands though, there’s only 112BB total available in play at BB20k (2.25m chips total for 150 runners) so yeah playing 4-handed with <30BB it’s still gonna be flip city past that.